[InOne]

What do the Irish think of them? I know the Yanks are Irish mad and consider themselves Irish no matter how far back. The English are quite big on it too. What do you consider to be Irish?

[arsenalforever]

if your parents Irish and you want to be irish then cool

[InOne]

[rquote=2631429&tid=148641&author=arsenalforever]if your parents Irish and you want to be irish then cool
[/rquote]

What about Grandparents?

[Niamh.]

English Plastic paddys are better than American ones

[InOne]

[rquote=2631434&tid=148641&author=Niamhxo]English Plastic paddys are better than American ones[/rquote]


Well I think the English and Irish can relate better, most English ones will have actually been, whereas the yanks only see the nice green bits on postcards and like to drink Guinness ect

[setanta]

It's an interesting question because on my mother's side we're the only ones left in the country, with all our relations having gone to America. We visit them quite a bit and I always question them on their feelings regarding nationality and the like. Most are inordinately proud of the fact that they have Irish blood in their veins but they're cognizant of the fact that where you are raised has more of an impact on who you are and what you believe in. I suppose it's a state of mind really but enviromental factors play a pivotal role in who you are.... I think so anyway.

[InOne]

[rquote=2631441&tid=148641&author=setanta]It's an interesting question because on my mother's side we're the only ones left in the country, with all our relations having gone to America. We visit them quite a bit and I always question them on their feelings towards nationality and the like. Most are inordinately proud of the fact that they have Irish blood in their veins but they're cognizant of the fact that where you are raised has more of an impact on who you are and what you believe in. I suppose it's a state of mind really but enviromental factors play a pivotal role in who you are.... I think so anyway.[/rquote]

Yeah I know of Family of decent in America, god knows what they think of Ireland or anything though lol

[Niamh.]

[rquote=2631439&tid=148641&author=InOne][rquote=2631434&tid=148641&author=Niamhxo]English Plastic paddys are better than American ones[/rquote]


Well I think the English and Irish can relate better, most English ones will have actually been, whereas the yanks only see the nice green bits on postcards and like to drink Guinness ect[/rquote]

Yeah, definately, ye would be very similar to us where as the yanks are worlds apart!

[InOne]

[rquote=2631446&tid=148641&author=Niamhxo][rquote=2631439&tid=148641&author=InOne][rquote=2631434&tid=148641&author=Niamhxo]English Plastic paddys are better than American ones[/rquote]


Well I think the English and Irish can relate better, most English ones will have actually been, whereas the yanks only see the nice green bits on postcards and like to drink Guinness ect[/rquote]

Yeah, definately, ye would be very similar to us where as the yanks are worlds apart![/rquote]

Plus the yanks big booming accents really annoy me!

[arsenalforever]

[rquote=2631432&tid=148641&author=InOne][rquote=2631429&tid=148641&author=arsenalforever]if your parents Irish and you want to be irish then cool
[/rquote]

What about Grandparents?[/rquote]

nah your amercian or english

[Niamh.]

[rquote=2631448&tid=148641&author=InOne][rquote=2631446&tid=148641&author=Niamhxo][rquote=2631439&tid=148641&author=InOne][rquote=2631434&tid=148641&author=Niamhxo]English Plastic paddys are better than American ones[/rquote]


Well I think the English and Irish can relate better, most English ones will have actually been, whereas the yanks only see the nice green bits on postcards and like to drink Guinness ect[/rquote]

Yeah, definately, ye would be very similar to us where as the yanks are worlds apart![/rquote]

Plus the yanks big booming accents really annoy me![/rquote]

Yeah, me too!

