[sam69.]

The normal person sitting at home watching this series has lost out this year because of facebook. In order to vote for 7p a go, you need to have a facebook account. These accounts are wide and well supported by the internet world and not the general public. In a home with a computer with mum, dad and 2.4 kids, no more than one will have a facebook account. (generally the young sibling in the houshold)

This means that when ma and pa vote on their phones, little johhny fires 7 votes at Aaron for the same money. This internet campaign to champion Aaron to victory has secured him a better than great chance to win but if anyone needs to win by cheating, lying and manipulating (PLAYING THE GAME) it will be regarded by most as a hollow victory which is reflected by the number of boos heard on the tv last night.

All this rubbish about bb being infaltrated by Jay fans is rubbish, Aaron is getting the block votes and this is why he is going to probably win. One cyber warrior with £1 and 14 votes out trumps 5 ma and pa telephone votes, ergo Alex or Jay may have more fans but Aaron has the internet voters because of forums like this.

This isnt wrong, it is just my opinion that Face book has handed Aaron a hollow victory.

[Beso]

It would be true, but little Johnny will think Aaron is a boring old fart.

[Jords]

It definitely gives online supporters a bigger advantage, if this was introduced before wed have some very different results Im sure as its so cheap.

[Incensed]

Originally Posted by parmnion

It would be true, but little Johnny will think Aaron is a boring old fart.

Exactly my thinking.

[Mumbles]

Originally Posted by sam69.

The normal person sitting at home watching this series has lost out this year because of facebook. In order to vote for 7p a go, you need to have a facebook account. These accounts are wide and well supported by the internet world and not the general public. In a home with a computer with mum, dad and 2.4 kids, no more than one will have a facebook account. (generally the young sibling in the houshold)

This means that when ma and pa vote on their phones, little johhny fires 7 votes at Aaron for the same money. This internet campaign to champion Aaron to victory has secured him a better than great chance to win but if anyone needs to win by cheating, lying and manipulating (PLAYING THE GAME) it will be regarded by most as a hollow victory which is reflected by the number of boos heard on the tv last night.

All this rubbish about bb being infaltrated by Jay fans is rubbish, Aaron is getting the block votes and this is why he is going to probably win. One cyber warrior with £1 and 7 votes out trumps 5 ma and pa telephone votes, ergo Alex or Jay may have more fans but Aaron has the internet voters because of forums like this.

This isnt wrong, it is just my opinion that Face book has handed Aaron a hollow victory.

Voting rules apply to all housemates equally though. There could have been just as much block voting for any other HM as there has been for Aaron. and it's not like other housemats haven't had internet campaigns. Just look at all the work Jay's mum's been doing on Facebook and Twitter. She even mentioned how many messages of support she'd had for ay on Facebook last night. It's a level playing field for all the housemates. It may just be your opinion that Facebook has handed Aaron the victory, but I'm afraid your opinion is based on incorrect assumptions.

[sam69.]

If my opinons are wrong, why are forums and forum votes reporting massive numbers and support for Aaron. I am only quoting the obvious and I agree it is a level playing field but Aaron supporters are greater in number than Alex and Jay.

It will be interesting to see what the figures come out with regarding facebook Aaron votes and Alex as opposed to Aaron tel votes v Alex.

This thread is not designed to inflame, it is merely an opinionated observation backed up by documented figures.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by sam69.

If my opinons are wrong, why are forums and forum votes reporting massive numbers and support for Aaron. I am only quoting the obvious and I agree it is a level playing field but Aaron supporters are greater in number than Alex and Jay.

It will be interesting to see what the figures come out with regarding facebook Aaron votes and Alex as opposed to Aaron tel votes v Alex.

This thread is not designed to inflame, it is merely an opinionated observation backed up by documented figures.

I think Aaron fans are the same ones on all forums and facebook..his fan base is therefore over exaggerated.

[fingers]

Originally Posted by sam69.

If my opinons are wrong, why are forums and forum votes reporting massive numbers and support for Aaron. I am only quoting the obvious and I agree it is a level playing field but Aaron supporters are greater in number than Alex and Jay.

It will be interesting to see what the figures come out with regarding facebook Aaron votes and Alex as opposed to Aaron tel votes v Alex.

