[Kate!]

Public Poll incoming.

[Cherie]

Lisa Nandy

[Kate!]

Either Andy or Lisa

[Cherie]

Michael Gove? that would be an interesting choice

[The Slim Reaper]

Dawn Butler is probably the best I can hope for, but I can be fairly certain already that wes streeting will get it easily.

[bots]

donald trump

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

donald trump

[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

donald trump

No
He likes USA better

[Oliver_W]

Out of everyone who's "plausible" I'd say Nandy.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Out of everyone who's "plausible" I'd say Nandy.

No, not experienced as Andy Burnham

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Dawn Butler is probably the best I can hope for, but I can be fairly certain already that wes streeting will get it easily.

Dawn Butler would get the Diane Abbot treatment, there's literally no point. But whoever takes over will be slated. Like I said Labour is like the Lib Dems, they've become a party people don't want to listen to anymore.. with except to the loyal labour supporters.

[Liam-]

Raynor, obvs, I’d take a shock Diane Abbot takeover though

[Crimson Dynamo]

Lisa Nandos

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Dawn Butler would get the Diane Abbot treatment, there's literally no point.

Butler is a bit more coherent and less gaffe-prone than Abbott. I don't think she's a good choice, but she's certainly no Abbott.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Dawn Butler would get the Diane Abbot treatment, there's literally no point. But whoever takes over will be slated. Like I said Labour is like the Lib Dems, they've become a party people don't want to listen to anymore.. with except to the loyal labour supporters.

They tried pandering to the right/centrists by taking Corbyn down, they've tried pandering to right wing media by sucking up to Murdoch and writing for the sun. Hopefully they may realise that standing on your principles and offering something different should be the way forward, rather than trying to out-tory the tories. Otherwise, allowing people with zero interest in a labour victory, to choose their leader every election cycle will continue backfire in the same manner.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by arista

No, not experienced as Andy Burnham

If it's based.purely on experience, may as well skip any discussion and just give it to the oldest

[arista]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

If it's based.purely on experience, may as well skip any discussion and just give it to the oldest

No, as some older MP's are twisted

[Swan]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Dawn Butler is probably the best I can hope for, but I can be fairly certain already that wes streeting will get it easily.

Labour would get my vote is he does.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Swan

Labour would get my vote is he does.

Why vote for another tory when you have a whole party of them across the aisle?

[Swan]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Why vote for another tory when you have a whole party of them across the aisle?

He's not a Tory Slim don't be ridiculous, he's a true Left Centre. He doesn't pander to the hard left, and he's certainly not anything like an actual Tory. His fundamentals are sound, and he'll add some much needed balance to this current messed up political landscape.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Swan

He's not a Tory Slim don't be ridiculous, he's a true Left Centre. He doesn't pander to the hard left, and he's certainly not anything like an actual Tory. His fundamentals are sound, and he'll add some much needed balance to this current messed up political landscape.

Even if that's true , he'll have a hard job convincing people. Might seem pessimistic but I just don't have alot of hope for labour. This country will always be run by hardcore Tory's .

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Swan

He's not a Tory Slim don't be ridiculous, he's a true Left Centre. He doesn't pander to the hard left, and he's certainly not anything like an actual Tory. His fundamentals are sound, and he'll add some much needed balance to this current messed up political landscape.

He admitted not even campaigning for labour at the last election, and he has a history of working against previous leaders and labour policies. The whole discussion is irrelevant anyway as no way will the rozzers get involved in removing the loto. If you like streeting, then you should really like starmer.

[Swan]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

He admitted not even campaigning for labour at the last election, and he has a history of working against previous leaders and labour policies. The whole discussion is irrelevant anyway as no way will the rozzers get involved in removing the loto. If you like streeting, then you should really like starmer.

Nah, Starmer has no backbone. Streeting was disheartened with the way in which Labour was headed. He was right, look at the state of Labour now.

[Liam-]

Tbf to Starmer he’s properly snookered the Tories now hasn’t he, either he doesn’t get fined and he gets proven to be sound for properly following the rules and the Tories and their pals in the press look like the petty, vindictive finger pointers they are, or he somehow gets a fine and steps down, he proves to have more honour and integrity in his little finger than the entire government put together and it’ll throw into question why they didn’t fine Boris’ pet Cummings retrospectively when he very clearly broke the rules too

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Even if that's true , he'll have a hard job convincing people. Might seem pessimistic but I just don't have alot of hope for labour. This country will always be run by hardcore Tory's .

Well it depends on people's attitudes. If they are apathetic and don't vote, then Labour will never get in. Support your party and put your cross in the box. It just might make a difference.