[Denver]

He is best known for his leading role in Sex Education

[Lewismacfarlane]

Am I right in thinking first black doctor

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Lewismacfarlane

Am I right in thinking first black doctor

No, Jo Martin holds that role but he is the first black actor in the main role as Jo played a former Doctor

[Christmas Dynasnow]

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Tbf it's best to give him a chance.

I agree that the casting looks like another political move from the Show, but if he delivers a good performance, and this time the writers actually come up with interesting plots (and I don't mean talking about BLM 24/7) where he has big adventures on other planets with interesting antagonists, then I don't see why anyone would have an issue here.

Because in fairness all Jodie needed was for Chignall to come up with fun concepts.

[Liam-]

As someone who’s only seen the first season of sex education, this seems a bit of a... random choice, but he’s a pretty decent actor from what I’ve seen.

GBnews are gonna be frantic, first a woman, now a black man? Their viewers are gonna have kittens

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Liam-

As someone who’s only seen the first season of sex education, this seems a bit of a... random choice, but he’s a pretty decent actor from what I’ve seen.

GBnews are gonna be frantic, first a woman, now a black man? Their viewers are gonna have kittens

No they won't they will tune out. Like they did when Jodie Whittaker became the Doctor. Then you and half a dozen others will be able to tune in all on your own. Till it's cancelled, of course.

[Greg!]

Originally Posted by Livia

No they won't they will tune out. Like they did when Jodie Whittaker became the Doctor. Then you and half a dozen others will be able to tune in all on your own. Till it's cancelled, of course.

Jodie's first episodes had some of the highest ratings in the show's history. People tuned out because the writing was crap, not because she's a woman.

Hopefully with RTD back at the helm as showrunner it can be restored back to the glory days

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Greg!

Jodie's first episodes had some of the highest ratings in the show's history. People tuned out because the writing was crap, not because she's a woman.

Hopefully with RTD back at the helm as showrunner it can be restored back to the glory days

You have NO WAY of knowing that. No way at all.

NO way is a black doctor taking anything back to the glory days.

[Greg!]

Originally Posted by Livia

You have NO WAY of knowing that. No way at all.

NO way is a black doctor taking anything back to the glory days.

I mean, no one has any way of knowing anything really if you want to get deep about it. It’s my opinion. A widely held opinion among fans of Doctor Who though, and evidenced by the originally high ratings which I mentioned.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Yes it is not quality it was
when London was Bombed on an Episode "World War Three"
with Christopher Eccleston
a Great Actor.

[Greg!]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

This graph is from the original series which began in 1963. So your point is..?

[Jordan.]

Love this, I will be tuning in!

[user104658]

I actually think he'll be good, he has the right energy to go back to the Tennant/Smith days. SURELY people can't kick off about him being black... I know they will... but there's zero justification.

In terms of sexuality, so long as they remember that The Doctor is quite clearly established (going back as far as Eccleson) as being bi or "pan" and they don't suddenly make the character gay (which would make no sense, because of Rose + River Song) there's not problem with his persona either which is, admittedly, quite camp in Sex Ed.

That said, I wouldn't exactly call Tennant or Smith "butch" .


My ONLY concern would be whether or not he'll be able to capture the character's angry/dark side, and that duality is important.

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I actually think he'll be good, he has the right energy to go back to the Tennant/Smith days. SURELY people can't kick off about him being black... I know they will... but there's zero justification.

In terms of sexuality, so long as they remember that The Doctor is quite clearly established (going back as far as Eccleson) as being bi or "pan" and they don't suddenly make the character gay (which would make no sense, because of Rose + River Song) there's not problem with his persona either which is, admittedly, quite camp in Sex Ed.

That said, I wouldn't exactly call Tennant or Smith "butch" .


My ONLY concern would be whether or not he'll be able to capture the character's angry/dark side, and that duality is important.

Have I missed something ? .. when was the doctor ever bi or pans ?? . Granted I haven't watched it for a good few seasons though.

