[Vicky.]

Probably going to be a tl;dr thing but meh. I have an hour to kill and I am bored so I thought I would put down my full thoughts on each housemate. I dont expect any replies as such, but please dont turn this into yet another Dexter V Sam thread..as it is about all of the housemates and I seriously cant be arsed with another 'dex is a conman' 'sam is boring' thread, its crap and its all thats on the forum right now..parroting the same **** over and over. Feel free to add your thoughts to the thread though, but I would appreciate it very much if it wasnt just 'X is a twat' 'X should win' and stuff.

So

Charlie - When will this girl make up her mind. I have been up and down with her over the series, I was delighted when her mother left as I thought we would see the real Charlie. Unfortunately the real charlie ended up being an extremely annoying, needy, indecisive moaner I fully believe her gameplan is to make others look bad through her endless whinging and twisting words, and self pitying. Thats not a bad thing, they all have a gameplan..but it is annoying to watch her go about it. I believe this is partly down to Hazel..the night Jackie left, Hazel spent a LONG time telling Charlie how to play/manipulate men. And advising her to do it. She purposely kept Callum hanging on, and she is purposely keeping Dexter hanging on. I thought a while back that there was a chance she actually liked one (or both) of them but now I see that was never there. She saw an opportunity for airtime and ran with it. She was the one who kept bringing the triangle up, as she knew that she was boring without it. I felt sorry for Callum, as he was clearly totally smitten..and he thought he had a chance, and she took the piss big style. On the plus side, I do think she has a fun side. I enjoy seeing her dancing, and the foodfight with Hazel (NOT cucumbergate ) was good to watch. She has been at the centre of a lot of drama this year, but unfortunately this made me go off her more and more, rather than the other way around.

Dexter - Well what can I say. He is my favourite by a long shot. He has kept me interested from the beginning, mainly because I cant never figure out his next move, and I do not understand him still even now. When he entered the house, I believe my words about him were something along the lines of 'I KNOW I am going to hate this guy'. How much difference a few days make. For me, it became obvious very quickly that his persona was false. I do not understand why he thought it would he a good idea to go in there with his 'work head' on him. Obviously that would make him hated, if he came across arrogant and cocky and just as a prick. At one point I wondered if maybe he got a friend to put a bet on him after his first week..as he is a gambler, and the plan was to purposely play up to the cameras to make his odds as bad (or good) as possible through him being hated..get the bet on.. then be himself from then and hop he would be liked for it. If that was the plan, it seems to have worked. He is insanely popular, I know some dont like to admit that but it is true.

I do not believe he is completely genuine in everything. However I do not believe (and think its quite ridiculous to believe) that every little move he makes is calculating and part of his gameplan. I think his master gameplan that they all go on about was to be a twat, then be genuine. If you are completely hated in the early days, it can only get better really (ala Alex Reid in CBB). He was extremely lucky to survive the first eviction though..and I am thankful to Sallie for being such a bitch that week and leaving instead of him

I do think that Sallie made things difficult for Dexter, and still is doing. From the second she bellowed 'snake' at him, the other housemates (and some viewers) ran with it. They still say it to this day, however oddly enough, whenever asked about it they never seem to be able to come up with examples of this snake like behaviour. Sophie last night said something about 'someone told Hazel that Dexter said he had a gameplan'. So its basically all chinese whispers. I found the way he was treat in the early weeks due to being ostracized with the snake thing utterly disgusting. Everyone walking out of rooms when he entered and stuff. But meh. It seems to have helped him public supportwise so maybe it was a good thing. I was very happy when he palled up with Gina (who was pretty much the only housemate who didnt care about the others perception of him..or her ) and was a bit peed off with him when he nominated her but I understood why he did it. What I didnt understand though, was why he took Daleys word for it, and didnt just ask Gina herself what had happened..

I think he genuinely likes Charlie. I was skeptical at first..about it all. I never automatically assumed it was a gameplan just because it was Dexter, as others did. I still dont see why him fancying Hazel means he cant genuinely fancy charlie..but there you go. I think now though, it is painfully obvious that he does have feelings for her. He wouldnt put up with the endless **** otherwise. Of course I may be wrong.

