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*mazedsalv** · 13-08-2009, 09:10 AM

I woke up from not being able to sleep at about 5am and i saw HMs up and they were all talking about a huge Bea and Marcus argument that happened at around 3am, what happened?

Niamh. · 13-08-2009, 09:11 AM

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Originally posted by *mazedsalv**
I woke up from not being able to sleep at about 5am and i saw HMs up and they were all talking about a huge Bea and Marcus argument that happened at around 3am, what happened?

Didn't see it but let me guess, Bea was giving out about "Negativity" .............just a shot in the dark

Appearance_Of_A_Junky · 13-08-2009, 09:13 AM

COPIED AND PASTED FROM THE THREAD 'DID I MISS ANYTHING'

man, you missed a lot.

Charlie and Bea were in the garden, Bea had stolen a can of Freddies cider and they were debating whether to drink it, (I think it was put back).

Charlie was then talking to Marcus about music (Guns N Roses, Iron Maiden from Marcus, and Girls Aloud from Charlie). I turned off as it was dull but then

(and thank god for +1)

Charlie and Marcus were together, Bea came over and started putting Freddie down, Marcus (always calm for the next half hour) told Bea that she was being negative by saying things about Freddie, she says she wasn't being negative. Looks for Charlie for support at times (this does last for about 30 mins). Marcus is saying that Bea will say something negative about Freddie and then ask others if they agree, thus spreading her negative thoughts onto others. She denys shes saying anything Negative, and then speaks about Freddie again. Marcus says that she's doing it again, she denys it, looks for support. When he keeps pointing out what she is doing she eventually (again, Marcus has been laid back and chatting through this) starts crying and goes to the DR saying that Marcus is bullying her. There was a noise (a laugh apparently) from the BR when Bea says 'if you can't take it don't give it out' and Charlie tells Freddie to go back to bed, at which point Bea enters DR and Freddie enters LR. Freddie and Charlie have a bit of a go, Charlie again shouts over Freddie, Marcus tells Freddie to go to bed, and not to get involved, Freddie does.

Bea then comes out and says that Marcus is being negative, Charlie says he doesn't want to hear anymore and that if they talk about it the next day (so today) he'll be angry. He seems to agree that Marcus isn't being spiteful in his approach. Bea still doesn't want to seem to accept it all and plays the victim a bit. Charlie tells Bea (away from Marcus) about what happened with Freddie (stirring in my view) and then has a chat with Marcus.

Marcus maintains his stance and uses examples to back himself up.

Bea and Charlie head to Bed, Freddie who hasn't managed to get to sleep (Dave snores so loudly if nothing else) gets up, has a chat with Marcus (and a quick run down of events) and then goes into the DR for a while, and then goes to bed.

These are my intereprations of the events, so how you chose to read them is up to you. Hopefully I haven't missed much out.

It was a good couple of hours of gripping TV

any questions??

PART TWO

I left a lot out as well (was partially convinced someone would beat me to it and me effort would be in vain.

To describe the way they were during the 30min main chat. I would say Marcus was in a relaxed position, never raising his voice, the only time he did was when she was trying to go into the DR so was on the other side of the room, but Marcus still wasn't shouting. Marcus was finding some of the things Bea was saying funny, mostly how she said she wasn't negative and then straight away say that Freddie is........ Marcus would laugh because she did it straight away. I would say she had the air of someone that knew there are in the right, even if they're not, and seemed very confident, but when Marcus would point things out she would trip herself up at times and get annoyed and raised her voice, not shouting, but not normal voice either. Marcus always said that he was saying these things not in a malicious way, just matter of factly.

Charlie was rarely shown, as he was just a bystander. At one point Marcus asked him a question about the conversation and he looked lost, pulled a silly grin and said an obvious statement kinda ignoring the question Marcus was asking. Even though later on he seemed to have the mannerisms of someone that had followed the entire conversation.

Bea looked indignant but then rattled, she looked really unattractive when she was crying (bulldog chewing a wasp comes to mind) but naturally its hardly the best time to be seen when upset. I think she was upset but she still seemed to feel that she was being victimised, which I still think she will be today.

