[Josy]

I like Ash and don't think of him as boring but...

Lots of people from the start have labelled him as one of the 'bores' yet he does something that dominates the highlights and they want him evicted?

I don't get it, so if your boring in there you are hated for it and if you are involved on one of the main rows of the show so far people campaign to get you evicted..

Opinions?

[Shaun]

I don't think being on the receiving end of hurricane Toya really counts as "doing something"

[Samm]

Only Toya made him relevant without Toya he would be boring

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Shaun

I don't think being on the receiving end of hurricane Toya really counts as "doing something"

He stood up to her first though if he hadn't then the first row wouldn't have happened.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by ~Sam~

Only Toya made him relevant without Toya he would be boring

So you are saying he's not boring now?

[Jack_]

Well I could say the same thing about Toya, Pauline, Helen etc...they do things that dominate the highlights and people want them evicted?

Anyway first of all he was a bore up until Toya gave him a role (which I'm glad about btw) but secondly this is precisely the problem with vote to evict - you have to campaign to evict emerging characters or people that are developing a storyline in order to save your favourites, it's so counterproductive. Toya fans have to target him because he's one of the most likely to go after her when in reality it'd be for the best of everyone if someone like Winston (who is just there and offers nothing to the show at all) left. Vote to evict just means that anyone who opens their mouth and dares to contribute something to the show is targeted and is at risk of being evicted while anyone that fades into the background remains safe. It makes no sense whatsoever

I would rather he didn't leave because I'd like to see the feud with Toya develop, but it's not like we have much choice with such a detrimental system is it?

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by Josy

He stood up to her first though if he hadn't then the first row wouldn't have happened.

Well, 'first', he fist-bumped her and seemed OK with the situation... it wasn't until she went all full-CALM DOWN EVERYONE I HAVE TO SPEAK-mode he took part

[Headie]

Originally Posted by Josy

I like Ash and don't think of him as boring but...

Lots of people from the start have labelled him as one of the 'bores' yet he does something that dominates the highlights and they want him evicted?

I don't get it, so if your boring in there you are hated for it and if you are involved on one of the main rows of the show so far people campaign to get you evicted..

Opinions?

Josy... you constantly hate on Pauline, Toya, Helen etc and then whenever anyone says this to you you just say "everyone has different views of entertainment".

Toya is the most 'active' in the house (if you wanna put it that way) so going by your logic she should be the favourite to win. I agree with you but you need to practice what you preach.

[Josy]

I don't have a problem with vote to evict.

I do have a problem with certain housemates being labelled boring then if they aren't boring being evicted

[Samm]

Originally Posted by Josy

So you are saying he's not boring now?

No, I'm saying Toya made him relevant but he is a bore

[Marsh.]

Get the Cliche Catchphrase Copier Out!!!

[starry]

He's a real idiot, BB explained the twist after nominations very clearly and the idiot still didn't get it Unfortunately in vote to evict the stupid ones who the teens like such as him and Winston are likely to go far and get the support of the producers.

[Headie]

Originally Posted by Josy

I don't have a problem with vote to evict.

I do have a problem with certain housemates being labelled boring then if they aren't boring being evicted

That's basically Vote To Evict though, if you even do something slightly out of the ordinary you get a ton of votes to evict, whereas if it was VTS you'd get votes for exactly that reason.

[smeagol]

everytime i see him he is laying down. he didn't even argue properly he was more interested in why he was up and kim wasn't and how can anyone do this to me lol

all he cares about is himself. he think he is it yet all he does is bum sniff the house bike

any guy who struts about dont care about other people and isnt interested in them and thinks he shouldnt be up. is a bore he doesn't mingle he is stuck to helen like a sticky condom

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Well I could say the same thing about Toya, Pauline, Helen etc...they do things that dominate the highlights and people want them evicted?

Anyway first of all he was a bore up until Toya gave him a role (which I'm glad about btw) but secondly this is precisely the problem with vote to evict - you have to campaign to evict emerging characters or people that are developing a storyline in order to save your favourites, it's so counterproductive. Toya fans have to target him because he's one of the most likely to go after her when in reality it'd be for the best of everyone if someone like Winston (who is just there and offers nothing to the show at all) left. Vote to evict just means that anyone who opens their mouth and dares to contribute something to the show is targeted and is at risk of being evicted while anyone that fades into the background remains safe. It makes no sense whatsoever

I would rather he didn't leave because I'd like to see the feud with Toya develop, but it's not like we have much choice with such a detrimental system is it?

