[davidalbert]

It really is time BB did away with Smoking Corner completely, certainly for BB11.................although I would abolish it next week.............
Smoking Corner allows housemates like Lisa to create a bolt hole apart from the main group...........
also I bet anything American BB doesnt have a smoking corner by now......the UK hangs on to something that is outmoded......
Smoking corner must go.....................housemates must not have priveliged bolt holes..............

[Matt]

The only problem is that, thanks to the UK smoking ban, they're required to have a designated outdoor smoking area (though I don't see why they can't just allow them to smoke anywhere as long as it is outdoors).

[IsleOfWeather]

Precisely

its 2009 ffs

We ban the use if racist language but happily condone and encourage an action that kills people slowly.

[a_2009]

Originally posted by davidalbert
It really is time BB did away with Smoking Corner completely, certainly for BB11.................although I would abolish it next week.............
Smoking Corner allows housemates like Lisa to create a bolt hole apart from the main group...........
also I bet anything American BB doesnt have a smoking corner by now......the UK hangs on to something that is outmoded......
Smoking corner must go.....................housemates must not have priveliged bolt holes..............

Whether there was a smoking corner or not wouldn't make much of a difference. Smokers will tend to congregate together in a group, designated area or not.

[davidalbert]

.......they could still have an area where individuals could go...on their own only........one at a time only.........just not a communal area...or , even better, they could be BRAVE from next year and say only non-smokers to audition...that would get the nation fit! te he.....

isleofweather...good point about racist language........p.c. for one thing but not another.........

[Iceman]

Smokers will always group together, they are hardly going to stand away from each other when smoking...

[davidalbert]

...yes but it excludes the majority of non smokers who dont want to stand there and inhale someone elses dangerous detritus.......

[a_2009]

Originally posted by davidalbert
.......they could still have an area where individuals could go...on their own only........one at a time only.........just not a communal area...or , even better, they could be BRAVE from next year and say only non-smokers to audition...that would get the nation fit! te he.....

isleofweather...good point about racist language........p.c. for one thing but not another.........

Ironically you refer to the racism and yet promote discrimination against smokers.....lets use a bit of common sense here ay

[davidalbert]

...a.2009....Society in the Western World now discriminates in this way...racism bad, smoking bad........go to America, they are much harsher than we are..........

[President]

Originally posted by Matt
The only problem is that, thanks to the UK smoking ban, they're required to have a designated outdoor smoking area (though I don't see why they can't just allow them to smoke anywhere as long as it is outdoors).

So they're not allowed to smoke anywhere else in the garden? Why not? It's outside!

[moveupandon]

i hate people who go around saying people haven't got the right to smoke!

who are you to say that you pc nazi?

why can't individuals be free to do what they want?

are you are dictator or something?

i don't smoke often, but when i have a drink sometimes i want one!

will you ban alcohol next? or is that your right?

[Iceman]

Originally posted by davidalbert
...yes but it excludes the majority of non smokers who dont want to stand there and inhale someone elses dangerous detritus.......

So that's there problem, people gave out about inhaling smoke indoors hence the smoking ban, now you dont want them to smoke outdoors either?

[Alf]

Originally posted by moveupandon
i hate people who go around saying people haven't got the right to smoke!

who are you to say that you pc nazi?

why can't individuals be free to do what they want?

are you are dictator or something?

i don't smoke often, but when i have a drink sometimes i want one!

will you ban alcohol next? or is that your right?

i agree with everything you say, especially the pc nazi part. they make me sick.

[a_2009]

Originally posted by davidalbert
...a.2009....Society in the Western World now discriminates in this way...racism bad, smoking bad........go to America, they are much harsher than we are..........

So lets join the masses because that makes discrimination ok. Bringing another country in to back up your disciminatory comments don't really do you any favours....you are responsible for your beliefs and the words which come out of your mouth...no one else!!

[TheOfficialAdam]

I hate watching lisa and karly smoke. Its all they do all day long

[IsleOfWeather]

Originally posted by a_2009

Ironically you refer to the racism and yet promote discrimination against smokers.....lets use a bit of common sense here ay

smoking causes cancer, no ifs or but(t)s - idiots who smoke are a drain on the NHS. We dont show smoking in advertising and we should not allow it on BB.

People who smoke are addicted to a drug called nicotine and do not act rationally and need to be forced and discriminated against

[davidalbert]

......BB is a communal experience......smoking corner panders to a clique.......

[Iceman]

^^are you serious??

[IsleOfWeather]

Originally posted by wannashag

i agree with everything you say, especially the pc nazi part. they make me sick.

I suspect you feel the same way about Heroin addicts too?

[HELLIWONTGO]

Originally posted by moveupandon
i hate people who go around saying people haven't got the right to smoke!

who are you to say that you pc nazi?

why can't individuals be free to do what they want?

are you are dictator or something?

i don't smoke often, but when i have a drink sometimes i want one!

will you ban alcohol next? or is that your right?

Well said, you got to it before I could, but people who call for a ban on things, never have the intelligence to see where it will lead to!

[IsleOfWeather]

Originally posted by Iceman
^^are you serious??

you cant be with that signature

[IsleOfWeather]

Originally posted by HELLIWONTGO

Well said, you got to it before I could, but people who call for a ban on things, never have the intelligence to see where it will lead to!

yes, the reduction of lung cancer and heart attacks would be a bummer

[Alf]

Originally posted by IsleOfWeather

I suspect you feel the same way about Heroin addicts too?

your just being silly now

[Iceman]

Originally posted by IsleOfWeather

you cant be with that signature

Do you know how much money governments make of cigarettes?

Stay on topic.

[a_2009]

Originally posted by IsleOfWeather

smoking causes cancer, no ifs or but(t)s - idiots who smoke are a drain on the NHS. We dont show smoking in advertising and we should not allow it on BB.

People who smoke are addicted to a drug called nicotine and do not act rationally and need to be forced and discriminated against

See if you're going to adopt a patronising approach it helps if there's some intelligent thought behind what you're saying.

Yes as a former smoker i'm well aware of the facts and that nicotine is as addictive as heroin, then there is breaking the actual habbit of 'oh i've just had a meal...time for a smoke'.

Alcohol is a massive drain on the nhs, so do we discriminate against drinkers, obesity is a drain on the nhs....do we ban all fast food and discriminate against people who are overweight to make them lose it.....

Whilst nicotine is a drug...and can lead an individually to get a bit narky when they haven't had a smoke and the nicotine levels decrease it you're still completely conscious and aware of your behaviour.

I can't stand the smell of smoke now, I'd encourage any mates who were thinking of quiting to quit. But i also respect the rights of those who choose to smoke and am strongly opposed to discrimination and the social exclusion of individuals