[Brillopad]

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/...-a7793731.html

He is right. It is all getting a bit sycophanty now - they are in danger of either creating a monster ego or of making people so sick of hearing his name and seeing that smirk that they will vote against him just to get rid. It is all becoming very childish.

[user104658]

No that's u

[Brother Leon]

We're good. We are happy having a politician we can believe in and be proud of supporting. The rest can do as they wish.

[JTM45]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

We're good. We are happy having a politician we can believe in and be proud of supporting. The rest can do as they wish.

Well said Leon!!!

[the truth]

the left are basically a wild lawless vigilante mob now. They will resort to endless violence to try and get their way, these are very very dangerous times now

[JTM45]

Originally Posted by the truth

the left are basically a wild lawless vigilante mob now. They will resort to endless violence to try and get their way, these are very very dangerous times now

Your mind appears to exist in some sort of warped alt-reality!

The most dangerous thing going on here in the UK currently is the prospect of a Tory/DUP Government with the woefully incapable Theresa May at the helm combined with Brexit.
A recipe for disaster for the good people of a once 'Great' Britain!

[Kizzy]

Not sure why social policies offend people so bad :/
If you don't support him fine, you do you. I reserve the right to support who I like as much as I like.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Not sure why social policies offend people so bad :/
If you don't support him fine, you do you. I reserve the right to support who I like as much as I like.

Fans are blinded by his promises - some of which it looks unlikely he will be able to keep. He is not the Messiah and those acting as though he is not only look silly they will damage him. Be my guest.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Fans are blinded by his promises - some of which it looks unlikely he will be able to keep.
.

I honestly dont think you know how any of this works

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Withano

I honestly dont think you know how any of this works

Don't I. Alright he will give you all everything you want - if that makes you feel better. Just be ready for a few bruises when you come back down to earth.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Don't I. Alright he will give you all everything you want - if that makes you feel better. Just be ready for a few bruises when you come back down to earth.

You literally have no idea. How are you so heavily invested in this.

[DemolitionRed]

How anyone could fear real political choice is beyond me. The only thing May represents is political philosophy.

Richard Murphy wrote a recent blog saying: "Thatcher put it in a nutshell, of course. She said there was no such thing as society. And she meant it. Neoliberalism says there are only markets and contractual relationships. But no obligations. No duty. No care. Just mercenary relationships. And this difference, or rather the indifference of neoliberalism as opposed to the care of genuine social democracy is back on the political agenda now. We saw it on June 8. People did not embrace May because they knew she that did not embrace them.

[Withano]

Imagine being so discontent with every political party that you dont see any leader as a hero. Kinda pity that.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Withano

Imagine being so discontent with every political party that you dont see any leader as a hero. Kinda pity that.

It is a pity - but at least it is keeping it real.

How long have we had political parties and how often do every side break election promises - but still there are those that will believe in the 'second-coming' that will be the exception to the rule. Talking about coming down with a bang.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

It is a pity.

Its kinda cute when we agree on stuff though. Hope you find faith in some political leader at some point in the future

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Withano

Its kinda cute when we agree on stuff though. Hope you find faith in some political leader at some point in the future

I have faith - in the Tories. What you see is what you get.

[Kazanne]

Watching him on Peston now,trying to avoid answering questions about Labour not investing in those tower blocks when Labour were in power and being rather sanctimonious about the question about TM,I wonder if he has given a room to any of those people affected by this yet ? he is pushing the tower inferno for his agenda isn't he,lol.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Watching him on Peston now,trying to avoid answering questions about Labour not investing in those tower blocks when Labour were in power and being rather sanctimonious about the question about TM,I wonder if he has given a room to any of those people affected by this yet ? he is pushing the tower inferno for his agenda isn't he,lol.

Good God

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Withano

Good God

Good God indeed... Labour haven't run Kensington since 1974

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Watching him on Peston now,trying to avoid answering questions about Labour not investing in those tower blocks when Labour were in power and being rather sanctimonious about the question about TM,I wonder if he has given a room to any of those people affected by this yet ? he is pushing the tower inferno for his agenda isn't he,lol.

