[Sticks]

Channel 4 are contractually obligated to do BB11, but as they have decided to drop Big Brother, is there a way they could pay Endemol off and not do BB11?

I was wondering if there are any C4 execs wondering about that possibility

[Kate!]

this is not funny

[Tom]

It would cost more than its worth. They might as well go ahead with a series they've already paid for rather than waste £60m, then pay off a contract with money they don't have, then commission another 93 hours worth of programming starting in 9 months time

[Brekkie]

It's obvious there is no get out clause because they would have used it if their was.

It won't happen now, but the only way I could have seen out of it is if C4 still agreed to pay Endemol £60m for content that wasn't Big Brother, which actually could have benefited Endemol too.

Personally I think Endemol might have been wise to try and renegotiate the contract so rather than £60m for one series and one celeb series, C4 paid £60m over two years for just two regular summer series, cut down to around 10-11 weeks each - with Endemol committed to revamping the show.

That would bring in BB cheaper for C4, and could have worked out for Endemol too by giving the show a fighting chance of finding it's feet again, which I'm sure with MAJOR - and I mean MAJOR - change it could have done.

[Kate!]

[rquote=2513430&tid=145024&author=Brekkie]It's obvious there is no get out clause because they would have used it if their was.

It won't happen now, but the only way I could have seen out of it is if C4 still agreed to pay Endemol £60m for content that wasn't Big Brother, which actually could have benefited Endemol too.

Personally I think Endemol might have been wise to try and renegotiate the contract so rather than £60m for one series and one celeb series, C4 paid £60m over two years for just two regular summer series, cut down to around 10-11 weeks each - with Endemol committed to revamping the show.

That would bring in BB cheaper for C4, and could have worked out for Endemol too by giving the show a fighting chance of finding it's feet again, which I'm sure with MAJOR - and I mean MAJOR - change it could have done.[/rquote]

my god, a PERSON WHO TALKS SENSE! BB producers take heed,why the hell didn't u come up with this solution, and the show wouldn't have gone down the tubes, all us fans are gutted, n summer ain't summer without bb.cmon,its not too late.

[Tom]

[rquote=2513430&tid=145024&author=Brekkie]It's obvious there is no get out clause because they would have used it if their was.

It won't happen now, but the only way I could have seen out of it is if C4 still agreed to pay Endemol £60m for content that wasn't Big Brother, which actually could have benefited Endemol too.

Personally I think Endemol might have been wise to try and renegotiate the contract so rather than £60m for one series and one celeb series, C4 paid £60m over two years for just two regular summer series, cut down to around 10-11 weeks each - with Endemol committed to revamping the show.

That would bring in BB cheaper for C4, and could have worked out for Endemol too by giving the show a fighting chance of finding it's feet again, which I'm sure with MAJOR - and I mean MAJOR - change it could have done.[/rquote]

How would 2 11 week series' at £60m be cheaper than 3 summer series' and January series' at £180 altogether?

[Brekkie]

[rquote=2515445&tid=145024&author=Tom]
How would 2 11 week series' at £60m be cheaper than 3 summer series' and January series' at £180 altogether? [/rquote]
First I'll mock your schoolboy error by saying obviously not.

Secondly, two series for £60m rather than three series plus extras for £180m is obviously cheaper. C4 would pay out £30m a year rather than £60m. They lose Celeb BB and a couple of weeks off the main show, but everyone agrees the main show would benefit from that.


Right back to the original question and considering this year BB cost £60m and bought in just £32m in ad revenue, there is an argument that C4 paying Endemol £30m not to have BB11 might have been value for money.