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Old 27-02-2014, 04:46 PM #1
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Default Single Mum with baby gets £110 a week (with video)

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£110 Maternity each week.

Her Temp housing is £70 a week
Her bills are £40 a week

She wants the best life for her baby but will
soon go to Food Banks to get food.


What Got Me Angry
No mention of a Dad?
Why the Feck is he not funding her
has he run off?


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the Dad of the child should give her money


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If the dad is out of work, I believe he only has to pay something like £5 per month

She might not know who the dad is

The dad could be avoiding the CSA...like some arseholes do
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If the dad is out of work, I believe he only has to pay something like £5 per month

She might not know who the dad is

The dad could be avoiding the CSA...like some arseholes do


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Is there a link?

If she's on Maternity leave/allowance surely her housing will be paid for her?
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Is there a link?

If she's on Maternity leave/allowance surely her housing will be paid for her?

No but I will record the interview soon and post it on this link.

Not on Ch5 News link sadly
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its getting much harder for people to get information on benefits too. the job centres are an over burocratic disaster zone. working tax credits should be simpler as its the key stepping stone to get people to work who are scared of losing all benefits
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Is there a link?

If she's on Maternity leave/allowance surely her housing will be paid for her?
If its private rented, they only pay up to a certain amount, if you chose to live somewhere more expensive then you have to make the difference up yourself

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its getting much harder for people to get information on benefits too. the job centres are an over burocratic disaster zone. working tax credits should be simpler as its the key stepping stone to get people to work who are scared of losing all benefits
They dont inform people about working tax credit or anything..which is why it seems to some that benefits are more than working. I have a friend who was struggling working fulltime and didnt know he would be entitled to nearly 80 quid a week working tax credit, which would nearly cover his rent.
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If its private rented, they only pay up to a certain amount, if you chose to live somewhere more expensive then you have to make the difference up yourself



They dont inform people about working tax credit or anything..which is why it seems to some that benefits are more than working. I have a friend who was struggling working fulltime and didnt know he would be entitled to nearly 80 quid a week working tax credit, which would nearly cover his rent.
Ah right I get you.

Thanks for the vid Arista.

I think it's ridiculous that more and more people are having to rely on food banks these days to be able to eat/feed their families.
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I think it's ridiculous that more and more people are having to rely on food banks these days to be able to eat/feed their families.
Dont forget though, people just use them because they can, not because they need to. Its nothing to do with benefit cuts, or wages going down, or anything like that apparently
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I feel safe in they knowledge that Wayne Rooney gets 300k a week playing average football for a team that will win hee-haw this season
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They dont inform people about working tax credit or anything..which is why it seems to some that benefits are more than working. I have a friend who was struggling working fulltime and didnt know he would be entitled to nearly 80 quid a week working tax credit, which would nearly cover his rent.
I rent privately and when i was out of work they covered all my rent. But it's a one bedroom flat.
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The dad could be avoiding the CSA...like some arseholes do
Yes, this is a major problem and apparently there's very little they can do about it. My (4 year old) daughter's best friend's mum is a single mother and the dad has been awful. He hasn't paid a penny in child support even though the CSA have been involved since the beginning - and his facebook is wide open, she can see that he's definitely working. He's self employed and isn't declaring his earnings, so he doesn't have to pay any CSA at all. Supposedly, they throw the book at people for tax avoidance... but she's reported him several times and has basically been told that there's nothing they can do about it.
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Rachel Reeves is my MP in Leeds west, she works regularly at our local food bank.
It is a shame ending up a lone parent it's not something that's in your life plan that's for sure.
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If its private rented, they only pay up to a certain amount, if you chose to live somewhere more expensive then you have to make the difference up yourself



They dont inform people about working tax credit or anything..which is why it seems to some that benefits are more than working. I have a friend who was struggling working fulltime and didnt know he would be entitled to nearly 80 quid a week working tax credit, which would nearly cover his rent.
its deliberately made impossible,,,,,theres no local telephone numbers either
all this backfires because it means those on benefits are too scared to go back to work and also without working tax credits theyre losing so much money it doesnt pay to go back to work
as usual the usual politicians and wasteful councillors who are to blame for this fiasco
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Not sure what the point of this thread is, are we saying this woman is not receiving enough benefit or is it too much ?

