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Julie10 · 24-07-2010, 07:10 AM

I think he is just feeling insecure about the new hms and again Josie is part of his plan to keep airtime on him. The new JJ is a threat to him and he is willing to use Josie to get his way. He said I love you Josie with his back to her.

When she asked him what he said he repeated it again with his back to her. It was all for the cameras and I hope it backfires big time. I don't want to watch a fauxmance and I am not easily fooled by his behaviour. One minute he wants to leave because he doesn't know how to deal with her the next thing he is dropping himself in it and telling her he loves her.

He really is a strange one considering hes watched BB and thinks he has the show down to a tee.

Zippy · 24-07-2010, 07:15 AM

He's an absolute mess. People blame her but truth is he's giving her seriously mixed messages all over the shop. Even when her feelings were spelt out clearly to him he suddenly starts cuddling up with her and almost kissing in bed! This after he declared that he wasnt interested in her that way. Well back off then you dumb selfish tuwatt. She has feelings y'know. Just leading her on for his own selfish needs.

Utterly ridiculous. Disaster together. And VERY BORING viewing too, frankly. Groundhog day indeed.

joeysteele · 24-07-2010, 07:56 AM

I don't think John James know what love is actually,he seems to need close contact but more in a 'friend' way or family memeber. That is likely why he says he sees this Josie as a Sister, now hs eis the other way, she wnats to 'own' someone,she keeps telling him she knows what he's like,so that is psychologiaclly telling him she ha sa hold on him, if that gets in his head enough he will feel he HAS to rely on her, she is playing what is called a form of mind games,very cunning ones and soon she will likely be firing at him things she has said she has said and that is why he was foolish to let her switch HIS mirophone off the other week,because he will end up believing he has sadi things he hasn't. Josie needs to get back to how she was in the very early weeks and at the moment she iss till saying it but has to really believ it and move on, she cannot believe a guy like John James could fancy her,he 'couldn't' and 'doesn't' so the sooner she realises that and gives up her stalking him, the better she and he will be and also the rest of this BB series too.

fingers · 24-07-2010, 08:00 AM

http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/v...ve-you/play.c4

Seeing isn't always believing!

Zippy · 24-07-2010, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele

I don't think John James know what love is actually,he seems to need close contact but more in a 'friend' way or family memeber. That is likely why he says he sees this Josie as a Sister, now hs eis the other way, she wnats to 'own' someone,she keeps telling him she knows what he's like,so that is psychologiaclly telling him she ha sa hold on him, if that gets in his head enough he will feel he HAS to rely on her, she is playing what is called a form of mind games,very cunning ones and soon she will likely be firing at him things she has said she has said and that is why he was foolish to let her switch HIS mirophone off the other week,because he will end up believing he has sadi things he hasn't. Josie needs to get back to how she was in the very early weeks and at the moment she iss till saying it but has to really believ it and move on, she cannot believe a guy like John James could fancy her,he 'couldn't' and 'doesn't' so the sooner she realises that and gives up her stalking him, the better she and he will be and also the rest of this BB series too.

What tosh! No surprise you don't blame JJ in all that pseudo psychology BS.

He's leading her on STILL. end of.

Zippy · 24-07-2010, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by fingers

http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/v...ve-you/play.c4

Seeing isn't always believing!

What does it say? I dont do video links.

Jords · 24-07-2010, 08:09 AM

John James and Josie are very jelous people in my eyes. I was quick to shift most of the blame onto Josie for the corupt relationship at first, however it is very clear now that John James is giving her mixed messages and leading her on. Hes never told her that he isnt attracted to her, but has in the diary room saying that he doesnt like her that way. However he is telling Josie that he 'loves' her and carries on the snuggling. No doubt he only means this in a friend way, but wants to lead her on to make her feel she still has a chance with him for the air time, disgusting behaviour which he is only getting away with it because he is a 'hot' guy - completely copying Noirin last year.

Josie felt threatened with Caoimhe and Keeley, and now Laura, notice how she didnt want her in, but really wanted Jo...

John James had nobody to feel threatened by before, but now he has JJ to be (although I think he was slightly jelous about Andrew

)

Will never ever work on the outside, one thing John James doesnt even fancy her, the other they have no trust at all.

Julie10 · 24-07-2010, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by fingers

http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/v...ve-you/play.c4

Seeing isn't always believing!

I watched it and there is just no emotion on his face at all he just said it like it meant nothing. I also wondered if he thought she was asleep as he didn't actually say it to her he said it quietly probably knowing it would be picked up and given airtime. He then repeated it when she asked what he had said.

If he does love her good for him but i can't help feeling it was JJ clawing back some airtime because he felt he might be losing it with the new hms joining them. Also how he put on the Beckham football shirt. He is very BB savvy and again well done JJ you sure are fooling some people.