[setanta]

[rquote=2631443&tid=148641&author=InOne][rquote=2631441&tid=148641&author=setanta]It's an interesting question because on my mother's side we're the only ones left in the country, with all our relations having gone to America. We visit them quite a bit and I always question them on their feelings towards nationality and the like. Most are inordinately proud of the fact that they have Irish blood in their veins but they're cognizant of the fact that where you are raised has more of an impact on who you are and what you believe in. I suppose it's a state of mind really but enviromental factors play a pivotal role in who you are.... I think so anyway.[/rquote]

Yeah I know of Family of decent in America, god knows what they think of Ireland or anything though lol[/rquote]

I go over to them every other Xmas or summer and, although I have fun with them and enjoy my time throughout, I have much more in common with my uncles then I do my american cousins. We just have much more of a common ground - just in our way of thinking and how we approach life. Totally different to how the Americans engage in life..... my uncles actually love me going over cuz at least they have somebody to waffle to then!

[InOne]

[rquote=2631456&tid=148641&author=setanta][rquote=2631443&tid=148641&author=InOne][rquote=2631441&tid=148641&author=setanta]It's an interesting question because on my mother's side we're the only ones left in the country, with all our relations having gone to America. We visit them quite a bit and I always question them on their feelings towards nationality and the like. Most are inordinately proud of the fact that they have Irish blood in their veins but they're cognizant of the fact that where you are raised has more of an impact on who you are and what you believe in. I suppose it's a state of mind really but enviromental factors play a pivotal role in who you are.... I think so anyway.[/rquote]

Yeah I know of Family of decent in America, god knows what they think of Ireland or anything though lol[/rquote]

I go over to them every other Xmas or summer and, although I have fun with them and enjoy my time throughout, I have much more in common with my uncles then I do my american cousins. We just have much more of a common ground - just in our way of thinking and how we approach life. Totally different to how the Americans engage in life..... my uncles actually love me going over cuz at least they have somebody to waffle to then![/rquote]

Yeah never been over but I could imagine it to be totally different. Irish-American is basically it's own culture.

[InOne]

[rquote=2631449&tid=148641&author=arsenalforever][rquote=2631432&tid=148641&author=InOne][rquote=2631429&tid=148641&author=arsenalforever]if your parents Irish and you want to be irish then cool
[/rquote]

What about Grandparents?[/rquote]

nah your amercian or english[/rquote]

Or anything else, there is Irish everywhere!!! lol

[arsenalforever]

For me. if your parents are Irish then your Irish but if its Grandfolks or uncles or aunts

sorry but i hate all these show like who do you think you are?
actors searching for their irish blood

[setanta]

[rquote=2631459&tid=148641&author=InOne][rquote=2631456&tid=148641&author=setanta][rquote=2631443&tid=148641&author=InOne][rquote=2631441&tid=148641&author=setanta]It's an interesting question because on my mother's side we're the only ones left in the country, with all our relations having gone to America. We visit them quite a bit and I always question them on their feelings towards nationality and the like. Most are inordinately proud of the fact that they have Irish blood in their veins but they're cognizant of the fact that where you are raised has more of an impact on who you are and what you believe in. I suppose it's a state of mind really but enviromental factors play a pivotal role in who you are.... I think so anyway.[/rquote]

Yeah I know of Family of decent in America, god knows what they think of Ireland or anything though lol[/rquote]

I go over to them every other Xmas or summer and, although I have fun with them and enjoy my time throughout, I have much more in common with my uncles then I do my american cousins. We just have much more of a common ground - just in our way of thinking and how we approach life. Totally different to how the Americans engage in life..... my uncles actually love me going over cuz at least they have somebody to waffle to then![/rquote]

Yeah never been over but I could imagine it to be totally different. Irish-American is basically it's own culture.[/rquote]

It depends again on enviroment and I would think that in places like Boston, where theres a huge amount of ex pats living in close proximity to one another, there would be more chance of finding people who resemble our way of thinking more closely.

But my cousins aren't in that kinda enviroment so they've been absorbed into the American way of life more easily, you kno?

[lime]

lol I am a plastic paddy.

I am living and working in Ireland 10 yrs next month.
I now speak with an Irish accent have a wee bit of Gaeilge.

