[pixee]

For anyone who is interested

Ben=Shabby, Sunshine
Caoimhe=Sunshine,Dave
Corin=Caoimhe,Sunshine
Dave=Govan,Rachael
Govan=Sunshine,Dave
Ife=Sunshine,Steve
John James=Rachael,Shabby
Josie=Dave,Sunshine
Mario=Shabby,Corin
Nathan=Sunshine,Ben
Shabby=Sunshine,Dave
Steve=Sunshine,Shabby
Sunshine=Govan,Shabby

Was ben closer than any of those people to sunshine? Did all of them not talk to her for the first week and all get on a soap box and say "for the record i do not like you sunshine".

To take first week nominations and some how construct this idea that someone is two faced because they voted for someone else in the first week is pretty daft.

For the record I'm really liking Josie atm so not some huge ben fan just think its outragous lol what happened on HL show.

[Dannyboii]

''I'm nominating someone who I consider a close friend''

Lock Thread.

[chuff me dizzy]

I agree 100% ,it is not in the rules that EVERYONE has to like Sunshine ,whats so special about her ?

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Dannyboii

''I'm nominating someone who I consider a close friend''

Lock Thread.

pathetic

[pixee]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

I agree 100% ,it is not in the rules that EVERYONE has to like Sunshine ,whats so special about her ?

I think her usual shock at anyone nominating her tonight (not losing 500quid lol) kind of was the spark for others to turn it around.

[SoFarSoGood282]

BB should tell the house that JJ nominated Shabby..... since he loves to go flapping his lips to her.

[Dannyboii]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

pathetic

Wasnt talking to you **** chops

[Jords]

You still know who you are more close to and who you are not.....

[pixee]

Originally Posted by Jords

You still know who you are more close to and who you are not.....

but is that not with the benefit of hindsight, like i look at the people he could of voted for and think only shabby is an obvious vote? but i only say that cause we now know how much he hates her, like i could pick 5 people he could vote for now without causing a shock.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Dannyboii

''I'm nominating someone who I consider a close friend''

Lock Thread.

Exactly he was CONSIDERING
consider means to think about it

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Dannyboii

Wasnt talking to you **** chops

Did you say who you were talking to?

[Dannyboii]

Its not the fact her voted for her, its the fact he pretended to be/was her friend. Whilst the others weren't necessarily nasty to her, it was obvious she was disliked and was nominated. Ben was the only one saying to Sunshine 'your my mate' and he nominated. People don't dislike the fact 'someone' nominated sunshine, they dislike the fact it was done in a very 2 faced way.

And before the same old idiots start harping on about how 'they werent mates' Ben said they were himself when he voted for her.

[Jords]

Originally Posted by kazanne

Exactly he was CONSIDERING
consider means to think about it

You could argue he was considering if she was a close friend or just a friend, still a few he didnt get on with that week/hadnt spoke with he could have nominated.

And that is true pixee, but he could have based it on who he hadnt spoke with as much etc. rather than nom somebody he had spoken with a lot and had told her she was a friend.

[Dannyboii]

Originally Posted by kazanne

Exactly he was CONSIDERING
consider means to think about it

Consider means thinks. Considering means thinking.

[pixee]

Originally Posted by Dannyboii

Its not the fact her voted for her, its the fact he pretended to be/was her friend. Whilst the others weren't necessarily nasty to her, it was obvious she was disliked and was nominated. Ben was the only one saying to Sunshine 'your my mate' and he nominated. People don't dislike the fact 'someone' nominated sunshine, they dislike the fact it was done in a very 2 faced way.

And before the same old idiots start harping on about how 'they werent mates' Ben said they were himself when he voted for her.

Tbh as i said i'm not a huge ben fan and he quite openly says he wants people to like him so that would cause some hypocracy.

But do you not think it was unfair that those who failed the task by talking about noms turned it on an innocent HM?

I mean you're obv a sunshine fan so leaving her aside cause she was also innocent in the failing of the task.

[fingers]

Originally Posted by pixee

Tbh as i said i'm not a huge ben fan and he quite openly says he wants people to like him so that would cause some hypocracy.

But do you not think it was unfair that those who failed the task by talking about noms turned it on an innocent HM?

I mean you're obv a sunshine fan so leaving her aside cause she was also innocent in the failing of the task.

He's not a fan, he's her cousin.

[pixee]

Originally Posted by fingers

He's not a fan, he's her cousin.

Ah haha does that create a conflict of interests?

[Dannyboii]

Originally Posted by pixee

Tbh as i said i'm not a huge ben fan and he quite openly says he wants people to like him so that would cause some hypocracy.

But do you not think it was unfair that those who failed the task by talking about noms turned it on an innocent HM?

I mean you're obv a sunshine fan so leaving her aside cause she was also innocent in the failing of the task.

I like Ben myself, just think people are defending him a bit too much for something he did wrong. Sunshine does **** I dont like, she can't sing for example, but I dont go onto threads being all anal like 'She has an amazing voice' and calling people who are actually right 'pathetic' (not a rant at you btw, aimed at the more socially retarded members of the forum [and perhaps even the outside world])

As for the question at hand, I dont think JJ was trying to divert attention as he was very little to do with it really (the convo between keeva and shabby). I think him and Dave were just disappointed in Ben.

[Dannyboii]

Originally Posted by fingers

He's not a fan, he's her cousin.

+1

I try not to be too biased .

[pixee]

Originally Posted by Dannyboii

I like Ben myself, just think people are defending him a bit too much for something he did wrong. Sunshine does **** I dont like, she can't sing for example, but I dont go onto threads being all anal like 'She has an amazing voice' and calling people who are actually right 'pathetic' (not a rant at you btw, aimed at the more socially retarded members of the forum [and perhaps even the outside world])

As for the question at hand, I dont think JJ was trying to divert attention as he was very little to do with it really (the convo between keeva and shabby). I think him and Dave were just disappointed in Ben.

Yeah I suppose but equally if I was ben i'd be rethinking JJ talking to them about it. It is a game at the end of the day and they all want to win so where in the outside world a bit bitching is nothing it obviously riles people in and outside the house cause there is money at stake which we sometimes forget.

[Dannyboii]

Originally Posted by pixee

Yeah I suppose but equally if I was ben i'd be rethinking JJ talking to them about it. It is a game at the end of the day and they all want to win so where in the outside world a bit bitching is nothing it obviously riles people in and outside the house cause there is money at stake which we sometimes forget.

Yeah true. TBH I can kinda see why he nommed her - She was being a bit of a pillock n crying n stuff right before. The thing is, if someones annoying you, you should tell them. You dont suck up to them and then stab them in the back. IMO its no better than pretending to be mates with someone, then walking out the room and immediately slagging them off.

Its not the fact that he did, nor reason why he nommed her that has wound people up, more the approach he took.

But your 100% spot on, it is a game with a cash prize, so I'm not surprised there has been a few naughty tactics, just dont get why people defend them