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Vanessa · 31-05-2023, 03:53 PM

I've been watching classic EastEnders and Dennis Rickman has just come in.
One of my all time favourites. What a great character he was!

Redway · 31-05-2023, 04:07 PM

He was amazing. 2003 had its dud moments but when it struck gold (which it did 75% of the time) it struck gold. I used to be somewhat biased against it in favour of 2005 but looking back it’s probably one of the most solidly watchable years ever.

Vanessa · 31-05-2023, 04:10 PM

Ian winning at the poker game and winding up Phil

Swan · 31-05-2023, 05:14 PM

Been watching this for about 3 years now. I started just when Grant finds out about Phil and Sharon in 1994, watched it ever since.

Swan · 31-05-2023, 05:15 PM

I think my favourite character so far was Steve Owen and David Wicks.

Vanessa · 31-05-2023, 05:15 PM

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I think my favourite character so far was Steve Owen and David Wicks.

Loved Steve.
It's 2003 now. What a great year that was!

Swan · 31-05-2023, 05:25 PM

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Loved Steve.
It's 2003 now. What a great year that was!

Yeah i never miss an episode.

Poor Dot. Paul is a good character too. I really don't like Laura though.

Vanessa · 31-05-2023, 05:37 PM

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Yeah i never miss an episode.

Poor Dot. Paul is a good character too. I really don't like Laura though.

Love Dot and Jim. Yes, I liked Paul as well.

Swan · 31-05-2023, 05:49 PM

I wish they hadn't killed off Roy.

Redway · 31-05-2023, 05:52 PM

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I wish they hadn't killed off Roy.

I don’t. He was boring and stifled Pat. That’s why Berridge called chops on him. Santer axing Honey and Yolande was much worse than any of Berridge’s axing (except maybe Paul Trueman, but even then I can’t remember if that was her or Hutchinson).

Vanessa · 31-05-2023, 05:58 PM

Glad Ian is coming back. I've missed the Ian/Phil rivalry.

Redway · 31-05-2023, 06:17 PM

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Glad Ian is coming back. I've missed the Ian/Phil rivalry.

I hope they nip that in the bud. They’re too old to still be going at it like a pair of teenage boys at war because one stole the other’s crush.

Swan · 31-05-2023, 06:20 PM

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I don’t. He was boring and stifled Pat. That’s why Berridge called chops on him. Santer axing Honey and Yolande was much worse than any of Berridge’s axing (except maybe Paul Trueman, but even then I can’t remember if that was her or Hutchinson).

Berridge also said they regretted axing Roy.

Martin should be out of prison soon ish, and Mickey Miller has just turned up.

Redway · 31-05-2023, 06:27 PM

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Berridge also said they regretted axing Roy.

Martin should be out of prison soon ish, and Mickey Miller has just turned up.

Yeah, well. It is what it is. Berridge gets too much flack for axing (amongst other things) and some people even believe the silly, nonsense rumour that she even tried to axe Pat. No. She axed Roy for Pat.’s benefit more than anything, even if she later regretted it. Personally I’ve never seen Roy and Barry’s exists as big losses for the show and a great storyline came out of the latter. That alone was worth it. Roy was boring and Barry was an utter joke.

Swan · 31-05-2023, 06:29 PM

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Yeah, well. It is what it is. Berridge gets too much flack for axing (amongst other things) and some people even believe the silly, nonsense rumour that she even tried to axe Pat. No. She axed Roy for Pat.’s benefit more than anything, even if she later regretted it. Personally I’ve never seen Roy and Barry’s exists as big losses for the show and a great storyline came out of the latter. That alone was worth it. Roy was boring and Barry was an utter joke.

Yeah im not a fan of Barry's character. I thought Roy was decent enough. You need stability, he brought that to the show.

I honestly think Ricky is a pretty useless character

Swan · 08-06-2023, 02:14 PM

This is starting to get really good now.

Vanessa · 08-06-2023, 02:22 PM

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This is starting to get really good now.

Is Dennis there yet? I need to catch up.

Swan · 08-06-2023, 02:32 PM

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Is Dennis there yet? I need to catch up.

Yeah he's turned up. He's already womanising, punched Phil, he's certainly made an entrance. Also Jack Dalton made his first appearance in today's episode. Phil goes to see him, and the ending is very interesting!

