[cujo-man]

was so the Twins being made as one.

If they hadn't the result would have been-

1st - Brian
2nd - Liam
3rd - Amanda
4th- Sam

It was ridiculous. I believe that this BB was manipulated in the way to make Brian win after the Race Row, but my question is, does this actually mean BB would have preffered the Twins to have won? But why would they have?

Lets face the facts, BB8 was the kind BB when it came to twists. Had it been BB5 they had been put into, they would have put the 2 up against each other in eviction for extra evil!

Also if Chanelle had stayed, Amanda and Sam would have been shoved down to 4th and 5th.

The twins were extremely weak, but as a team they were powerful.

[Billy]

Amanda wouldnt have been third she would have got 2nd. Liam would have been 3rd with Sam at 4th.

[XxShortyxX]

Originally posted by Billy
Amanda wouldnt have been third she would have got 2nd. Liam would have been 3rd with Sam at 4th.

I agree.

I don't think BB wanted the Twins to win by putting them as one HM.

It so obvious they wanted Brian to win. They was so bias towards him.

[KKBL]

Originally posted by Billy
Amanda wouldnt have been third she would have got 2nd. Liam would have been 3rd with Sam at 4th.

no.....I hate Liam but he had a bigger fan base then Amanda alone or Sam alone it would have probably been Brian first
Chanelle second Liam third Amanda forth and Sam 5th

[XxShortyxX]

Originally posted by CathalOS

no.....I hate Liam but he had a bigger fan base then Amanda alone or Sam alone it would have probably been Brian first
Chanelle second Liam third Amanda forth and Sam 5th

I don't think Liam was more popular then Amanda or Sam, as he only got 19% of the vote.

I think it would have gone something like:

Brian
Amanda
Sam
Liam

The people who would have voted for Sam would then voted for Amanda, given her extra votes, so really she might just had won.

[Captain.Remy]

Amanda would have been second anyway.

[cujo-man]

Look, Liam would have came second. People don't realise how popular Liam was before the twins were joined. The twins had no chance of winning in a million, trillion years if it wasn't for them being made as one.

I'm sorry thats the way it is. Also they only got 39% of the final vote, and they were joined together- thats awful considering Brian wasn't that popular.

[Billy]

"Brian wasnt that popular", he obviously was to get 60 per cent of the vote. And Liam may not have came second, as the bookies had it
Brian
Amanda
Liam

[KKBL]

Originally posted by sunshine30
Amanda would have been second anyway.

she wouldent because 50% of twin votes would go to Amanda and the other half for Sam so Liam would of beat them and if Chanelle was there she would of come second leaving Samanda with 4th and 5th

[cujo-man]

Originally posted by Billy
"Brian wasnt that popular", he obviously was to get 60 per cent of the vote. And Liam may not have came second, as the bookies had it
Brian
Amanda
Liam

I don't know what bookies you'd been looking at but Liam was 2nd favourite.

[XxShortyxX]

Originally posted by cujo_man
Look, Liam would have came second. People don't realise how popular Liam was before the twins were joined. The twins had no chance of winning in a million, trillion years if it wasn't for them being made as one.

I'm sorry thats the way it is. Also they only got 39% of the final vote, and they were joined together- thats awful considering Brian wasn't that popular.

If Liam was that popular, he would had come 2nd, no matter what.

Amanda would had come 2nd if her and Sam wasn't made as one HM.

In the end, Liam wasn't that popular as alot of people went off him because ofwhat he did with Amy.

[cujo-man]

Originally posted by CathalOS

she wouldent because 50% of twin votes would go to Amanda and the other half for Sam so Liam would of beat them and if Chanelle was there she would of come second leaving Samanda with 4th and 5th

Thank you- this is coming from someone who hates Liam and loves the Twins aswell!

Very non-bias person CathalOS.

[cujo-man]

Originally posted by XxShortyxX

If Liam was that popular, he would had come 2nd, no matter what.

Amanda would had come 2nd if her and Sam wasn't made as one HM.

In the end, Liam wasn't that popular as alot of people went off him because ofwhat he did with Amy.

How come he was still second favourite to win still after that?

[Arneldo]

BB making Twins one was an attempt to make Twins win, but it didn't work. I feel part of why the Twins lost out b such a large margin was due to Twin fans assuming Twins had it in the bag.

