[BrooklynFan]

After watching many seasons of BBUK and listening to all the complaints about the format, I recently got into BBUS. I have to say I'm stunned at the difference. There are things I like about both formats. I have to say that BBUk can learn so much from BBUS. look how popular BBUS is. they hardly ever have walkouts or ejections. Whoever joins, stays. Everyone is determined to win the game. Everyone plays their hardest in the tasks. The ratings are through the roof. They are not in danger of cancellation. What can BBUK learn from BBUS?

here are the list of things I like a lot more on BBUs than BBUK, which BBUK should really incorporate:

• The House. The house is not gimmicky. It's spacious, it's beautiful, it's comfortable. The yard is huge. People are allowed to read. HoHs are allowed music. The people don't feel like theyre going off their mind, because the house isn't claustrophic. It's pretty. There are several bedrooms. There is privacy. It's not gimmicky. It's not designed to deprive the housemates or make them feel like theyre losing it. You never see people crying int he diary room and wanting to bail. They LIKE being there. they WANT to win. BBUK would do much better if they made the house spacious, airy, and cozy, with lots of room to air out and hang out in.
• The tasks. The tasks are AMAZING. well thought out, well planned out. again, not gimmicky. The yard is spacious, the tasks are beautifully set up and presented. Everyone wants to play. Everyone tries their best to win. Since they have 3 tasks a week- HoH, PoV, and food, there is a lot to look forward to. I love watching the tasks.
• No overkill. There are only 3 highlight shows a week, and it focuses on the gameplay and not the petty arguments. There is no overkill. There arent 1000 of spinoff shows. Having a nightly highlight show in which they have to force a story, is what kills BBUK.
• All the housemates are normal. While there is always the token gay guy, minority housemate, middle aged housemate, or wahtever, the housemate are by and large a pleasure to watch. Theyre determined to enjoy themselves and win.
• No halfway housemates, and a shortened time period. 14 housemates, 9 weeks, and that's it. whoever is in, plays. We dont need to shake up the formate in the middle with new housemates. we dont need a halfway house, golden ticket holder, girlfriend coming in midway through.
• IT'S OKAY TO HAVE A GAMEPLAN AND IT'S OKAY TO WANT TO WIN. No, I dont like the format of the housemates voting each other out, and I enjoy the british verson of the game, it's not a crime to want to win this game and to try to figure out how to win this game!

In short, Endemol UK should really overhaul the format by providing a nicer house, better tasks, and better housemated. not the overgimmicked, over twisted, over crazied version they currently have. They shoudl take some pages out of Endemol US's book and spice up the format. Just my 2 cents.

Your 2 pence are welcome!!!

[Brekkie]

Such lessons should have been learnt years ago. The hybrid format in Brazil - which has the HoH but tweaks the format to keep the public vote (basically HoH nominates one, other HMs nominate one, viewers evict) is the most successful BB in the world and now in it's 10th series broke the world record for most votes cast in the final this year - somewhere close to 150m.


If I were to resurrect BB a few years down the line I would be basing it on the US format, and I wouldn't have it on air daily. I'd have the food comp and nominations airing on Sunday nights, the Veto comp and meeting on Tuesday nights, a further comp (either for luxuries or building the jackpot) and eviction build up on Thursday night with the live show, including eviction and the HoH challenge live on Friday nights.

E4 could still have it's spin-offs, but I think I'd just have a weekly "Big Eye" show on Sundays (on T4 and E4), and then "Eviction Eye" on Fridays before an after the eviction. E4's other output would be limited to a block of live streaming every night from around 11pm-2am, with 24/7 streaming at least available on E4.com, if not also back on the red button.


That is another thing the US do right - the live streaming - they're one of the few versions to still offer multiple camera feeds, and a couple of years ago introduced a fairly innovative "flashback" feature where you could put in a time and date and go back and watch the live action from that point. You have to pay for it, but better to have the option to pay than no option at all.


And back to talking about the live shows - other than the launch show ours have been pretty poor for years. The evictions have long been a highlights show with an interview tagged on the end, whilst the final lost it's feeling of being anything special after BB3.

Other countries all realised that the eviction itself wasn't enough to pull viewers in to the weekly live shows and week after week would offer something else to entice viewers too, whether a weekly competition like the HoH comp in the US, or random twists from week to week such as tasks, new arrivals and other surprises.

[iRyan]

Such lessons should have been learnt years ago. The hybrid format in Brazil - which has the HoH but tweaks the format to keep the public vote (basically HoH nominates one, other HMs nominate one, viewers evict) is the most successful BB in the world and now in it's 10th series broke the world record for most votes cast in the final this year - somewhere close to 150m.