Sadly this is 100% correct.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Hayden

Josy... you constantly hate on Pauline, Toya, Helen etc and then whenever anyone says this to you you just say "everyone has different views of entertainment".

Toya is the most 'active' in the house (if you wanna put it that way) so going by your logic she should be the favourite to win. I agree with you but you need to practice what you preach.

Hayden for a start stop trying to make the thread about me rather than the topic of the OP.

Secondly I know I say people have different views of what's entertaining because that's what I believe? hence the reason I said at the start I don't find Ash boring? I like him?

My question was why are some hated for being 'boring' then evicted for being 'not boring'..

And the threads not about Toya but she has never been labelled 'boring' as far as I know? so the bit you added in about her is pointless..

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Shaun

Well, 'first', he fist-bumped her and seemed OK with the situation... it wasn't until she went all full-CALM DOWN EVERYONE I HAVE TO SPEAK-mode he took part

Tbf for that type of Housemate he should get credit for actually taking part.

[Headie]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Well I could say the same thing about Toya, Pauline, Helen etc...they do things that dominate the highlights and people want them evicted?

Anyway first of all he was a bore up until Toya gave him a role (which I'm glad about btw) but secondly this is precisely the problem with vote to evict - you have to campaign to evict emerging characters or people that are developing a storyline in order to save your favourites, it's so counterproductive. Toya fans have to target him because he's one of the most likely to go after her when in reality it'd be for the best of everyone if someone like Winston (who is just there and offers nothing to the show at all) left. Vote to evict just means that anyone who opens their mouth and dares to contribute something to the show is targeted and is at risk of being evicted while anyone that fades into the background remains safe. It makes no sense whatsoever

I would rather he didn't leave because I'd like to see the feud with Toya develop, but it's not like we have much choice with such a detrimental system is it?

This needs to be sent to Ben Frow, someone email him it.

[Daffodil]

Yes Ash is boring. I swear to God I would be banging my head on the table after one hour in his company.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Hayden

You said "I don't get it" implying that the people who disagree with you are wrong.

And I'm just stating it how it is. Ash is boring in most people eyes and has only become a slight bit interesting because of Toya.

What on earth? how do you even come to that conclusion from 'I don't get it?'

I said I don't get it because I don't...wasn't implying anything about people that disagreed.

[Samm]

What is Ben frow's email

[Marsh.]

People don't have to "do something" to get evicted.

They have to be raving bitches who monopolise everything to get evicted. That's a very specific something.

[Headie]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

People don't have to "do something" to get evicted.

They have to be raving bitches who monopolise everything to get evicted. That's a very specific something.

Yes, Tamara was such a raving bitch...

[arista]

Originally Posted by Daffodil

Yes Ash is boring. I swear to God I would be banging my head on the table after one hour in his company.

We have not seen him enough

[Macie Lightfoot]

Ash is a boring **** and being one of the (many) victims of #HurricaneToya doesn't change that. The night was all about Toya. Her veto decisions lit a match and she's just burning that house down to the ground on her way out. I know this is a forum that values ~talking points~ more than anything and by now you guys all know how much I disagree with that, but what talking points does Ash even provide? He called Toya a prick, she flipped out and screeched about how she revealed everyone's true colors as she intended to, she moved HERSELF to near tears with her impassioned DR speech about the responsibility of being the power housemate, she went mad with power. Just because Ash was on the receiving end on her most volatile night doesn't automatically make him entertaining or valuable. Not at all. And if you think he's necessary to keep around for Toya to have someone to lash out at... so far she's lashed out at Jale, Christopher, Matthew, Marlon, Winston, and Ash, and she's been smearing Kimberly's name left and right and probably would've lashed out at her last night if she wasn't so distracted by those three idiot boys last night. Ash could pretty much be a mannequin doll at Toya would still lash out at him, it doesn't take much to piss her off. He's useless.