BTW - Before Twins became one housemate the odds were:
Brian - 1/3
Liam - 11/2
Jonty - 12/1
Amanda - 16/1
Sam - 33/1
Carole - 50/1
Ziggy - 50/1
Gerry- 50/1
Tracey - 80/1
KL - 100/1
Amy - 100/1

[XxShortyxX]

Originally posted by cujo_man

How come he was still second favourite to win still after that?

You can never trust or go by the bookies, they had the Twins to win massive in front of Brian, and they still came 2nd.

Don't trust the bookies, they lie.

At the end of the day, IMO the Twins were robbed, and Liam should of came 2nd.

[KKBL]

Originally posted by Arneldo
BB making Twins one was an attempt to make Twins win, but it didn't work. I feel part of why the Twins lost out b such a large margin was due to Twin fans assuming Twins had it in the bag.

BTW - Before Twins became one housemate the odds were:
Brian - 1/3
Liam - 11/2
Jonty - 12/1
Amanda - 16/1
Sam - 33/1
Carole - 50/1
Ziggy - 50/1
Gerry- 50/1
Tracey - 80/1
KL - 100/1
Amy - 100/1

see even Jonty had a better chance then ONE of the twins winning!

[cujo-man]

Originally posted by Arneldo
BB making Twins one was an attempt to make Twins win, but it didn't work. I feel part of why the Twins lost out b such a large margin was due to Twin fans assuming Twins had it in the bag.

BTW - Before Twins became one housemate the odds were:
Brian - 1/3
Liam - 11/2
Jonty - 12/1
Amanda - 16/1
Sam - 33/1
Carole - 50/1
Ziggy - 50/1
Gerry- 50/1
Tracey - 80/1
KL - 100/1
Amy - 100/1

Was Gerry that low at the time?

I thought he was still 5th favourite to win at that time?

I'm sure he was, as I remember getting really angry as he was in 4th and then Jonty pushed him to 5th after Chanelle left.

[XxShortyxX]

Originally posted by CathalOS

see even Jonty had a better chance then ONE of the twins winning!

Jonty would of never beaten one of the Twins. As when he and Kara, Tracey was up for eviction, Jonty survied by like 1%, so he wasn't popular at all.

Bookies got it so wrong this year IMO.

[Nicola]

Yeah I think Amanda would have been closer to winning than Sam if the twins were individuals, and both would have been finalists anyway even if they hadn't have been joined together. I also reckon that if Chanelle had stayed she would have done well and Jonty wouldn't have got in the final.

[cujo-man]

Originally posted by Nicola
Yeah I think Amanda would have been closer to winning than Sam if the twins were individuals, and both would have been finalists anyway even if they hadn't have been joined together. I also reckon that if Chanelle had stayed she would have done well and Jonty wouldn't have gotten into the final

I think it would have been Carole who wouldn't have made it to the final.

[Arneldo]

If, If, If.

The series is over but I suppose we cant really say for certain what would had happened if the Twins had not become one, or if Chanelle had not walked, or if the twins were one from the start.

[Wasted]

The most unfair twist of the series was BY FAR the HWH twist where they swapped Liam, Ziggy, Amy and Jonty with 4 other housemates. Definitely engineered by the producers to keep Liam and Ziggy, they wanted three newbies and only one official housemate in the HWH by the time the voting lines opened and they fixed it to make sure it happened.

We were specifically told that the HMs in the HWH would have to do tasks to get back into the house, and that there would only be two swaps, with two people getting back in to the house and two people being sent to the HWH. But, the producers messed everything up and ruined the twist by fixing it so whoever they wnted to be evicted would be evicted. That is one of many reasons why BB8's producers need to be fired.

Liam would not have come 2nd btw, still 3rd. One of the reasons for his odds falling a bit was the twins joining, but another reason was because he was such a little bitch and people were starting to see it. If the twins weren't joined, Amanda would've been 2nd and Sam would have been 4th at the most, maybe lower.

[BBDodge]

The twins lost votes being combined, as people thought it unfair.

So Brian profited from that twist to the extent of winning the show.

[cujo-man]

Originally posted by BBDodge
The twins lost votes being combined, as people thought it unfair.

So Brian profited from that twist to the extent of winning the show.

What a load of rubbish.

[supernoodles!]

how can you say you KNOW that Liam would have been 2nd if the twins werent made as one?I think its unfair they were made one hm practically at the end ,they should have been classed as one from the start or not at all but hey,i dont mind the fact they came 2nd