Wow, I never knew that. I love that idea. Both BBUS and BBUK should use it.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by BrooklynFan

After watching many seasons of BBUK and listening to all the complaints about the format, I recently got into BBUS. I have to say I'm stunned at the difference. There are things I like about both formats. I have to say that BBUk can learn so much from BBUS. look how popular BBUS is. they hardly ever have walkouts or ejections. Whoever joins, stays. Everyone is determined to win the game. Everyone plays their hardest in the tasks. The ratings are through the roof. They are not in danger of cancellation. What can BBUK learn from BBUS?

here are the list of things I like a lot more on BBUs than BBUK, which BBUK should really incorporate:

• The House. The house is not gimmicky. It's spacious, it's beautiful, it's comfortable. The yard is huge. People are allowed to read. HoHs are allowed music. The people don't feel like theyre going off their mind, because the house isn't claustrophic. It's pretty. There are several bedrooms. There is privacy. It's not gimmicky. It's not designed to deprive the housemates or make them feel like theyre losing it. You never see people crying int he diary room and wanting to bail. They LIKE being there. they WANT to win. BBUK would do much better if they made the house spacious, airy, and cozy, with lots of room to air out and hang out in.
• The tasks. The tasks are AMAZING. well thought out, well planned out. again, not gimmicky. The yard is spacious, the tasks are beautifully set up and presented. Everyone wants to play. Everyone tries their best to win. Since they have 3 tasks a week- HoH, PoV, and food, there is a lot to look forward to. I love watching the tasks.
• No overkill. There are only 3 highlight shows a week, and it focuses on the gameplay and not the petty arguments. There is no overkill. There arent 1000 of spinoff shows. Having a nightly highlight show in which they have to force a story, is what kills BBUK.
• All the housemates are normal. While there is always the token gay guy, minority housemate, middle aged housemate, or wahtever, the housemate are by and large a pleasure to watch. Theyre determined to enjoy themselves and win.
• No halfway housemates, and a shortened time period. 14 housemates, 9 weeks, and that's it. whoever is in, plays. We dont need to shake up the formate in the middle with new housemates. we dont need a halfway house, golden ticket holder, girlfriend coming in midway through.
• IT'S OKAY TO HAVE A GAMEPLAN AND IT'S OKAY TO WANT TO WIN. No, I dont like the format of the housemates voting each other out, and I enjoy the british verson of the game, it's not a crime to want to win this game and to try to figure out how to win this game!

In short, Endemol UK should really overhaul the format by providing a nicer house, better tasks, and better housemated. not the overgimmicked, over twisted, over crazied version they currently have. They shoudl take some pages out of Endemol US's book and spice up the format. Just my 2 cents.

Your 2 pence are welcome!!!

All well and good but BBUK is targeted specifically at a UK audience, who prefer more subtle twists and mindgames than out and out gamesmanship like the US version. The US version is primarily targeted at a US and Canadian audience who want to see open gameplaying. The UK audience prefers to see how people react to the isolation etc.

The shows producers know their audience and they know the boredom threshhold of them. The show has come to the end of its mainstream life. If they decide to resurrect it, after it finishes on Channel 4 then i am sure they will look at all options for future formats.

Because the shows highlights are reduced to three shows a week you dont know what happens with US players, whether they ask to leave, have tantrums, arguements etc. Thats what a lot of Brits like. Besides to say the US show doesnt have arguments walkouts (or threatened walkouts) and tears is quite far from the truth. They have filled out numerous highlight shows on most if not all the series with same.

While there will be some agreement to your ideas many British viewers will disagree with your opinions.

[iRyan]

Alot of british people base their opinions of BBUSA based on BB9 because it aired in the UK, but in reality they should not base their opinions just on that one season because that one season (IMO) just happened to be one of the worst BB seasons i've seen (probably because it took place mid-year and not during the summer).

[BrooklynFan]

ive watched BB7, BB8 and BB10 UK and thoroughly enjoyed them. The only BBUS season Ive watched is BB10 and i think it's the best one.

[Brekkie]

Originally Posted by Shasown

All well and good but BBUK is targeted specifically at a UK audience, who prefer more subtle twists and mindgames than out and out gamesmanship like the US version. The US version is primarily targeted at a US and Canadian audience who want to see open gameplaying. The UK audience prefers to see how people react to the isolation etc.

The shows producers know their audience and they know the boredom threshhold of them. The show has come to the end of its mainstream life. If they decide to resurrect it, after it finishes on Channel 4 then i am sure they will look at all options for future formats.

Because the shows highlights are reduced to three shows a week you dont know what happens with US players, whether they ask to leave, have tantrums, arguements etc. Thats what a lot of Brits like. Besides to say the US show doesnt have arguments walkouts (or threatened walkouts) and tears is quite far from the truth. They have filled out numerous highlight shows on most if not all the series with same.

While there will be some agreement to your ideas many British viewers will disagree with your opinions.

May I remind you this sort of view is exactly why the show has been axed!