[the truth]

How would the world look?

better or worse?

[JoshBB]

Not sure actually. A very good question. I actually have no clue

[the truth]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

Not sure actually. A very good question. I actually have no clue

maybe a better easier way to imagine it is if America became self reliant on energy and oil and left the middle east oil alone. and they in fact decided they didn't want to or need to involve themselves in middle eastern politics anymore and left it all to the united nations?

[Denver]

Well stuff like this wouldn't exist

[Glenn.]

We wouldn't have Disney World

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by the truth

maybe a better easier way to imagine it is if America became self reliant on energy and oil and left the middle east oil alone. and they in fact decided they didn't want to or need to involve themselves in middle eastern politics anymore and left it all to the united nations?

In that sense, probably a lot better. ISIS would also be nowhere near as powerful if they never got involved, the same with us.

[user104658]

Hmmmm but America as it is today would never have existed without colonialism and the British empire. So really what you're asking is, would the world have been better without Britain? But it goes further back than that still.

The correct answer is, the world would have been better without agriculture which had the double effect of allowing human populations to boom horribly out of control, and also resulted in a small elite of global landowners manipulating absolutely everyone else into a form of survival-slavery.

Tl;dr - the world would have been better without people.

[the truth]

America is way past what Britain ever was....we exploited our ships to exploit the seas at a moment in time....America has army camps and financial interests in every tiny corner of the globe, they're building an empire for the next 1000 years

[Nedusa]

What a good question, America has played a major role in the World and was until recently a shining beacon for good, but that point in time is long gone and in fact you could argue that what now masquerades as "America" is in fact a corrupt Corporatocracy.

The American political process is among the most corrupt in the world. In every country on earth, one expects politicians to take bribes from the rich. But this generally happens in secret, behind the closed doors of their elite clubs. In the United States, this sort of political corruption is done in broad daylight, as part of legal, accepted, standard operating procedure. In the United States, they merely call these bribes campaign donations, political action committees and lobbyists. One can no more expect the politicians to change this system than one can expect a man to take an axe and chop his own legs out from underneath him.

No, the United States of America is not going to change for the better. The only change will be for the worse. And when I say worse, I mean much worse. As we speak, the economic system that sustained the country during the post-war years is collapsing. The United States maxed out its “credit card” sometime in 2008 and now its lenders, starting with China, are in the process of laying the foundations for a new monetary system to replace the Anglo-American “petro-dollar” system. As soon as there is a viable alternative to the US dollar, the greenback will sink like a stone.

While the United States was running up crushing levels of debt, it was also busy shipping its manufacturing jobs and white-collar jobs overseas, and letting its infrastructure fall to pieces. Meanwhile, Asian and European countries were investing in education, infrastructure and raw materials. Even if the United States tried to rebuild a real economy (as opposed to a service/financial economy) do think American workers would ever be able to compete with the workers of China or Europe? Have you ever seen a Japanese or German factory? Have you ever met a Singaporean or Chinese worker?

There are only two possible futures facing the United States, and neither one is pretty. The best case is a slow but orderly decline – essentially a continuation of what’s been happening for the last two decades. Wages will drop, unemployment will rise, Medicare and Social Security benefits will be slashed, the currency will decline in value, and the disparity of wealth will spiral out of control until the United States starts to resemble Mexico or the Philippines – tiny islands of wealth surrounded by great poverty (the country is already halfway there).

Equally likely is a sudden collapse, perhaps brought about by a rapid flight from the US dollar by creditor nations like China, Japan, Korea and the OPEC nations. A related possibility would be a default by the United States government on its vast debt. One look at the financial balance sheet of the US government should convince you how likely this is: governmental spending is skyrocketing and tax receipts are plummeting – something has to give. If either of these scenarios plays out, the resulting depression will make the present recession look like a walk in the park.

I think the World order is changing and not before time, America is rotten to the core and needs to be quickly put out of it's misery.

[arista]

Originally Posted by the truth

How would the world look?

better or worse?

Better

[arista]

Originally Posted by Quasar

We wouldn't have Disney World

Yes you Fecking Would


PARIS

[arista]

Originally Posted by adamski94

Well stuff like this wouldn't exist

Yes in China

[arista]

Originally Posted by the truth

America is way past what Britain ever was....we exploited our ships to exploit the seas at a moment in time....America has army camps and financial interests in every tiny corner of the globe, they're building an empire for the next 1000 years

Yes so infact if the whole of USA
had Nukes in a Van
all going off at the same time.

They are still in other places (they would work out there Germany USA Army Base )
so with data from space after 4 weeks they
would track who was in America inside each van
(some could be Americans under outside orders)

[Kazanne]

I LOVE America,but I do and have always thought,when this world comes to an end,America will be at the forefront of that happening,I hope I am wrong as I love it so much,would love to live there one day,but even I can see America needs to back off on some things.

[Kizzy]

If you lived in America it would be a lot worse.

[joeysteele]

The USA gets things wrong just as all Nations do.
The world without America would be unthinkable for me.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes you Fecking Would


PARIS

The ORIGINAL park was built in CALIFORNIA, AMERICA.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

If you lived in America it would be a lot worse.

I did live there for a year Kizzy,I loved it,but as I said it was only a year and times didn't seem so volatile then.

[bots]

if america were to disappear today leaving a void it would be missed of course. However, everything always moves toward a balance, an equilibrium. In a few years time, we would reach another equilibrium and we wouldn't care less that America ever existed.

[Calderyon]

I´m quite critical about US, but tbf, without them many good things would have been made. But then again, without us Europeans there wouldn´t be US. (in the same form i mean)

[letmein]

We are blessed to have the existence of the United States. It ain't going anywhere. Thread over.

[the truth]

IF the west left the middle east alone ..........would they find peace?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by the truth

IF the west left the middle east alone ..........would they find peace?

Impossible to know really. We've been pissing around in the middle east since the crusades.

However, the fact that nowhere else on earth has managed to find peace makes it seem unlikely.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Quasar

The ORIGINAL park was built in CALIFORNIA, AMERICA.

Sure
But with USA Nuked


You could go to Paris Disney

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I did live there for a year Kizzy,I loved it,but as I said it was only a year and times didn't seem so volatile then.

No, I mean if America didn't exist it would be pretty bad if you lived there...you wouldn't exist