[karezza]

Marcus the Wise said Siavash is a bullsh*tter.

Has the Irrespressible Dark Horse got this one wrong?

[WAYNEEBRUM]

I think we must not be seeing alot of what Siavash does because both Marcus and Charlie mentioned him.I think Siavash goes between both sides trying to stay sweet with them but Marcus has picked up on it.
When you think about it,why does Siavash seem to get off scott free when the trio do things that got the group up etc

[ElProximo]

Marcy the Irresponsible Titmouse is just being his usual self - claim one thing and do another.
Claims he doesn't go around talking behind peoples backs, claims he doesn't go around saying negative things about his friends,
but,
Had absolutely no problem trashing Siavash for everything it was worth and gossiping about Siavash and trashing Siavash behind his back like the hypocritical little sneak that is Marcus.

Mind you.. he didn't have a problem gossiping and badmouthing other people TO Siavash when Siavash would listen lol

The DorkHorse does it again.

[jegmeister]

I've been a bit of an odd one out amongst Freddie fans - I have really disliked Siavash. The guy flits from group to group, because of him Lisa is still in there (his infamous nomination of Noirin meaning she wasn't up one week), his accusation to Tom about the drink and cheating on his girlfriend on National TV.

However, his support for Freddie and telling Bea a few home truths a couple of nights ago caught my attention. If he keeps opposing Bea and doing so with consistency and determination, he will start to get my support.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally posted by jegmeister
I've been a bit of an odd one out amongst Freddie fans - I have really disliked Siavash. The guy flits from group to group, because of him Lisa is still in there (his infamous nomination of Noirin meaning she wasn't up one week), his accusation to Tom about the drink and cheating on his girlfriend on National TV.

However, his support for Freddie and telling Bea a few home truths a couple of nights ago caught my attention. If he keeps opposing Bea and doing so with consistency and determination, he will start to get my support.

You see, I don't see whats wrong with being able to get on with both groups?? Why would someone NOT want to get on with everyone if they could, It's not a war (eventhough it seems like it sometimes!) He doesn't have to "pick a side" and whats wrong with him apologiseing for getting the food taken, that to me was the best thing to do, he got everyone punished so why wouldn't he say sorry to them???

[dbfs]

Siavash is one of the favs to win because he is maybe the best of a bad bunch. But he does flit from group to group and he was as much a part of Freddie and Marcus antics the other day yet came through yet again totally unscathed, he is not as sweet and innocenet as he likes people to believe and this is what Marcus was trying to point out to him the other day that he is not being true to what he is saying to them - basically saying what people want to hear.

[reallynow]

siavash is a bullshiter, he is indeed!

when he told a tipsy Noirin about the bunny rabbit comments he made up, you can see how sneaky he is and works his plan!

He is like a creep in some way!

[camaleon]

Siavash has a likeable personality so even when he does things wrong people let him to go away with it.
When he acussed Tom of the drink I didn't think it was planned but a jealousy instict because of Norin....

[reallynow]

Originally posted by camaleon
Siavash has a likeable personality so even when he does things wrong people let him to go away with it.
When he acussed Tom of the drink I didn't think it was planned but a jealousy instict because of Norin....

Precisely, he exacts all his cuntish moves in a very cunning way and gets away with it totally!

He also moved on a tipsy Noirin when marcus was in jail!

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally posted by reallynow

Precisely, he exacts all his cuntish moves in a very cunning way and gets away with it totally!

He also moved on a tipsy Noirin when marcus was in jail!

Just to remind you Noirin wasn't marcus G/F !!!

[reallynow]

Originally posted by Niamhxo

Just to remind you Noirin wasn't marcus G/F !!!

Just reminding you Siavash had a G/F outside, and siavsh was meant to be Marcus's friend!

[tintedshadow]

Originally posted by WAYNEEBRUM
I think we must not be seeing alot of what Siavash does because both Marcus and Charlie mentioned him.I think Siavash goes between both sides trying to stay sweet with them but Marcus has picked up on it.
When you think about it,why does Siavash seem to get off scott free when the trio do things that got the group up etc

charlie also reckons bea is a positive person so that pretty much sums up the substance of anything that comes from his mouth..

as for marcus,i can see why he thinks low of siavash,however siavash is probably the only one (maybe with the exception of sophie and maybe david) who is trust worthy,and genuinely doesnt seem to be that much of a bad seed.. i do think even if marcus see's the truth when he gets out,he wont be hanging around with the likes of the vash..

[ChristmasNeeve]

Just to remind you Noirin wasn't marcus G/F !!! [/quote]

Just reminding you Siavash had a G/F outside, and siavsh was meant to be Marcus's friend! [/quote]

I was just referring to the "while Marcus was in Jail" bit, yes Siavash had a G/F so that was wrong but Marcus, whether he was his friend or not had no claim over Noirin, they hadn't, weren't and never would be a couple!

[reallynow]

Originally posted by Niamhxo
Just to remind you Noirin wasn't marcus G/F !!!

Just reminding you Siavash had a G/F outside, and siavsh was meant to be Marcus's friend! [/quote]

I was just referring to the "while Marcus was in Jail" bit, yes Siavash had a G/F so that was wrong but Marcus, whether he was his friend or not had no claim over Noirin, they hadn't, weren't and never would be a couple! [/quote]

Marcus (who isnt any better himself...dont get me wrong on that one at all) just recognises siavash as the bullshitter he is..and siavash is one, you cannot deny that!