Charlie said he wanted last night to not be mentioned again, Marcus agreed to it, but did point out to Charlie that reckons Bea will start talking about it.

Part of the conversation (the latter part) was Marcus saying that if Bea walks into a room and hears her name she will walk out and go to others and say 'that they are talking about me in there'. Whereas someone like Charlie will ask what they're talking about (he used an example when Charlie came in on him and Sophie, and he asked, and they were apparently talking about who was going to win). Saying that Bea won't ask and just assume. He also mentioned that when they three of them were in the DR (Fred/Sia/Mar) and got into trouble with BB that Bea was saying what happened in the DR even though she wasn't there, Charlie said others have been saying things, and Marcus pointed out that it still stemmed from Bea.

Again, there is just so much of what happened. Hope I filled in some more gaps. Anyone out there have any disagreements with what I wrote?

*mazedsalv** · 13-08-2009, 09:13 AM

Apparently Marcus was putting her right in her place, calling her pathetic and laughing while she was arguing with him, im reading up on DS and it sounds like it was brilliant BB gold.

Appearance_Of_A_Junky · 13-08-2009, 09:13 AM

Oh, I wrote that in the other thread by the way, so they are my words

Kazanne · 13-08-2009, 09:14 AM

Woo,Woo way to go Marcus

ElProximo · 13-08-2009, 09:23 AM

I'd have to see it but it does remind me of yesterday when (and I can't write this without laughing) but she wakes up
.. "I'm gonna be positive"
sits down for a smoke
"Im being positive..."
2 seconds go by
"You know Freddy this.. and someone said I was Negative and they.. and I didn't say THAT... and FuKK All.. and they said .. and I am sick and tired.. and you said..."
WTF?
Its wild! I'm telling you she is walking and talking duplicity and I mean she can actually (seemingly believing it) say say one thing and in the next breath be ripping somone.. in the next breath be offended.. in the next breath claim to be attacked.. in the next breath attack..
..... Bea is some sort of Big Brother Death Machine lol!
Bealzulbub is right :O

Niamh. · 13-08-2009, 09:26 AM

It's just a shame that the only one who'll stand up to her and doesn't let her confuse them in arguments is going to be gone tomorrow. She's going to completlely take over the house once Marcus goes

Thanks for the run-down btw

Niamh. · 13-08-2009, 09:28 AM

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Originally posted by ElProximo
I'd have to see it but it does remind me of yesterday when (and I can't write this without laughing) but she wakes up
.. "I'm gonna be positive"
sits down for a smoke
"Im being positive..."
2 seconds go by
"You know Freddy this.. and someone said I was Negative and they.. and I didn't say THAT... and FuKK All.. and they said .. and I am sick and tired.. and you said..."
WTF?
Its wild! I'm telling you she is walking and talking duplicity and I mean she can actually (seemingly believing it) say say one thing and in the next breath be ripping somone.. in the next breath be offended.. in the next breath claim to be attacked.. in the next breath attack..
..... Bea is some sort of Big Brother Death Machine lol!
Bealzulbub is right :O

I feel ill when I watch her now, I'm starting to get panic attacks when I hear her talking aaaahhhhhh!!!! I can't endure this much longer

Appearance_Of_A_Junky · 13-08-2009, 09:32 AM

With Bea I feel its a 'Can't see the forest for all the trees' sort of scenario, so convinced in herself of whats happening that she isn't seeing everything. Blinkered by her own thoughts

minx36 · 13-08-2009, 09:33 AM

The chanting of "I'm gonna be positive! I'm gonna be positive!" yesterday will be a lesson she learnt from her group therepy in the 'Nut House'!

Appearance_Of_A_Junky · 13-08-2009, 09:57 AM

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Originally posted by minx36
The chanting of "I'm gonna be positive! I'm gonna be positive!" yesterday will be a lesson she learnt from her group therepy in the 'Nut House'!

She should have paid attention in class