[xkatex]

Did anyone else feel sorry for him last night when Tracey said to him 'Billy is watching Chanelle' he looked really upset. Then when he started to question whether he thought he could be with her because of the age gap. I personally think he can do better than her she's just a player I really don't think she's that into him anymore not since Billy's walked in anyway.

[Taijitu]

Yeah same here only what is on my mind is why the two are still in after talking about leaving together? I feel whatever their feelings are upmost on their minds is still the show and the publicity when they come out.

Ziggy said all that is keeping him in the house is Channelle, does that mean he will walk the second he feels it wont work out between them?

[GlitterEyes]

I think Ziggy is being played by Chanelle...he has said several times about meeting up outside and getting together to see how things go outside bb and Chanelle has shown no interest at all. Chanelle is a nasty peice of work and poor Ziggy is falling under her spell. I don't see how Ziggy is being played as the bad guy and everyone seems to be loving Chanelle.

[J.C.]

Channelle has been giving him all the 'cool it' signs and I think Ziggy has only brought up the age thing because he is saving face before channelle dumps him.
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't her knickers say 'I'm Single' on them. The ones she paraded about in before having a swim with Billi and co.

I feel for Ziggy in one sense but they got it together too quickly and as I once posted I always felt that it was a very bad game plan, especially in a house full of woman.

[the_chosen_one]

It's his own fault, entirely. He came in looking to 'play' someone, and he walked straight into the trap of a better 'player'.

He's only got himself to blame.

[xkatex]

I don't think he went in there to play anyone at all, he fell for Chanelle and we thought she'd done the same then as soon as Billy walks in she doesn't care about Ziggy. Today I watched some of it live and Ziggy was lying down in the bedroom Chanelle and Billy were eating together at the table then Ziggy came to get some food he looked over at Chanelle and she gave him a funny look (didn't speak to him at all) then carried on eating. I wish Ziggy would just act like he's not interested anyone she wouldn't like it then.

[J.C.]

Originally posted by the_chosen_one
It's his own fault, entirely. He came in looking to 'play' someone, and he walked straight into the trap of a better 'player'.

He's only got himself to blame.

Lol, and so true. His first reaction to her cool it sign was to try and reassure her, but now he has fully twigged he has started to bring up the age difference to save himself in the forthcoming situation.
It's going to happen as Billi 'the macheavelian' has already made clear of his total dislike of ziggy, who he conveniently considers to be arrogant.

[Taijitu]

If he is just playing the game he is playing it really really well.

[GlitterEyes]

I think what he said on his vt about playing people is not actually the real him. I think he really likes Chanelle and it is getting in the way of him seeing her for what she actually is...a manipulative, cunning, gameplayer. I really hope Ziggy wises up or they add in another mature female around Ziggys age then we could see what happens. Chanelle has never really liked Ziggy and is only using him for her own gain when it suits her. He needs to see past her chest and realise that she is playing him. It is smart gameplay from Chanelle but she needs to realise that we see it all and to win she needs the public on side also.

[the_chosen_one]

Originally posted by GlitterEyes
I think what he said on his vt about playing people is not actually the real him.

I don't recall anything he said in his VT, but he's proved, since he came into the house, that playing people is the real him.

Here's a few examples of who he's 'played games' (be blatantly insincere and manipulative) with:

Chanelle
Emily
Laura
Nicky
The Audience

I would expect there's more.