The summer is pretty much just beginning too, and with the new characters i think Redway is right, 2003 really becomes a good year.

Vanessa · 08-06-2023, 02:37 PM

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Yeah he's turned up. He's already womanising, punched Phil, he's certainly made an entrance. Also Jack Dalton made his first appearance in today's episode. Phil goes to see him, and the ending is very interesting!

The summer is pretty much just beginning too, and with the new characters i think Redway is right, 2003 really becomes a good year.

Dennis one of my all time favourite characters.
Gorgeous too and he still is.
So good to have Nigel in Casualty, he still makes me weak at the knees

Swan · 08-06-2023, 02:41 PM

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Dennis one of my all time favourite characters.
Gorgeous too and he still is.
So good to have Nigel in Casualty, he still makes me weak at the knees

Lol, well he's already been with Kat, and in today's episode he was snogging Sam

I remember he eventually gets with Sharon, but i think that's a lot later on. Or does he get with Zoe before Sharon? I literally think he gets with every women in square. He flirted with Pauline when she first met him lol

Redway · 08-06-2023, 02:39 PM

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Yeah he's turned up. He's already womanising, punched Phil, he's certainly made an entrance. Also Jack Dalton made his first appearance in today's episode. Phil goes to see him, and the ending is very interesting!

The summer is pretty much just beginning too, and with the new characters i think Redway is right, 2003 really becomes a good year.

Yeah, 2003 was a decent year. The summer of that year (after Dennis killed Jack Dalton and the Ferreiras became more prominent) and the Shirley/Gavin stuff weren't great but the rest of the year was very okay. I know everyone used to complain about Little Mo's second rape and to be fair Freddie could've easily been the result of natural conception with Billy but what's done is done now. I don't think there's anything from 2003 that hangs over the show negatively in the long-term. Robbie was a non-entity, Mark's story was told and Barry was a joke so those three characters getting the chop doesn't bother me whatsoever. The line about the slip-on shoes and the resolution to the whole thing (December 2005) alone made it a worthwhile storyline. And that's before even getting into Paul Trueman's involvement in it.

I genuinely don't get why a certain minority of people are so dismissive of 2003 and lump it in with 2004 (the more challenging part of the Berridge era, because of all sorts of off-screen problems) as a "bad" year. 2003 was a lot of things but bad isn't one of them. Puffs (and when I say that I don't mean with regard to sexuality per-se but just people who live up to a certain sensitive stereotype in that regard) don't like gangster stories but people like me do and so do many others (especially people from urban communities) so it is what it is.

Swan · 08-06-2023, 02:47 PM

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Yeah, 2003 was a decent year. The summer of that year (after Dennis killed Jack Dalton and the Ferreiras became more prominent) and the Shirley/Gavin stuff weren't great but the rest of the year was very okay. I know everyone used to complain about Little Mo's second rape and to be fair Freddie could've easily been the result of natural conception with Billy but what's done is done now. I don't think there's anything from 2003 that hangs over the show negatively in the long-term. Robbie was a non-entity, Mark's story was told and Barry was a joke so those three characters getting the chop doesn't bother me whatsoever. The line about the slip-on shoes and the resolution to the whole thing (December 2005) alone made it a worthwhile storyline. And that's before even getting into Paul Trueman's involvement in it.

I genuinely don't get why a certain minority of people are so dismissive of 2003 and lump it in with 2004 (the more challenging part of the Berridge era, because of all sorts of off-screen problems) as a "bad" year. 2003 was a lot of things but bad isn't one of them. Puffs (and when I say that I don't mean with regard to sexuality per-se but just people who live up to a certain sensitive stereotype in that regard) don't like gangster stories but people like me do and so do many others (especially people from urban communities) so it is what it is.

I actually forgot about the Ferreria's tbh. I know they're up with the Di Marco's as most useless families. I actually didn't mind the Di Marco's though and i had a huge crush on Teresa Di Marco

I agree with Mark, they made him into such a gormless sap. Glad Lisa's main role is no longer, for now anyway. She always got on my nerves. As does Laura. Barry is a bore as the bumbling idiot. And Robbie's time was done, agree with that.