I think he is a chancer, a gameplayer, a bit of a knob at times, sly when he wants to be..but deep down I think there is a deeply insecure individual who is desperate to be liked. I believe the emotion he shows when saved is genuine.

I could go on about Dexter for ages and ages, but I wanted this to be about all of the housemates so I will stop now

Gina
- My god, another that I couldnt stand when she entered. Gina never grew on me til about week 2 or 3. Whenever the task was where she drank that awful stuff. Before that I thought she was totally up herself, and a waste of a housemate as I was sure she was going to walk out. Her race-card playing was absolutely shocking. There is nothing else that could be said about that IMO. It was disgraceful and I really disliked her for it.

I still think she's stuck up. I think shes a bitch. I think she looks down on people. I think she is an utter hypocrite. But I actually like her. Its strange, normally I would hate a housemate like her, but here is actually something endearing about her. I feel she has been the most 'real'..which some will find strange as its clear her lifestory and such are lies..but I do think she has been herself, and the most consistent since the start. She is my second favourite. Fr a while she was overtaken by Hazel, and for a short while Callum too..but she has always ranked in my top 4 housemates.

I feel she was very unfair to Hazel. However I do think there was more to it than we saw.

In short, a great housemate overall. If Dexter doesn't win I would be extremely happy with Gina winning.

Twins - Just can't stand them. I feel bad for that as I do think they are nice guys deep down (or at least one of them is) but they come across to me as so smug, self entitled and bitter. Their irrational hatred towards Dexter probably doesn't help things if I am honest.

At one point I did think they were funny. I remember making a thread about one of their arguments a while back, and everyone jumped down my neck saying it was obviously fake and stuff.

I am gutted that they keep being saved first every week. I dont understand why the week I suspect they didnt have the least votes, the saves were 'in no particular' order. Emma, and BOTS bias towards them is shocking to say the least. This probably doesnt help my opinion of them. I feel they are being rammed down our throats..and we are being told we should like them because they are sweet and funny, when I just dont see that. One of them is a lot better than the other though, the bitchy twin brings him down.

I would hate if they won. I would probably throw a strop and say I wouldnt watch next year because of it

Sam - Sam is an odd one for me, because I dislike him now, but I find him entertaining. Whereas beforehand when he was rammed up callums arse and invisible, I moaned that he as boring..but he came across as a nice guy most of the time. I am extremely glad he has woken up these past few weeks. I feel he is going to win (it seems inevitable) and I would not be happy if he won after spending the whole duration in bed. At least now, he has actually done stuff.

He (like the twins) comes across as extremely bitter too most of the time. His hatred for Dexter seems irrational and I do think its down to Callum poisoning his mind. He doesnt seem to have his OWN opinion on Dexter..as about a week ago he said something in the pool with the twins about Dexter not being that bad..and the twins immediately got Sam back on the hating him bandwagon

I do not think he is as dim as he comes across. I think he is a very smart bloke. I believe the forgetting the alphabet and stuff was part of his gameplan..he had the same plan as Sophie. For some reason the voters like people who come across as thick as pig ****, so you cant blame housemates for trying the 'Im thick' angle really.

I admire the way he (now) says exactly what he thinks, even if I disagree with what he says. I just dislike the WAY he does it. He comes across as slightly aggressive at times when arguing. And he is extremely rude too. He goes on about people talking over him, yet he does the exact same thing himself. Its almost as if he thinks he should be treat differently to others..that he shouldnt be held to the same standards that he expects others to adhere to.

Having said all of this, I wouldn't mind him winning. He is actually my third fave, behind Dexter and Gina..and has been for a while now.


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So yeah, my ramblings

[Im_Juz_ChiLLin]

Brilliant analysis of All the housemates i think as a mod you should Sticky this thread Vicky. It is a masterful piece of writing

[Jamie585]

Am i the only person on the forum who likes Charlie and thinks she has been a great addition to this years show?

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Jamie585

Am i the only person on the forum who likes Charlie and thinks she has been a great addition to this years show?

I dont dislike her, she just infuriates me. I do think she has been a good addition to the show though.

