[JoshBB]

They also released this video yesterday

Youtube video

So far I am far more convinced by the pro-EU side than the eurosceptics.

[bots]

the status quo is that we are in europe, its going to be very difficult for an out campaign to fight against that. They don't seem to have gotten off to a very good start by having 2 No campaigns ... its so crazy .. I couldn't have thought that one up How long will it be till they are arguing against each other

[Crimson Dynamo]

so I got 40 seconds in and

1. I dont want people who work or own companies telling me what to do, I would rather hear what they say when they are not getting paid and simply talking about their profits.

2. zzzzzzz leave europe and it could be bad for business


3. there seems to be some assumption by the wooden biz people that if we left the EU we then cant trade with europe?

[bots]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

so I got 40 seconds in and

1. I dont want people who work or own companies telling me what to do, I would rather hear what they say when they are not getting paid and simply talking about their profits.

2. zzzzzzz leave europe and it could be bad for business


3. there seems to be some assumption by the wooden biz people that if we left the EU we then cant trade with europe?

Rather dismissive view points you have there, thats not going to encourage an Out vote. Its up to the out campaigns to re-assure the voters that they will be better off out of europe, and it will need to be done using more compelling arguments than thinly veiled racism

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Rather dismissive view points you have there, thats not going to encourage an Out vote. Its up to the out campaigns to re-assure the voters that they will be better off out of europe, and it will need to be done using more compelling arguments than thinly veiled racism

they have no chance
fear and laziness will win

[arista]

No we want to Re Join the World


Feck €

We can trade direct with India
withouht Europe putting orders at the back of the Que
Motha Feckers

[joeysteele]

I still consider this referendum a waste of time but potentially dangerous too for the UK, a panic knee jerk reaction by David Cameron as to the rise of UKIP.

I made my mind up at 15 that I felt we were better off in the EU and nothing has changed my mind.


I doubt, even if I was undecided that I would learn anything really helpful from the media, this govt or either of the campaigns to keep us in or suggest we leave.

The real information needed to make an informed and best decision for the UK will not be given to voters.
Mind you, Karen Brady will be in my view a massive turn off for the in campaign.

[Northern Monkey]

Well,That did'nt actually tell me anything i did'nt already know.So far unimpressed.Let's hope we actually get some imformation on the subject soon.Nothing in that vid convinced me that it's better to stay in.

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I still consider this referendum a waste of time but potentially dangerous too for the UK, a panic knee jerk reaction by David Cameron as to the rise of UKIP.

I made my mind up at 15 that I felt we were better off in the EU and nothing has changed my mind.


I doubt, even if I was undecided that I would learn anything really helpful from the media, this govt or either of the campaigns to keep us in or suggest we leave.

The real information needed to make an informed and best decision for the UK will not be given to voters.
Mind you, Karen Brady will be in my view a massive turn off for the in campaign.

No Joey
Not if we Get out that that Mess


How Dare You

[Kizzy]

The campaign is as dumbed down as the 'Och I'm a silly female and can't be worrying about independence' one.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

No Joey
Not if we Get out that that Mess


How Dare You

Ooh I dare very easily, I will never be a little Englander and seek to isolate the UK.

Neither do I see the EU as a mess, it needs reform absolutely, from all members within it however not whining on and picking up our ball up and running off pathetically, under the delusion we are still a really great power and need no one.

I hope we get a very strong yes vote.

[Kizzy]

Who do we need more than the rest of Europe ... China?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Who do we need more than the rest of Europe ... China?

India
Australia Direct - Not via EU Rules
China


Loads of nations


And we can still trade with Europe
but not waste Billions
charge for being in the Fecking Corrupt Un Level Mess

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Ooh I dare very easily, I will never be a little Englander and seek to isolate the UK from.

Neither do I see the EU as a mess, it needs reform absolutely, from all members within it however not whining on and picking up our ball up and running off pathetically, under the delusion we are still a really great power and need no one.

I hope we get a very strong yes vote.

No its not Isolate
its Re Joining the World


ask your Dad

[Kizzy]

Wouldn't dads be the ones who wanted in in the first place?...

[JoshBB]

Also is it known yet whether or not 16 year olds can vote in this referendum??

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Wouldn't dads be the ones who wanted in in the first place?...

Yes back the Days of a more fair Common Market


But Now we have Gravy Train
charging
Holding Back Orders.

I look Forward to propper debates
in HD TV
as we are not getting proper debates yet
its just one side.



Rock On Ch4NewsHD 7pm

[Northern Monkey]

Why do people have this impression that we won't be able to trade with European country's if we're not in the EU?Do people honestly think that BMW and Volkwagen will want to stop selling us their cars if we leave?Of course not.They NEED our trade.Life will carry on as it is except we will be trading with non EU countries too and we will save ourselves Ł55 million PER DAY of tax money which can be put to something actually useful.
We will have control of our borders,Our laws,Our courts,Our military etc....
Our decisions will be democratic rather than being made by an UNELECTED EU commision.

[Kizzy]

It'll just be the usual scaremongering I don't think they bother with any actual genuine information.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Why do people have this impression that we won't be able to trade with European country's if we're not in the EU?Do people honestly think that BMW and Volkwagen will want to stop selling us their cars if we leave?Of course not.They NEED our trade.Life will carry on as it is except we will be trading with non EU countries too and we will save ourselves Ł55 million PER DAY of tax money which can be put to something actually useful.
We will have control of our borders,Our laws,Our courts,Our military etc....
Our decisions will be democratic rather than being made by an UNELECTED EU commision.

Will we... Many moan about Eastern Europeans freedom of movement, how would some feel with freedom of trade and movement with the rest of the world?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

It'll just be the usual scaremongering I don't think they bother with any actual genuine information.

Not with Jon Snow

or Eamon Holmes in charge

Ref : SkyNewsHD and Ch4HD News

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Will we... Many moan about Eastern Europeans freedom of movement, how would some feel with freedom of trade and movement with the rest of the world?

I think it's more about the numbers.We could take people in from those countries that really need it.More refugees and people from really poor countries but we could actually control how many we take in.We would more than likely take in more people who really need our help.Eastern Europe although it is a poorer part of the world than Western Europe there are countries in a much much worse state.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

so I got 40 seconds in and

1. I dont want people who work or own companies telling me what to do, I would rather hear what they say when they are not getting paid and simply talking about their profits.

2. zzzzzzz leave europe and it could be bad for business


3. there seems to be some assumption by the wooden biz people that if we left the EU we then cant trade with europe?

It's no coincidence (I daren't say synchronisity ) that the intials for Britain Stronger In Europe are B.S.I.E or B.S For Example.

Get Us Out.

[Crimson Dynamo]

When I need advice about politics I look to Karen Brady who was given her career on a plate by David Sullivan and got in that position via nepotism

[Livia]

Norway isn't in the EU but they trade with Europe with exports to the tune of about 100 billion Euros a year. The assumption that we wouldn't trade with the EU if we were not part of it is ridiculous. In any case, we already do more trade with non-European countries.