[arsenalforever]

What are the weak points and strong points of each show

I just see a few people over the last few days saying BB usa is beter then the uk one but what are your guys take on it?

[Chri$]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Brother_(U.S.) - The Wikipedia page will explain it.

BBUSA isn't just better than BBUK, Its unmissable!

[Benjamin]

I like both.
But you shouldn't compare them. The only similarity is the name.


I like BB USA because they have to use obvious tactics to remain in the game, and really have to have a strategic 'gameplan' and be able to manipulate.


BB UK I like because you face the public vote, so not only do you have to survive the house, but also convince the public of your approval. It feels like we have more control how the show runs and who we want to keep.

[CaraRawr]

I need to watch BBUSA.

[Marc]

Well for USA there is no public vote to decide the eviction. Every week 1 person becomes Head Of Household (HoH) and chooses 2 people go up for eviction. Then the eviction is decided by the rest of the housemates who aren't the HoH or the people up for eviction. (unless there is a tie then the HoH votes). There is a competition after the nominations in the week called the Power of Veto, where who ever wins can decide to take someone off eviction. If they do then someone else goes up instead of them! (decided by HoH)

USA is good because its more game play and you can be harsh/an idiot/complete arse and still win! The better you play the game the more likely you are to win. I think I prefer the USA version of the game, its more exicting. The UK version is more predictable.

[arsenalforever]

Originally posted by ukturtle
I like both.
But you shouldn't compare them. The only similarity is the name.


I like BB USA because they have to use obvious tactics to remain in the game, and really have to have a strategic 'gameplan' and be able to manipulate.


BB UK I like because you face the public vote, so not only do you have to survive the house, but also convince the public of your approval. It feels like we have more control how the show runs and who we want to keep.

do the Ken and Lisa type of characters win the show?

[Marc]

Ben beat me!!!

[Benjamin]

Originally posted by arsenalforever

do the Ken and Lisa type of characters win the show?

Yep. The US version has anyone win it. Nice or Nasty.

It's down to 'in-house' gameplay.

The UK's is more based on Public gameplay.

[arsenalforever]

Originally posted by Marcjswp
Well for USA there is no public vote to decide the eviction. Every week 1 person becomes Head Of Household (HoH) and chooses 2 people go up for eviction. Then the eviction is decided by the rest of the housemates who aren't the HoH or the people up for eviction. (unless there is a tie then the HoH votes). There is a competition after the nominations in the week called the Power of Veto, where who ever wins can decide to take someone off eviction. If they do then someone else goes up instead of them! (decided by HoH)

USA is good because its more game play and you can be harsh/an idiot/complete arse and still win! The better you play the game the more likely you are to win. I think I prefer the USA version of the game, its more exicting. The UK version is more predictable.

Damn that sounds gripping but i hate seen the bad guys win but i supoose its a good thing sometimes

[Benjamin]

Originally posted by Marcjswp
Ben beat me!!!

for the first time.


(I knew you were on before I saw you post. My Karma went up. Lol.)

[Matt]

In a nutshell, BBUS is a gameshow, whereas BBUK is more of a popularity contest.

I agree with ukturtle's comment that they can't really be compared. I like both equally.

[arsenalforever]

Originally posted by Matt
In a nutshell, BBUS is a gameshow, whereas BBUK is more of a popularity contest.

I agree with ukturtle's comment that they can't really be compared. I like both equally.

Can i see it on any sites?

[Marc]

Originally posted by arsenalforever

Damn that sounds gripping but i hate seen the bad guys win but i supoose its a good thing sometimes

not necessarily the bad guy, this year there are a few idiots in the house! whoever plays the game well and gets them evicted then I will love them!

[Marc]

Originally posted by arsenalforever

Can i see it on any sites?

http://realitytvfan.org/category/big...rother-usa-11/

This year's format is slightly different because of the 'cliques' rule. Never before done in BB USA

[Marc]

Originally posted by ukturtle

for the first time.


(I knew you were on before I saw you post. My Karma went up. Lol.)

Haha wise move, fast thinking
And yes that was me who Karma'ed you ...again LOL

[arsenalforever]

Thanks mate

[neonlight]

I think you can watch BBUSA 24/7 - Over here you can not.

[Bombardier]

What I mainly dislike about BB USA is the way the show is put together:

1. There is a cheesy "suspenseful" soundtrack that accompanies everything. It seems Americans need rock guitar in the background of all their entertainment and sports or they get confused and bored. By contrast, BB UK has moments of total silence and pregnant pauses that are quite unusual for TV, sometimes quite artfully done too.

2. In the USA there is a "host" who appears on-screen about every five bloody minutes to explain the technical aspects of the game and summarize EVERYTHING that has happened. It's absolutely unnecessary and quite insulting compared to BB UK, which is something you need to learn how to watch, and something you learn by watching.

3. BB USA seems to be filmed in outer space. The BB USA house doesn't seem to really exist anywhere. It's one great big nowhere. I like the fact that BB UK is very overt about where its house is situated, and uses its physicality to its advantage. Up until this series or the last one there were still lots of overhead shots of the garden with trees in the distance, weather patterns forming, sounds of police sirens going by (and occasionally people shouting things over the fence, depending on whether you liked that or not). I like that the BB UK housemates are isolated but still very much in the world.

4. There is no diary room in the USA version. Instead, "reality-style" talking heads are filmed at some other point and edited in. There is no "8:58 AM, Marcus goes to the diary room." There is none of the dry, funny banter with Big Brother (since he is not a "character" at all in the USA). There is no intrigue over who said what or who overheard what in the diary room. It's just fake and boring and the talking heads look glossy and scripted.

5. Nothing interesting ever happens on BB USA. I have been re-watching highlights from older BB UK series (BB5 and BB6) and even up to now there is still a spirit of social experiment and psychology alive in the show. There some really strange people who are subjected to some strange things, sometimes the results are hilarious. But what I like most is that on BB UK you can still catch people doing stupid, candid, human things. Sometimes NOTHING HAPPENS in an episode of BB UK and that's exactly why I like it. That's exactly what the spirit of the show is: sitting in front of your TV watching a group of strangers cooking, sleeping, playing. There are few television programs out there that make the audience explicitly aware of their mirrored relationship to the spectacle they're partaking in. BB UK is one of them. BB USA is not one of them.

As you can tell I don't really like the BB USA format, in fact I don't really like any USA format. Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares was similarly dumbed down by its American producers (to give you another example). The worst thing that could happen, I think, is for BB UK to try and be brought "into line" with its American counterpart by its producers. That, to me, would be the death of all that is good.