But at the moment I am not buying it.

fingers · 24-07-2010, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Zippy

What does it say? I dont do video links.

" I love you, Jos!"

joeysteele · 24-07-2010, 08:15 AM

Of course I blame John James too, but he is in a way vulnerable, he has this thing as to older women, and Josie is a strong character,what I ahte about Josie is she involves near lal the other housemates,in this, she also has used them to get what she wants said to John James. Even she is now sayinf to him we are friends but to others she is giving the impression he is hers. She is the main atalking one, of course he should say if he really only sees her as a Sister fihure that they should spned less time with each other and tell her to leave him alone and he will leaver her alone, he also guesses that will start a backlash and he likely recalls when he was bullied at school by older girls.
You can praise Josie all you like and run John James down on this but guys can be cowards and stupid at times,some prefer the goirl to break things up so the guy doesn't look bad, John James is in that position now,he doesn't know what to do but doesn't want to be seen as the bad guy, they are both playing it but she 1) should have more sense and be more of a realist and 2) she should stop 'letting' other housemates think they are an item,equally the other housemates are doing them no favours either as what thye should do is obviously not plan it, but its a pity thye dont near lal go in and nominate both John JAMES and Josie for eviction thereby which that would ensure one of them go and that solves the problem.Josie is the bully boiler,no doubt on that though.

Zippy · 24-07-2010, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by fingers

" I love you, Jos!"

He's said that before. Couple of weeks back when they were in beds near each other. I remember being taken aback by it.

So don't anybody tell me he doesn't lead her on. He does BIG TIME!

No wonder her heads messed up. Shame on any woman that can't relate to that. And the jealousy that goes with it.

joeysteele · 24-07-2010, 10:11 AM

Josie is the bunny boiler I meant to say not bully boiler.

BBfan46 · 24-07-2010, 10:13 AM

YES!!! Josie is a master conspirator and has formulated a full proof plan to win Big Brother! Get that tyrannical bitch out!!! :|

skkc16 · 24-07-2010, 11:06 AM

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YES!!! Josie is a master conspirator and has formulated a full proof plan to win Big Brother! Get that tyrannical bitch out!!! :|

Rofl at you saying that when you've got that sig....I know you probably have. Had time to change it but still

karezza · 24-07-2010, 11:06 AM

Why would an asexual narcissist like John James be attracted to an overweight, smelly, thumbsucking dirtbag like Josie?

Julie10 · 24-07-2010, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by karezza

Why would an asexual narcissist like John James be attracted to an overweight, smelly, thumbsucking dirtbag like Josie?

I take it you are not a fan of Josies

ange7 · 24-07-2010, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by fingers

http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/v...ve-you/play.c4

Seeing isn't always believing!

that was hardly a declaration of love. More like what you would say to someone who you "care about" as you fall asleep. Both say it's not "in that way" repeatedly. He cares for her a lot... that's the sense that he meant it. Clearly. If it was a declaration of true love as this thread suggests then why have his back to her hehe.

arista · 24-07-2010, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by karezza

Why would an asexual narcissist like John James be attracted to an overweight, smelly, thumbsucking dirtbag like Josie?

Maybe he likes a Dirty Lazy Shag.

Julie10 · 24-07-2010, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ange7

that was hardly a declaration of love. More like what you would say to someone who you "care about" as you fall asleep. Both say it's not "in that way" repeatedly. He cares for her a lot... that's the sense that he meant it. Clearly. If it was a declaration of true love as this thread suggests then why have his back to her hehe.

I didn't say it was a declaration of true love. He just has to be careful not to lead her on as she might take it as him meaning he loves her. To me it was said to get a reaction from the BB audience and keep him in the limelight. Nothing wrong with that but don't cry when it ends in tears.

It wouldn't suprise me if JJ and Josie get alot of votes this week either as people are beginning to suss them both out and are not impressed with them isolating themselves from the group.

karezza · 24-07-2010, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by arista

Maybe he likes a Dirty Lazy Shag.

He can't have proper sex - he is the 30 second man.

Mr XcX · 24-07-2010, 12:15 PM

Called AIR TIME!!!!
Pathetic how both these are the faves.

ange7 · 24-07-2010, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Julie10

I didn't say it was a declaration of true love. He just has to be careful not to lead her on as she might take it as him meaning he loves her. To me it was said to get a reaction from the BB audience and keep him in the limelight. Nothing wrong with that but don't cry when it ends in tears.

It wouldn't suprise me if JJ and Josie get alot of votes this week either as people are beginning to suss them both out and are not impressed with them isolating themselves from the group.

"to get a reaction from the BB audience and keep him in the limelight. Nothing wrong with that"
I do think there is something wrong with that but I don't think JJ is doing that. She is a mate...they are close. He's had millions of opportunities to rubbish Josie behind her back but never has. She on the other hand has ....if one of them is acting it up for the cameras and being 2 faced it's Josie.