This thread is not designed to inflame, it is merely an opinionated observation backed up by documented figures.

They are NOT going to tell you how many votes were cast and via which medium!

[BJ]

Originally Posted by sam69.

The normal person sitting at home watching this series has lost out this year because of facebook. In order to vote for 7p a go, you need to have a facebook account. These accounts are wide and well supported by the internet world and not the general public. In a home with a computer with mum, dad and 2.4 kids, no more than one will have a facebook account. (generally the young sibling in the houshold)

This means that when ma and pa vote on their phones, little johhny fires 7 votes at Aaron for the same money. This internet campaign to champion Aaron to victory has secured him a better than great chance to win but if anyone needs to win by cheating, lying and manipulating (PLAYING THE GAME) it will be regarded by most as a hollow victory which is reflected by the number of boos heard on the tv last night.

All this rubbish about bb being infaltrated by Jay fans is rubbish, Aaron is getting the block votes and this is why he is going to probably win. One cyber warrior with £1 and 7 votes out trumps 5 ma and pa telephone votes, ergo Alex or Jay may have more fans but Aaron has the internet voters because of forums like this.

This isnt wrong, it is just my opinion that Face book has handed Aaron a hollow victory.

Somehow I think mums are more likely to vote for Aaron than Jay

[GabbygalEvs]

couldnt it be that they all have the same chance of block voting id say jay fans are more likely to votew on facebook although i have a few times

[BJ]

Originally Posted by parmnion

I think Aaron fans are the same ones on all forums and facebook..his fan base is therefore over exaggerated.

I only belong to this forum so there's no overlap with me

[Mumbles]

Originally Posted by sam69.

If my opinons are wrong, why are forums and forum votes reporting massive numbers and support for Aaron. I am only quoting the obvious and I agree it is a level playing field but Aaron supporters are greater in number than Alex and Jay.

It will be interesting to see what the figures come out with regarding facebook Aaron votes and Alex as opposed to Aaron tel votes v Alex.

This thread is not designed to inflame, it is merely an opinionated observation backed up by documented figures.

You're putting the horse before the cart here. Aaron is getting more votes because he's more popular, more supporters = more votes. It's nothing to do with facebook, because all housemates can be voted for via facebook.

You seem to be making an assumption that non-aaron fans somehow don't have the same access to facebook that Aaron fans do. What are you basing that on?

[Kore]

Aaron dominates the forums and online, of course he will get the most facebook votes. He has this BB win in the bag

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Mumbles

You're putting the horse before the cart here. Aaron is getting more votes because he's more popular, more supporters = more votes. It's nothing to do with facebook, because all housemates can be voted for via facebook.

You seem to be making an assumption that non-aaron fans somehow don't have the same access to facebook that Aaron fans do. What are you basing that on?

you're making the assumption that Shaaron is getting more votes.

[sam69.]

Originally Posted by Mumbles

You're putting the horse before the cart here. Aaron is getting more votes because he's more popular, more supporters = more votes. It's nothing to do with facebook, because all housemates can be voted for via facebook.

You seem to be making an assumption that non-aaron fans somehow don't have the same access to facebook that Aaron fans do. What are you basing that on?

On most forums, including this one, Aaron is streets ahead of everyone yet on the book, highstreet bookies report much higher interest in Alex. Bookies dont give money away and if Aaron was a massive fav, they would have him installed as their fav odds on. They actually show their odds based on bets laid and liabilities on payouts recorded.

They will actually show a profit if aaron wins because of the volume of money bet on alex. This showes the void between internet favs and peoples favs.

[fingers]

If Ch5 do the count in the fairest way then 5 FB votes will be counted as 1 telephone vote! lol

[psychtracker]

Originally Posted by sam69.

The normal person sitting at home watching this series has lost out this year because of facebook. In order to vote for 7p a go, you need to have a facebook account. These accounts are wide and well supported by the internet world and not the general public. In a home with a computer with mum, dad and 2.4 kids, no more than one will have a facebook account. (generally the young sibling in the houshold)

This means that when ma and pa vote on their phones, little johhny fires 7 votes at Aaron for the same money. This internet campaign to champion Aaron to victory has secured him a better than great chance to win but if anyone needs to win by cheating, lying and manipulating (PLAYING THE GAME) it will be regarded by most as a hollow victory which is reflected by the number of boos heard on the tv last night.