[CaudleHalbard]

Good stuff Vicky - thanks for posting.

I agree with most of it.

[reece(:]

Charlie's definitely been an interestingly annoying HM.

[Gerbil901]

Personally can't stand Dexter and disagree with some of what you said but I do respect your opinion as it was a great post.

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Probably going to be a tl;dr thing but meh. I have an hour to kill and I am bored so I thought I would put down my full thoughts on each housemate. I dont expect any replies as such, but please dont turn this into yet another Dexter V Sam thread..as it is about all of the housemates and I seriously cant be arsed with another 'dex is a conman' 'sam is boring' thread, its crap and its all thats on the forum right now..parroting the same **** over and over. Feel free to add your thoughts to the thread though, but I would appreciate it very much if it wasnt just 'X is a twat' 'X should win' and stuff.

So

Charlie - When will this girl make up her mind. I have been up and down with her over the series, I was delighted when her mother left as I thought we would see the real Charlie. Unfortunately the real charlie ended up being an extremely annoying, needy, indecisive moaner I fully believe her gameplan is to make others look bad through her endless whinging and twisting words, and self pitying. Thats not a bad thing, they all have a gameplan..but it is annoying to watch her go about it. I believe this is partly down to Hazel..the night Jackie left, Hazel spent a LONG time telling Charlie how to play/manipulate men. And advising her to do it. She purposely kept Callum hanging on, and she is purposely keeping Dexter hanging on. I thought a while back that there was a chance she actually liked one (or both) of them but now I see that was never there. She saw an opportunity for airtime and ran with it. She was the one who kept bringing the triangle up, as she knew that she was boring without it. I felt sorry for Callum, as he was clearly totally smitten..and he thought he had a chance, and she took the piss big style. On the plus side, I do think she has a fun side. I enjoy seeing her dancing, and the foodfight with Hazel (NOT cucumbergate ) was good to watch. She has been at the centre of a lot of drama this year, but unfortunately this made me go off her more and more, rather than the other way around.

Dexter - Well what can I say. He is my favourite by a long shot. He has kept me interested from the beginning, mainly because I cant never figure out his next move, and I do not understand him still even now. When he entered the house, I believe my words about him were something along the lines of 'I KNOW I am going to hate this guy'. How much difference a few days make. For me, it became obvious very quickly that his persona was false. I do not understand why he thought it would he a good idea to go in there with his 'work head' on him. Obviously that would make him hated, if he came across arrogant and cocky and just as a prick. At one point I wondered if maybe he got a friend to put a bet on him after his first week..as he is a gambler, and the plan was to purposely play up to the cameras to make his odds as bad (or good) as possible through him being hated..get the bet on.. then be himself from then and hop he would be liked for it. If that was the plan, it seems to have worked. He is insanely popular, I know some dont like to admit that but it is true.

I do not believe he is completely genuine in everything. However I do not believe (and think its quite ridiculous to believe) that every little move he makes is calculating and part of his gameplan. I think his master gameplan that they all go on about was to be a twat, then be genuine. If you are completely hated in the early days, it can only get better really (ala Alex Reid in CBB). He was extremely lucky to survive the first eviction though..and I am thankful to Sallie for being such a bitch that week and leaving instead of him

I do think that Sallie made things difficult for Dexter, and still is doing. From the second she bellowed 'snake' at him, the other housemates (and some viewers) ran with it. They still say it to this day, however oddly enough, whenever asked about it they never seem to be able to come up with examples of this snake like behaviour. Sophie last night said something about 'someone told Hazel that Dexter said he had a gameplan'. So its basically all chinese whispers. I found the way he was treat in the early weeks due to being ostracized with the snake thing utterly disgusting. Everyone walking out of rooms when he entered and stuff. But meh. It seems to have helped him public supportwise so maybe it was a good thing. I was very happy when he palled up with Gina (who was pretty much the only housemate who didnt care about the others perception of him..or her ) and was a bit peed off with him when he nominated her but I understood why he did it. What I didnt understand though, was why he took Daleys word for it, and didnt just ask Gina herself what had happened..