Father is long gone, probably only a teenager himself so no real financial support possible.

Situation is common across the UK , I feel sorry for the child what a great start in life he/she will have...!!!
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[QUOTE=arista;6734717]From Ch5HD News

£110 Maternity each week.

Her Temp housing is £70 a week
Her bills are £40 a week

She wants the best life for her baby but will
soon go to Food Banks to get food.


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No mention of a Dad?
Why the Feck is he not funding her
has he run off?


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men who don't pay child support should have their dicks chopped off. you'd see a lot more men supporting their children then, and prevent potential future children from suffering the same deadbeat dads.
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Yes, this is a major problem and apparently there's very little they can do about it. My (4 year old) daughter's best friend's mum is a single mother and the dad has been awful. He hasn't paid a penny in child support even though the CSA have been involved since the beginning - and his facebook is wide open, she can see that he's definitely working. He's self employed and isn't declaring his earnings, so he doesn't have to pay any CSA at all. Supposedly, they throw the book at people for tax avoidance... but she's reported him several times and has basically been told that there's nothing they can do about it.
I don't get this, because the CSA just take it straight out of the fathers salary at the same his other stoppages are taken. There is something she's not telling you, because the CSA don't mess around, they just take it.
 
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I don't get this, because the CSA just take it straight out of the fathers salary at the same his other stoppages are taken. There is something she's not telling you, because the CSA don't mess around, they just take it.
The father is self employed so has no salary as such for them to take it from.
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The father is self employed so has no salary as such for them to take it from.
He doesn't work for free though, so there will always be a way of tracking his money. If the tax people can do it, then so can the CSA.

I'm also self employed, and my money is traceable (unfortunately).
 
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He doesn't work for free though, so there will always be a way of tracking his money. If the tax people can do it, then so can the CSA.

I'm also self employed, and my money is traceable (unfortunately).
But it isn't as simple as an attachment of earnings that you can do with PAYE.

Also, it depends what he declares surely. You're self employed and no doubt complete accounts but if he is self employed taking cash in hand payments it isn't as easy - plus it says she has reported him for tax avoidance but nothing has been done?
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But it isn't as simple as an attachment of earnings that you can do with PAYE.

Also, it depends what he declares surely. You're self employed and no doubt complete accounts but if he is self employed taking cash in hand payments it isn't as easy - plus it says she has reported him for tax avoidance but nothing has been done?
If he is doing cash in hand work then yes that could be a problem, but you can't just go through life not declaring earnings without anyone questioning you. If he's putting through small amounts, then he'll have to justify and prove that it's all bove board. If he can't, he'll get hit with a calculated invoice.

I've never known the tax office be so blase about potentially catching someone who is known as a tax avoider.
 
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I don't get this, because the CSA just take it straight out of the fathers salary at the same his other stoppages are taken. There is something she's not telling you, because the CSA don't mess around, they just take it.
The CSA actually do mess around, for months and months at a time with some people then when they do sort out payments they randomly stop them a month or so down the line without knowing why when contacted about it.

I know a few people this has happened to more than once, my sister in law being one of them, her little girls dad hasn't paid a penny since she was 6 months old, she's almost 4 now and they have been contacted a lot and told exactly where he was working but apparently there 'was nothing they could do about it atm'

My sisters ex husband pays his through his wages every week and it randomly stops every few months, it actually still comes off of his wage but doesn't go to my sister, the CSA don't know why this randomly happens then when they finally sort it out they don't give it all back straight away they give her an extra £2 quid a week on top of her normal payments until it's up to date.

So yes, they do mess about, a lot, I know they never used to but that's changed these days.
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If he is doing cash in hand work then yes that could be a problem, but you can't just go through life not declaring earnings without anyone questioning you. If he's putting through small amounts, then he'll have to justify and prove that it's all bove board. If he can't, he'll get hit with a calculated invoice.

I've never known the tax office be so blase about potentially catching someone who is known as a tax avoider.
You'd be surprised! I actually know of loads of people who don't declare a penny and realistically don't "exist". Cash in hand, no bank accounts etc and have done all there lives.
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