[cammie]

and he is the wronged party?!

Noirin said they were just friends for the moment, infact I remember her saying to siavash on a LF, that she wouldn't persue a relationship with him once they left the house if her ex was waiting for her after the show 'with a big bunch of roses'

she was honest and vocal throughout her time in the house. Siavash heard what he wanted to hear.

I like both of them and would like siavash to win but they are both to blame - all this Noirin hate is ridiculous.

people need to get off their high horses (both in and out of the house)

[tasha13]

I agree siavash has his own mind and he decided to persue this even though he had a girfriend..fair point!! He isnt going around calling noirin a bad person or even slaggin her off though, he just a bit hurt which is understandable i think.

Noirin did make it clear she wasnt sure what she wanted, however the way she has gone about this situation since isaac came in, is not very nice and i think that why alot of people are against noirin, me included!!

I agree about siavash knowing what he was getting into having a girlfriend etc

[NettoSuperstar!]

His best friend lmao

[muchadoaboutnothing]

I wasn't a particular fan of Norins until this morning when I saw all the hate towards her on here and other forums. You would think she killed a cow in India the way people are behaving. Siavash is a man spurned and can't handle it. I bet if Siavash's g/f went into the house instead of Issac it would be a different story. Norin to stay (simply because I hate all the Norin hate).

[ange7]

Originally posted by tasha13
I agree siavash has his own mind and he decided to persue this even though he had a girfriend..fair point!! He isnt going around calling noirin a bad person or even slaggin her off though, he just a bit hurt which is understandable i think.

Noirin did make it clear she wasnt sure what she wanted, however the way she has gone about this situation since isaac came in, is not very nice and i think that why alot of people are against noirin, me included!!

I agree about siavash knowing what he was getting into having a girlfriend etc

"Noirin did make it clear she wasnt sure what she wanted"
no ... when Siavash commited he thought she was in 100%... not just cuddles. He wouldn't have put it all on the line ( gf and Marcus) just for a maybe. He kept asking if they were on the same page...she said yeah. Once he commited she spilled the beans to all, showed him off like a trophy and said "nah... just cuddles thanks". She only made it clear AFTER he'd commited. He'd fallen for her, he was genuine.... it didn't mean sh*t to her.

[greysky]

I cant stand Noirin but I do think Siavash is more to blame than Noirin because he had a gf !!! I cant understand how people could put all the blames on Noirin for this but I wouldn't turn into her supporter just because of it ! Hope she goes on friday... to be honest I think Noirin has already won BB ... she got be BF back and she will no doubt make the most money once she's out of the house.

[cammie]

Originally posted by ange7

"Noirin did make it clear she wasnt sure what she wanted"
no ... when Siavash commited he thought she was in 100%... not just cuddles. He wouldn't have put it all on the line ( gf and Marcus) just for a maybe. He kept asking if they were on the same page...she said yeah. Once he commited she spilled the beans to all, showed him off like a trophy and said "nah... just cuddles thanks". She only made it clear AFTER he'd commited. He'd fallen for her, he was genuine.... it didn't mean sh*t to her.

I disagree

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by ange7

"Noirin did make it clear she wasnt sure what she wanted"
no ... when Siavash commited he thought she was in 100%... not just cuddles. He wouldn't have put it all on the line ( gf and Marcus) just for a maybe. He kept asking if they were on the same page...she said yeah. Once he commited she spilled the beans to all, showed him off like a trophy and said "nah... just cuddles thanks". She only made it clear AFTER he'd commited. He'd fallen for her, he was genuine.... it didn't mean sh*t to her.

Exactly he gave her opportunity to say she wasnt "on the same page" as him before he committed himself, then ****ed him over after the event!

[Tom]

In brief, its because shes the female party.

I think its hilarious that nothing at all is being said about Bea who is more manipulative than Noirin and openly shags about outside the house, and Freddie who keeps saying he wants to have sex with certain people in the house. Much worse has happened in that house than what Noirin has done, yet for some reason Noirin gets all the stick. She is getting the blame for men not taking no for an answer. It was the same over Kris getting a hand job under the covers from Sophie. It was her that got all the stick for it. But since the Noirin bandwagon that everyone has jumped on, when Sophie admitted they had sex in the house noone cared.

[ange7]

Originally posted by cammie

I disagree

lol ... first time at a forum? ... please elaborate :P

[NettoSuperstar!]

If anyone wants to shag around thats their business, but both parties need to know the score!

[MrsTIL]

Even when Norin made it clear he still gave her kisses and cuddles, he is as much to blame in this situation as her and i think a lot of people on here are taking a very immature view of things.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by MrsTIL
Even when Norin made it clear he still gave her kisses and cuddles, he is as much to blame in this situation as her and i think a lot of people on here are taking a very immature view of things.

becuase she didnt make it completely clear that she wouldnt normally touch him with a bargepole and was only playing him for airtime! She still said kept giving him hope that outside things may develop

[cammie]

Originally posted by ange7

lol ... first time at a forum? ... please elaborate :P

I apologize. what I meant to say is that: I disagree...with the above posters point

there ya go!