My sons 13,16,17 all speak Irish and youngest plays football for local GAA.

Youngest (4) just started school and is already talking Irish ,loves her muinteoir.

A couple of years ago all of above may have been considered Irish but these days to be considered Irish you need to be able to talk about Lisbon,NAMA and most certainly worry about Lenihan's next budget.


but still I am proud to be a paddy ,even if its just a plastic one

[Niamh.]

[rquote=2631474&tid=148641&author=lime]lol I am a plastic paddy.

I am living and working in Ireland 10 yrs next month.
I now speak with an Irish accent have a wee bit of Gaeilge.

My sons 13,16,17 all speak Irish and youngest plays football for local GAA.

Youngest (4) just started school and is already talking Irish ,loves her muinteoir.

A couple of years ago all of above may have been considered Irish but these days to be considered Irish you need to be able to talk about Lisbon,NAMA and most certainly worry about Lenihan's next budget.


but still I am proud to be a paddy ,even if its just a plastic one[/rquote]

lol, we accept you after 10 years lol!!!

[arsenalforever]

i'm a dubliner first and irish second

[InOne]

[rquote=2631468&tid=148641&author=setanta][rquote=2631459&tid=148641&author=InOne][rquote=2631456&tid=148641&author=setanta][rquote=2631443&tid=148641&author=InOne][rquote=2631441&tid=148641&author=setanta]It's an interesting question because on my mother's side we're the only ones left in the country, with all our relations having gone to America. We visit them quite a bit and I always question them on their feelings towards nationality and the like. Most are inordinately proud of the fact that they have Irish blood in their veins but they're cognizant of the fact that where you are raised has more of an impact on who you are and what you believe in. I suppose it's a state of mind really but enviromental factors play a pivotal role in who you are.... I think so anyway.[/rquote]

Yeah I know of Family of decent in America, god knows what they think of Ireland or anything though lol[/rquote]

I go over to them every other Xmas or summer and, although I have fun with them and enjoy my time throughout, I have much more in common with my uncles then I do my american cousins. We just have much more of a common ground - just in our way of thinking and how we approach life. Totally different to how the Americans engage in life..... my uncles actually love me going over cuz at least they have somebody to waffle to then![/rquote]

Yeah never been over but I could imagine it to be totally different. Irish-American is basically it's own culture.[/rquote]

It depends again on enviroment and I would think that in places like Boston, where theres a huge amount of ex pats living in close proximity to one another, there would be more chance of finding people who resemble our way of thinking more closely.

But my cousins aren't in that kinda enviroment so they've been absorbed into the American way of life more easily, you kno? [/rquote]


Yeah I know Boston has a strong Irish connection. I used to think New York did but I guess cos it's so big and they were so spread out it kinda lost it. Like I don't think Hells Kitchen even exists anymore.

[Niamh.]

[rquote=2631481&tid=148641&author=arsenalforever]i'm a dubliner first and irish second[/rquote]

LOL, I'm from "The Peoples Republic Of Cork" !!

[setanta]

Boston is the place I want to vist most in some ways. I'd say you'd have a mad laugh there.

[InOne]

[rquote=2631481&tid=148641&author=arsenalforever]i'm a dubliner first and irish second[/rquote]

I like the fact in Dublin that in every pub there is like 4 old guys in the corner who just randomly burst into song lol

[InOne]

[rquote=2631489&tid=148641&author=setanta]Boston is the place I want to vist most in some ways. I'd say you'd have a mad laugh there. [/rquote]

Would like to go to Boston and New York really. I like the inner city areas haha

[arsenalforever]

[rquote=2631490&tid=148641&author=InOne][rquote=2631481&tid=148641&author=arsenalforever]i'm a dubliner first and irish second[/rquote]

I like the fact in Dublin that in every pub there is like 4 old guys in the corner who just randomly burst into song lol[/rquote]

no mate thats when they bring tourists

i tell you what a real irish bar is like

drinking and fighting