Anyway It's cool & interesting that it's finally a black actor, but I have a feeling they'll change the character too much ,to the point where it doesn't feel like the doctor anymore.

Tennant and Smith were just eccentric / flamboyant. Tennant will always be my favourite doctor. They both reminded me of energetic scientists. But I always thought Matt Smith's doctor acted alot more sillier .

[Oliver_W]

Not heard of him, never seen Sex Education, am I right in thinking it's comedic? That could be advantageous.

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

In terms of sexuality, so long as they remember that The Doctor is quite clearly established (going back as far as Eccleson) as being bi or "pan" and they don't suddenly make the character gay (which would make no sense, because of Rose + River Song) there's not problem with his persona either which is, admittedly, quite camp in Sex Ed.

Is the actor gay then? Stuff like that shouldn't inform how a character is written, unless they're unmistakably flaming.
That said, isn't RTD one of those, who keeps karping on about how only gay people should get to play gay characters? Maybe he's bringing back that "gay agenda"' some people used to go on about

[Livia]

Well, that's that.

I tried to watch it with a woman doctor and it sucked. SOOOOOOO hard.

Now we have a black man. Give me strength. They might as well just cancel it now. The BBC is just trying too hard.

I watched a little bit of Dodger. There was a black Bow Street Runner and a black magistrate. If I were black, I'd be furious to think that the BBC is giving such a horribly skewed picture of history in order to be PC. Black people were servants... none were in society, and to try to expunge that is disingenuous.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Livia

Well, that's that.

I tried to watch it with a woman doctor and it sucked. SOOOOOOO hard.

Now we have a black man. Give me strength. They might as well just cancel it now. The BBC is just trying too hard.

I watched a little bit of Dodger. There was a black Bow Street Runner and a black magistrate. If I were black, I'd be furious to think that the BBC is giving such a horribly skewed picture of history in order to be PC. Black people were servants... none were in society, and to try to expunge that is disingenuous.

Don't you think its racist to stop watching something because they have cast a black person?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Denver

Don't you think its racist to stop watching something because they have cast a black person?

Ask me that the day they choose Tom Hardy as Shaka Zulu.... or Ryan Reynolds as Shaft.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Livia

Ask me that the day they choose Tom Hardy as Shaka Zulu.... or Ryan Reynolds as Shaft.

Those people were always meant to be black, the character of Doctor Who has always been able to generate into any type of life form not just a pasty white old man so I dont really see the point your making

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Denver

Those people were always meant to be black, the character of Doctor Who has always been able to generate into any type of life form not just a pasty white old man so I dont really see the point your making

People just don't like seeing progress people just want white people to have every single role. It's not really that deep but the gammons have to fume about something.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Denver

Those people were always meant to be black, the character of Doctor Who has always been able to generate into any type of life form not just a pasty white old man so I dont really see the point your making

Firstly, your use of the word "pasty white man" makes me laugh.

Secondly... the only reason the BBC have chosen a black man is to appease the woke.

How about the black woman who played Ann Boleyn, and who said "no part is beyond her". Is that okay? It is also okay if we blind cast Judi Dench as Rosa Parks?

Miscasting is causing more problems than it's solving. But is is a good excuse for shallow people to accuse others of racism for having a say on the subject.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Denver

Jodie [was] personally chosen without auditioning for the role

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt

He's 30 this year. Just found out and in the picture, I saw of him just now, he does look older than 16.

Well yeah, publicity headshots are of course airbrushed to heck, in candid photos he looks more his age judging an actor/ess by his or her headshot is like judging a book by its cover.

Originally Posted by Livia

Well, that's that.

I tried to watch it with a woman doctor and it sucked. SOOOOOOO hard.

Now we have a black man. Give me strength. They might as well just cancel it now. The BBC is just trying too hard

Meh. It's the BBC in "The Current Year", it was never gonna be a white man. Either roll with it or go without.

Anyway, waaaay back when the Second Doctor was being forced by the Time Lords to regenerate, they initially gave him an array of photos as to what he'd look like. One or two of them were obviously non-white. The Doctor's skin colour isn't important.