[tasha13]

What i meant by my earlier comment aboout noirin sayin where she stood is that she just wanted to see how things went and no make any plans! However i think that her letting siavash sleep in the same bed and kiss and cuddle all the time gives off a very different vibe. Siavash probably thought there was some chance otherwise norin wouldnt allow it all to happen.

Yeah she says she is still in love with her ex boyfriend, but isaac told her before she went in, if she kissed anyone he wouldnt take her back. Therefore noirin new exactly what she was doing when she was kissnig siavash, if you love someone and their is a chance you could get back together, would you really sacrifce it all for just a kiss and a cuddle? So no wonder poor siavash thought there was a chance

[ange7]

Originally posted by Tom
In brief, its because shes the female party.

I think its hilarious that nothing at all is being said about Bea who is more manipulative than Noirin and openly shags about outside the house, and Freddie who keeps saying he wants to have sex with certain people in the house. Much worse has happened in that house than what Noirin has done, yet for some reason Noirin gets all the stick. She is getting the blame for men not taking no for an answer. It was the same over Kris getting a hand job under the covers from Sophie. It was her that got all the stick for it. But since the Noirin bandwagon that everyone has jumped on, when Sophie admitted they had sex in the house noone cared.

" shes the female party"
this is worse than using the race card. Build an argument instead of going for the easy goal. Yeah women get a raw deal if they are sexually strong and liberal but it ain't a blank cheque and certainly doesn't apply in Noirin's case. She played Siavash for a storyline. He was committed and put it all on the line and thought she was 100% in. She got her trophy that she quickly showed off to Sophie and then went off him. This idea that Noirin is getting roasted just because she's the women is actually offensive to those like me who are NOT sexist misogynists but just happen to know a b**tch when they see one :P nom nom that!!

[Twiggy]

Originally posted by ange7

"Noirin did make it clear she wasnt sure what she wanted"
no ... when Siavash commited he thought she was in 100%... not just cuddles. He wouldn't have put it all on the line ( gf and Marcus) just for a maybe. He kept asking if they were on the same page...she said yeah. Once he commited she spilled the beans to all, showed him off like a trophy and said "nah... just cuddles thanks". She only made it clear AFTER he'd commited. He'd fallen for her, he was genuine.... it didn't mean sh*t to her.

Exactly! Her get out clause.

[ange7]

Originally posted by cammie

I apologize. what I meant to say is that: I disagree...with the above posters point

there ya go!

better!

[ange7]

Originally posted by MrsTIL
Even when Norin made it clear he still gave her kisses and cuddles, he is as much to blame in this situation as her and i think a lot of people on here are taking a very immature view of things.

his crime is that he loved too much ... hers.... too many :P

oops cricket is back on!

[preformat2000]

I don't think what Siavash did is counted as cheating since he has done it in BB's house. I think kissing Noirin more meant breaking up than cheating, cause when you are in BB house, you would know people are watching, so when you kiss another girl in the house, it means that you are aware that there is a good chance that your girlfriend outside the house will leave you, hence it is more of a break up than cheating.

[JustKaz]

Also you are forgetting, her 'confusion' over realising she actually did fancy Tom... If your not looking for a realationship, and your confused over your ex, why the hell did she add to it by getting confused over Siavash and Tome within two days?

Yes Siavash was in the wrong too, but at least he pondered/held back for 5 weeks or so before letting out how he felt, Thurs falling straight into her trap, when he was unaware the next day she wants Tom.

[cammie]

Originally posted by preformat2000
I don't think what Siavash did is counted as cheating since he has done it in BB's house. I think kissing Noirin more meant breaking up than cheating, cause when you are in BB house, you would know people are watching, so when you kiss another girl in the house, it means that you are aware that there is a good chance that your girlfriend outside the house will leave you, hence it is more of a break up than cheating.

nice logic.

(and sleeping with other people outside of a commited relationship doesn't count as cheating either - it is merely an indication that you would like meet new people and explore new places and maybe find a new form of self-expression)

[WOMBAI]

Originally posted by cammie
and he is the wronged party?!

Noirin said they were just friends for the moment, infact I remember her saying to siavash on a LF, that she wouldn't persue a relationship with him once they left the house if her ex was waiting for her after the show 'with a big bunch of roses'

she was honest and vocal throughout her time in the house. Siavash heard what he wanted to hear.

I like both of them and would like siavash to win but they are both to blame - all this Noirin hate is ridiculous.

people need to get off their high horses (both in and out of the house)

Best friend - get real!! Only known each other a few weeks! Apart from Noiren got bugger all in common!!

[bettiepage]

They are both ****ing idiots, and none deserve any sympathy or support.
Both have dug this hole and now have to live with it.

[cammie]

Originally posted by COMMONSENSE

Best friend - get real!! Only known each other a few weeks! Apart from Noiren got bugger all in common!!

he said that marcus was one of his best friends 'in the house'