I think he genuinely likes Charlie. I was skeptical at first..about it all. I never automatically assumed it was a gameplan just because it was Dexter, as others did. I still dont see why him fancying Hazel means he cant genuinely fancy charlie..but there you go. I think now though, it is painfully obvious that he does have feelings for her. He wouldnt put up with the endless **** otherwise. Of course I may be wrong.

I think he is a chancer, a gameplayer, a bit of a knob at times, sly when he wants to be..but deep down I think there is a deeply insecure individual who is desperate to be liked. I believe the emotion he shows when saved is genuine.

I could go on about Dexter for ages and ages, but I wanted this to be about all of the housemates so I will stop now

Gina
- My god, another that I couldnt stand when she entered. Gina never grew on me til about week 2 or 3. Whenever the task was where she drank that awful stuff. Before that I thought she was totally up herself, and a waste of a housemate as I was sure she was going to walk out. Her race-card playing was absolutely shocking. There is nothing else that could be said about that IMO. It was disgraceful and I really disliked her for it.

I still think she's stuck up. I think shes a bitch. I think she looks down on people. I think she is an utter hypocrite. But I actually like her. Its strange, normally I would hate a housemate like her, but here is actually something endearing about her. I feel she has been the most 'real'..which some will find strange as its clear her lifestory and such are lies..but I do think she has been herself, and the most consistent since the start. She is my second favourite. Fr a while she was overtaken by Hazel, and for a short while Callum too..but she has always ranked in my top 4 housemates.

I feel she was very unfair to Hazel. However I do think there was more to it than we saw.

In short, a great housemate overall. If Dexter doesn't win I would be extremely happy with Gina winning.

Twins - Just can't stand them. I feel bad for that as I do think they are nice guys deep down (or at least one of them is) but they come across to me as so smug, self entitled and bitter. Their irrational hatred towards Dexter probably doesn't help things if I am honest.

At one point I did think they were funny. I remember making a thread about one of their arguments a while back, and everyone jumped down my neck saying it was obviously fake and stuff.

I am gutted that they keep being saved first every week. I dont understand why the week I suspect they didnt have the least votes, the saves were 'in no particular' order. Emma, and BOTS bias towards them is shocking to say the least. This probably doesnt help my opinion of them. I feel they are being rammed down our throats..and we are being told we should like them because they are sweet and funny, when I just dont see that. One of them is a lot better than the other though, the bitchy twin brings him down.

I would hate if they won. I would probably throw a strop and say I wouldnt watch next year because of it

Sam - Sam is an odd one for me, because I dislike him now, but I find him entertaining. Whereas beforehand when he was rammed up callums arse and invisible, I moaned that he as boring..but he came across as a nice guy most of the time. I am extremely glad he has woken up these past few weeks. I feel he is going to win (it seems inevitable) and I would not be happy if he won after spending the whole duration in bed. At least now, he has actually done stuff.

He (like the twins) comes across as extremely bitter too most of the time. His hatred for Dexter seems irrational and I do think its down to Callum poisoning his mind. He doesnt seem to have his OWN opinion on Dexter..as about a week ago he said something in the pool with the twins about Dexter not being that bad..and the twins immediately got Sam back on the hating him bandwagon

I do not think he is as dim as he comes across. I think he is a very smart bloke. I believe the forgetting the alphabet and stuff was part of his gameplan..he had the same plan as Sophie. For some reason the voters like people who come across as thick as pig ****, so you cant blame housemates for trying the 'Im thick' angle really.

I admire the way he (now) says exactly what he thinks, even if I disagree with what he says. I just dislike the WAY he does it. He comes across as slightly aggressive at times when arguing. And he is extremely rude too. He goes on about people talking over him, yet he does the exact same thing himself. Its almost as if he thinks he should be treat differently to others..that he shouldnt be held to the same standards that he expects others to adhere to.

Having said all of this, I wouldn't mind him winning. He is actually my third fave, behind Dexter and Gina..and has been for a while now.


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So yeah, my ramblings

I'm with you about The Twins even though I don't like Dexter, The Twins have been horrible to him, I truly believe, they think they should win & the way things are going, I wouldn't be totally amazed if they do.