[waterhog]

drop dead Ed speech 03.10.12

i am so sorry,
but i have to block,
yes we have so much in common,
i no very well Haverstock.
but it is not good enough,
this alone won't bind,
because after the disaster "Gordon",
in the "Brown" Labor did find.
Tony was the best ever,
yes i can see similar charisma,
but after 2 brutal let downs,
you won't top "Blair" or be a equalizer.
Labor went against us,
by trying to double the poor mans tax,
yet again with immigration policy's,
anger and tension was brought to the max.
it was a good speech,
memory was a key factor,
but deep down there was no substance,
that's why Ed failed as a actor.
i have had enough of politics,
you are all exactly the same,
drop dead Ed with your speech,
a invalid ballot paper is my new game.



( this was very difficult of me to write because i want Labor to represent me, but i have been so let down by them i just can not see any hope for them. if Ed had come out and said the things i wanted to hear, it would have been a different story. how do you feel about Labor ? will you be voting for ED ?)

[Kazanne]

dead boring,lines stolen from the Conservatives,did he really go to a 'comprehensive' school,lol,and to score points he has to have a pop at the opposition at every opportunity,calling them for the state of the country !!! Er Hello,dumbo.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by kazanne

dead boring,lines stolen from the Conservatives,did he really go to a 'comprehensive' school,lol,and to score points he has to have a pop at the opposition at every opportunity,calling them for the state of the country !!! Er Hello,dumbo.

I was falling asleep.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I was falling asleep.

not at my post, I hope Vanessa

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by kazanne

not at my post, I hope Vanessa

No, at the speech. I saw it last night on tv. I couldn't keep my eyes open!

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

No, at the speech. I saw it last night on tv. I couldn't keep my eyes open!

Good for insomniacsmorning Vanessa

[Livia]

My Dad calls him Cain... I'm sure I wouldn't want someone who could shaft his own brother so shamelessly to run my country. He's a great leader of the opposition though, a really valuable weapon in the arsenal of all other parties because he's so profoundly unlikeable.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Livia

My Dad calls him Cain... I'm sure I wouldn't want someone who could shaft his own brother so shamelessly to run my country. He's a great leader of the opposition though, a really valuable weapon in the arsenal of all other parties because he's so profoundly unlikeable.

Excellent name for him

[joeysteele]

I am in no way a party political person so have no allegiances to any of the 3 main parties, I have voted Conservative for the Council elections and for my sins Lib Dem in the General election.

I have been watching as much as I can the Party conferences,I think it a pity that they are hidden away on the Parliament channel in the main and not,(at least the main speakers), on mainstream TV as they used to be.

Nick Clegg as ever made a good speech but sadly, no matter what he says now, I will always be suspicious as to believing him so it went rather straight through one ear and out the other with me what he said.

Ed Miliband, I thought oh crumbs here we go, more condescending speech likely and little else, however to be fair, I was surprised.
I was impressed with the no notes in hand or available, I also liked learning a bit more about him and his Parents, it was a more get to know me better speech but I warmed to him definitely.
I watched it with 15 others,of whom all but 1 were not either surprised how better it was or impressed.

I expected little as to detailed policy, this far from a General Election that was always unlikely, the present parties in Govt cannot say what they will for sure do next year never mind after the next election.
To be fair, I was personally quite impressed at the flow of delivery of the speech and also the content, he held my attention and I agreed with much he had to say as well as also disagreeing on other matters.

What he maybe set out to achieve was to show he wasn't a weak, uninspiring leader who had no hope of becoming PM.
In fact, even many of my staunch Conservative friends say he went some way to taking that opinion out the picture.

Overall I would give him an 8 out of 10, he will need in 2014 to really have firm detail as to policies to present in his speech then but for this year, he did good and I did find myself thinking, he could just manage to win outright in 2015.
He will near for certain lead the party that gets the most seats in Parliament after the 2015 election,for me for one reason.

That reason being the speech today, that near all my Politics student friends,no matter their party allegiances fully agreed with, the speech by Andy Burnham and his condemnation of the Coalitions NHS,( disastrous), reforms, we all watched that one and all but 3 smiled and even cheered when he said he would be repealing the Coalitions NHS reforms if Labour win in 2015.

That was the real speech of the conference, Ed Miliband's speech though was in my view well presented, flowed near perfectly and was a refreshing change as well as being unexpected as to its format.

Roll on next week when the Conservative party take on the conference role,I expect David Cameron to make a really good speech as he always does but for me the NHS is going to ruin his hopes of any chance of an overall majority at the next election, those reforms were a really bad move and also very unwise reforms to do across the board as to the NHS in my opinion.
Even Conservative supporters I know and talk to fear a backlash from the voters as to that policy.

[the truth]

cain and unable, pretty uninspiring blokes
hes better off in the background. the main problem with labour is, they simply cant seem to understand where they went wrong and never admitted to it. this bloke says nothing original or game changing , nor anything that even relates to the man on the street.

compared to watching the master, bill clinton, hypnotising the masses at the democratic convention last week, watching millibland was like watching a crusty snotty nosed 6th former, applying for the head boy role, ranting on a soap box in the rain.

d grade

[joeysteele]

I do have to also admit, I was stunned when he took his Brother on in the leadership contest,I cannot see a time ever where for a position, that I would enter a contest against one of my Brothers.

Politics, is however a cut-throat and hard profession, David does seem to have moved on from that result and has never really said one thing against his Brother Ed.
Personally, had I been a Labour supporter, member or even a Labour MP, I wouldn't have chosen either Miliband for Leader of the party.
Of the leadership candidates after the 2010 election,I would have supported Andy Burnham who is an MP I have great respect for,especially as to his dedication to the NHS.

I can also take on board, what some staunch Labour voters say, in that by challenging for the Leadership against his Brother, he showed he is not afraid of offending anyone to get to be able to do what he believes in, from his speech on Tuesday, he showed he was his own person definitely, like him or not.
He can clearly be ruthless to reach his personal and professional aims. In Politics, that is likely how you have to be most of the time to get anywhere you want to.

You likely have few friends in Politics,real friends that is,I still think he did good in his speech and I have never as yet voted Labour but he managed to reach me in the main far more than Clegg did in his speech and likely on this occasion more than David Cameron will likely do next week, despite me really liking David Cameron far more than either of the Miliband Brothers.

[Nedusa]

A good remedy for Insomnia by all accounts....

[Kizzy]

Where is it written that to be PM you have to be a song and dance act?
It has been said that to have the 'likeability' factor we can't have an intellectual at no10..
yet we can have those elitists who don't rely on intelect just their own inflated sense of entitlement to govern us?

[joeysteele]

The Leader seen as most popular doesn't always win elections, reading back, Harold Wilson was far more popular than Edward Heath in 1970 but Heath won the election, James Callaghan was far more popular than Margaret Thatcher personally in 1979 but she went on to win that election.

I am looking forward to seeing David Cameron's speech this week to see how it shapes up to Ed Milibands,again I say,I feel Ed Miliband made a pretty good one,in fact it is widely seen as that from all Political opinion in the main.
What I have seen today as to the Conservatives though is a long way from inspiring so David Cameron has a lot to do this week.

In fairness though, I find the Party conferences another bad thing as to Party politics, they are in effect preaching to the converted and likely reaching few outside the conference halls that are not their voters.
Time to inject some real opposition and more general opinion in these conferences,My Dad informs me the only one really worth watching was the Labour conference because it was the only one that had sparks flying at it from the people at it against their leaders.