[jjj2]

She when around treating housemates like staff who needed putting in there place , she is used to giving orders and having them obeyed without question, will it work for her in the house or will the housemates just take the p--s out of her like they did last night

[Orvakki]

But is she a lesbian dominatrix?

[smudgie]

I think she will stir the house up good and proper. Not forgetting that the newbies have full knowledge of the way things swing in there. (and out here on the forums)

[jjj2]

Originally Posted by Orvakki

But is she a lesbian dominatrix?

remains to be seen , but i think john james likes a dominant woman

[WOMBAI]

No way is Ben going to accept that! Should be interesting!

[Angus]

Originally Posted by jjj2

She when around treating housemates like staff who needed putting in there place , she is used to giving orders and having them obeyed without question, will it work for her in the house or will the housemates just take the p--s out of her like they did last night

She's flogging a dead horse if she tries to order Ben around

[Visage]

This is what I like to see.

[Speedster]

Originally Posted by Orvakki

But is she a lesbian dominatrix?

Nooooo. The poster was just trying to be funny.

[Julie10]

She reckons she is going to make him clean and do the task whether he likes it or not. It will be very interesting to see. Ben does not like being told what to do.

[Speedster]

Originally Posted by jjj2

She when around treating housemates like staff who needed putting in there place , she is used to giving orders and having them obeyed without question, will it work for her in the house or will the housemates just take the p--s out of her like they did last night

Over-sensitive much?. What do you expect from a successfull business woman?, she's just finding her feet, and anyway, maybe some of thse lot need bossing about.


I notice a distinct lack of complaints from people about Nathan taking control of the kitchen, or of jj taking control of (female) housemates.

One rule for 1 and 1 rule for another depending on what sex you are? surely not?.

[Livia]

I don't like her. I hate people who feel they have to tell you that they're confident. Someone who was really confident would have to tell you. It's like someone who has to tell you that they're zany and a bit mad... it always turns out they're just an idiot.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Speedster

Over-sensitive much?. What do you expect from a successfull business woman?, she's just finding her feet, and anyway, maybe some of thse lot need bossing about.


I notice a distinct lack of complaints from people about Nathan taking control of the kitchen, or of jj taking control of (female) housemates.

One rule for 1 and 1 rule for another depending on what sex you are? surely not?.

If she's really that successful she wouldn't have to boss people around. A good manager knows how to motivate and get the best out of people. We only know what we've been told about this woman. She works for a travel agent - big deal... it's hardly Dragon's Den. I'm sure there are more successful people on this forum who are half so pleased with themselves.

[Speedster]

Originally Posted by Livia

If she's really that successful she wouldn't have to boss people around. A good manager knows how to motivate and get the best out of people. We only know what we've been told about this woman. She works for a travel agent - big deal... it's hardly Dragon's Den. I'm sure there are more successful people on this forum who are half so pleased with themselves.

I just used the "bossing about" term to paraphrase the o.p. She must be doing something right, she's won awards. And as for Good managers not needing to motivate, Why do "celebrity chefs" get away with it?. I remeber Rex describling himself as a "professional bully" because he worked in a kitchen, this seemed to impress people.

[phil2004uk]

Originally Posted by Speedster

I just used the "bossing about" term to paraphrase the o.p. She must be doing something right, she's won awards. And as for Good managers not needing to motivate, Why do "celebrity chefs" get away with it?. I remeber Rex describling himself as a "professional bully" because he worked in a kitchen, this seemed to impress people.

Richard Branson is successfull and he's no where near bossy...

She's won awards through meeting criteria on a piece of paper, not by how many employees like her

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Speedster

I just used the "bossing about" term to paraphrase the o.p. She must be doing something right, she's won awards. And as for Good managers not needing to motivate, Why do "celebrity chefs" get away with it?. I remeber Rex describling himself as a "professional bully" because he worked in a kitchen, this seemed to impress people.

I didn't say good managers don't need to motivate. I said good managers would know how to motivate without bossing people around.

[phil2004uk]

Originally Posted by Livia

I didn't say good managers don't need to motivate. I said good managers would know how to motivate without bossing people around.

She's a gold digger, talking about how her apartment is massive.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by phil2004uk

She's a gold digger, talking about how her apartment is massive.

I admire anyone who works hard, but I dispise people who bang on about themselves. If you have to talk yourself up continually, there's something wrong with you. Most really successful people have a little humility... but then I guess she just works for a high street travel agency so has to talk herself up a little. I hope she's thinking of retraining as more and more people book online.

[GiRTh]

I liked her on BBLB but didn't like her overconfidence adn her constant reference to her achievements. That wont wash in the house. She may be a boss out here but in there she's quite low down the pecking order. Trying to act like the boss could prove counter productive.

On the LF she wasn't being too assertive IMO. She seemed to enjoy the attention of being a new HM but I didn't see much much else.

[Speedster]

Originally Posted by Livia

I admire anyone who works hard, but I dispise people who bang on about themselves. If you have to talk yourself up continually, there's something wrong with you. Most really successful people have a little humility... but then I guess she just works for a high street travel agency so has to talk herself up a little. I hope she's thinking of retraining as more and more people book online.

Maybe she was answering questions from the others who were trying to get to know her a bit?.

[Speedster]

Originally Posted by phil2004uk

She's a gold digger, talking about how her apartment is massive.

Gold digger? because she's proud of what she's achieved?. If you say so. And that's not the definition of a "gold digger" anyway, a gold digger is someone (usually accepted to be a woman) who goes after and uses someone else's wealth.

[Speedster]

Originally Posted by Livia

I didn't say good managers don't need to motivate. I said good managers would know how to motivate without bossing people around.

And, with all due respect, I didn't say you did, I said, there are -plenty- of managers who don't so much motivate as bully through threats,verbal abuse,intimdation and acts of violence and who then go on to get awards and make millions.

[jjj2]

Originally Posted by Speedster

Gold digger? because she's proud of what she's achieved?. If you say so. And that's not the definition of a "gold digger" anyway, a gold digger is someone (usually accepted to be a woman) who goes after and uses someone else's wealth.

I think money is her definition of success in life and anybody who has not got money is a failure in her mind and not deserving of respect

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

I liked her on BBLB but didn't like her overconfidence adn her constant reference to her achievements. That wont wash in the house. She may be a boss out here but in there she's quite low down the pecking order. Trying to act like the boss could prove counter productive.

On the LF she wasn't being too assertive IMO. She seemed to enjoy the attention of being a new HM but I didn't see much much else.

Very true - I just look at her in a numpty light as short blondes are just uber hot

I'm sure it'll wear off in a couple of days when recognise she's an awful twat!

[phil2004uk]

Originally Posted by Speedster

Gold digger? because she's proud of what she's achieved?. If you say so. And that's not the definition of a "gold digger" anyway, a gold digger is someone (usually accepted to be a woman) who goes after and uses someone else's wealth.

Oh yeah, her boyfriend built it for her to stay in...she's a superficial one anyway

[CaudleHalbard]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

She may be a boss out here but in there she's quite low down the pecking order.

Yes. As a newbie she is at the bottom of the heap at the moment.

Keeley is likely to gain some enemies very early on and this will be reflected in nominations in due course,