All this rubbish about bb being infaltrated by Jay fans is rubbish, Aaron is getting the block votes and this is why he is going to probably win. One cyber warrior with £1 and 7 votes out trumps 5 ma and pa telephone votes, ergo Alex or Jay may have more fans but Aaron has the internet voters because of forums like this.

This isnt wrong, it is just my opinion that Face book has handed Aaron a hollow victory.

What's the actual cost breakdown in comparison? u say costs 7p ea vote, but then u say u get 7 votes for £1, which works out at about 14p ea. Is it 7p ea if u buy more bulk votes on FB? How much does each phone vote cost? Is the max amount one person can vote the same for phone & FB?

[sam69.]

Originally Posted by fingers

If Ch5 do the count in the fairest way then 5 FB votes will be counted as 1 telephone vote! lol

If this was the case, alex wins hands down, sadly it isnt and there are some tv,s looking like they may be in need of repair tomorrow, lol. Can you imagine the outrage if aaron wins and admits he played the system, half of the sets north of watford will need security meash on them, lol.

Levity and fun is the name of the game, not manipulation procreated by lies and manipulation. Big brother has lost its shine for me by allowing game players to enter the house with future plans in mind. Long gone are the days of the nutters supplying entertainment for the masses, its now about mag deals and fame.

This is why CH4 dumped it.

[sam69.]

Originally Posted by psychtracker

What's the actual cost breakdown in comparison? u say costs 7p ea vote, but then u say u get 7 votes for £1, which works out at about 14p ea. Is it 7p ea if u buy more bulk votes on FB? How much does each phone vote cost? Is the max amount one person can vote the same for phone & FB?

Sorry my bad, £1 = 14 votes not 7 as I wrote, I get mixed up sometimes hardly, lol

[Mumbles]

Originally Posted by parmnion

you're making the assumption that Shaaron is getting more votes.

I was basing that on Sam's comment - "forums and forum votes reporting massive numbers and support for Aaron".

[psychtracker]

Originally Posted by sam69.

If this was the case, alex wins hands down, sadly it isnt and there are some tv,s looking like they may be in need of repair tomorrow, lol. Can you imagine the outrage if aaron wins and admits he played the system, half of the sets north of watford will need security meash on them, lol.

Levity and fun is the name of the game, not manipulation procreated by lies and manipulation. Big brother has lost its shine for me by allowing game players to enter the house with future plans in mind. Long gone are the days of the nutters supplying entertainment for the masses, its now about mag deals and fame.

This is why CH4 dumped it.

But strong game players have never won, and C4 dropped the show, so i don't understand your reasoning there. If Aaron won he would be a different type of winner, Alex winning is business as usual, the status quo, and a revisiting of the ship that previously sank.

[Mumbles]

Originally Posted by sam69.

On most forums, including this one, Aaron is streets ahead of everyone yet on the book, highstreet bookies report much higher interest in Alex. Bookies dont give money away and if Aaron was a massive fav, they would have him installed as their fav odds on. They actually show their odds based on bets laid and liabilities on payouts recorded.

They will actually show a profit if aaron wins because of the volume of money bet on alex. This showes the void between internet favs and peoples favs.

The bookies don't always get things right. I think this year, with vote to save, they've not done particularly well with predicting the winner each week.

This forum though, does seem to have been particularly good at predicting results each week.

[psychtracker]

Yep, the bookies have had a shocker this season!

[sam69.]

Ask yourself this.......How many people posess a phone verses a facebook account....One in 5 maybe. Now what is the ratio of support on facebook from aaron v alex voters, I would hazzerd a guess at more than 2 to 1 in favour of aaron......do the maths

Facebook will win it for aaron, simple

[Mumbles]

Originally Posted by sam69.

Ask yourself this.......How many people posess a phone verses a facebook account....One in 5 maybe. Now what is the ratio of support on facebook from aaron v alex voters, I would hazzerd a guess at more than 2 to 1 in favour of aaron......do the maths

Facebook will win it for aaron, simple

I'm really not following your logic or your maths here. What are you saying is the difference between Alex fans and Aaron fans? More Aaron fans have access to facebook? If so, what are basing that on?