[ChristmasNeeve]

I was just referring to the "while Marcus was in Jail" bit, yes Siavash had a G/F so that was wrong but Marcus, whether he was his friend or not had no claim over Noirin, they hadn't, weren't and never would be a couple! [/quote]

Marcus (who isnt any better himself...dont get me wrong on that one at all) just recognises siavash as the bullshitter he is..and siavash is one, you cannot deny that! [/quote]

Well, there's none of us perfect LOL!! Who's not guilty of a little bit of BS every now an again, He's a nice guy but he's not perfect but compared to most of the others in there he comes pretty close

[ange7]

Originally posted by reallynow

Precisely, he exacts all his cuntish moves in a very cunning way and gets away with it totally!

He also moved on a tipsy Noirin when marcus was in jail!

You missed that Noirin said she manipulated Siavash to get what she wanted while she was on that bbbm interview.

[bananarama]

Siavash is a wast of space has been from day one......If he ever wins it will be the biggest moral disaster in the history of BB.

Likeable on the surface yes..Underneath he is treacherous....Quitly floats along causing some mahem with his lies and imagination of other peoples guilt and having started a problem then goes quiet until he feels he needs some air time

Skunk is to kind a description......

[ange7]

Originally posted by bananarama
Siavash is a wast of space has been from day one......If he ever wins it will be the biggest moral disaster in the history of BB.

Likeable on the surface yes..Underneath he is treacherous....Quitly floats along causing some mahem with his lies and imagination of other peoples guilt and having started a problem then goes quiet until he feels he needs some air time

Skunk is to kind a description......

what lies bananaguy?

[BB_Eye]

I'm not sure it's such a good idea for him to divide Freddie and Siavash at this point.

On the other hand, if Freddie carries on being seen as the lone outsider... he could win it so maybe Marcus is doing him a favour.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Marcus is a plotter and knows Siavash is competition thats all

[bananarama]

Originally posted by ange7

what lies bananaguy?

Please have an opinion that is different to mine and I will respect that........Do not call me a liar as that I am not.......If you see things from a different and deluded perspective then that is your problem.....

[ange7]

Originally posted by bananarama

Please have an opinion that is different to mine and I will respect that........Do not call me a liar as that I am not.......If you see things from a different and deluded perspective then that is your problem.....

gawwwwwwwwd nah dude I mean what lies by Siavash are you talking about?
I asked
"what lies bananaguy?" NOT
"what lies bananaguy!"

[bananarama]

Originally posted by ange7

gawwwwwwwwd nah dude I mean what lies by Siavash are
you talking about?
I asked


"what lies bananaguy?" NOT
"what lies bananaguy!"

Ok. If i misunderstood fair enough. The lies you ask about.....The rabbit gate incident.......Siavash saw dogface making a rabbit like gesture of which she was refering to makus. Siavash imagined what it meant and told the lie obout Noirin being called a rabbit....Lie one.......

A drink went missing and he accused Tom......Once again he got it wrong......He imagines something and inspite of not actually knowing he turns it into a lie and all the consequences that follow.

Noirin gone so he thinks to himself how can I get air time.i know I will refuse to nominate.......regardless of the flack and consequences on other house mates........He also lied about the rest of the house not being up for nomination because of his refusing to nominate.......Then when the truth came out from BB he wriggled out of the lie by saying he thought he would be in trouble with BB if he told every one.....

Siavash is a lieing toad of huge proportions........The git needs to go ASAP.....

[reallynow]

Originally posted by bananarama

Ok. If i misunderstood fair enough. The lies you ask about.....The rabbit gate incident.......Siavash saw dogface making a rabbit like gesture of which she was refering to makus. Siavash imagined what it meant and told the lie obout Noirin being called a rabbit....Lie one.......

A drink went missing and he accused Tom......Once again he got it wrong......He imagines something and inspite of not actually knowing he turns it into a lie and all the consequences that follow.

Noirin gone so he thinks to himself how can I get air time.i know I will refuse to nominate.......regardless of the flack and consequences on other house mates........He also lied about the rest of the house not being up for nomination because of his refusing to nominate.......Then when the truth came out from BB he wriggled out of the lie by saying he thought he would be in trouble with BB if he told every one.....

Siavash is a lieing toad of huge proportions........The git needs to go ASAP.....

I amy have got his nominations wrong, but I agree with this one, siavash isnt a bad person or vindictive, but he is certainly a creep!

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by bananarama

Ok. If i misunderstood fair enough. The lies you ask about.....The rabbit gate incident.......Siavash saw dogface making a rabbit like gesture of which she was refering to makus. Siavash imagined what it meant and told the lie obout Noirin being called a rabbit....Lie one.......

A drink went missing and he accused Tom......Once again he got it wrong......He imagines something and inspite of not actually knowing he turns it into a lie and all the consequences that follow.

Noirin gone so he thinks to himself how can I get air time.i know I will refuse to nominate.......regardless of the flack and consequences on other house mates........He also lied about the rest of the house not being up for nomination because of his refusing to nominate.......Then when the truth came out from BB he wriggled out of the lie by saying he thought he would be in trouble with BB if he told every one.....

Siavash is a lieing toad of huge proportions........The git needs to go ASAP.....

none of the above are lies. Siavash believed the first two to be true, he may have misinterpreted events etc but that is not in itself a lie. It is a misinterpretation.

Thats your assumption for why he put himself up and cant be considered lying at all