He is indeed - and May is getting criticised - at least she isn't using it for political gain.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Watching him on Peston now,trying to avoid answering questions about Labour not investing in those tower blocks when Labour were in power and being rather sanctimonious about the question about TM,I wonder if he has given a room to any of those people affected by this yet ? he is pushing the tower inferno for his agenda isn't he,lol.

Crying out loud.

How long has your govt been in power now.

Are you ever going to ask why this your govt went for cheaper cladding just 3 or 4 years ago as to these blocks despite warnings.
Or is it fine by you in your desire to blame previous govts and never this one for them cutting corners endlessly Cons to allow risks to safety.

Unbelievable.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Crying out loud.

How long has your govt been in power now.

Are you ever going to ask why this your govt went for cheaper cladding just 3 or 4 years ago as to these blocks despite warnings.
Or is it fine by you in your desire to blame previous govts and never this one for them cutting corners endlessly Cons to allow risks to safety.

Unbelievable.

What about sprinklers - they had never had any. How long has the tower been there and how long ago were Labour in government - do the sums. There is blame on both sides.

I couldn't believe they had no sprinklers and had never had them - in a tower block - it's criminal.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Crying out loud.

How long has your govt been in power now.

Are you ever going to ask why this your govt went for cheaper cladding just 3 or 4 years ago as to these blocks despite warnings.
Or is it fine by you in your desire to blame previous govts and never this one for them cutting corners endlessly Cons to allow risks to safety.

Unbelievable.

I blame them ALL including the councils,builders etc, but IF labour had invested when it was put to them,this might not have happened,people are quick enough to point the finger at this government so why not the government that was in power when their safety was first raised . They are ALL at fault from the bottom to the top.you know what they say " A stitch in time saves nine".

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I blame them ALL including the councils,builders etc, but IF labour had invested when it was put to them,this might not have happened,people are quick enough to point the finger at this government so why not the government that was in power when their safety was first raised . They are ALL at fault from the bottom to the top.you know what they say " A stitch in time saves nine".

They've been in power for 7 years Kazanne, they've had plenty of time to review safety.
I see you avoid that it's this govt who chose cheaper cladding in these blocks,not Labour.

I got sick of Labour blaming the Cons at times after being in power for 5 years or more by 2002.

It is ridiculous now looking back and only blaming Labour for underinvestment on this when they've been our of power for over 7 years.

This govt has done absolutely nothing to address safety on this issue, and even took the dangerous cheaper option as to cladding too despite new warnings.
You can ignore that all you like and just fire off from your hate of Labour.
It doesn't change the fact this govt had done nothing on this for 7 years and endangered as much as if not more.

Even Mrs May has been forced too to admit the response to this tragedy was too slow again I see no criticism of that from you or those hell bent on just blaming Labour for all that's bad.while sidestepping this govts endless list of faults.

Totally ridiculous in my view.
I give up with you I thought you fairer than that,unbelievable.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

They've been in power for 7 years Kazanne, they've had plenty of time to review safety.
I see you avoid that it's this govt who chose cheaper cladding in these blocks,not Labour.

I got sick of Labour blaming the Cons at times after being in power for 5 years or more by 2002.

It is ridiculous now looking back and only blaming Labour for underinvestment on this when they've been our of power for over 7 years.

This govt has done absolutely nothing to address safety on this issue, and even took the dangerous cheaper option as to cladding too despite new warnings.
You can ignore that all you like and just fire off from your hate of Labour.
It doesn't change the fact this govt had done nothing on this for 7 years and endangered as much as if not more.

Even Mrs May has been forced too to admit the response to this tragedy was too slow again I see no criticism of that from you or those he'll bent on just blaming Labour forball that's bad.while sidestepping this govts endless list of faults.

Totally ridiculous in my view.

If Labour chose not to put in sprinklers, an obvious fire safety system in tower blocks, then who can say whether they would/wouldn't have chosen cheaper cladding. They showed no more concern for fire safety than the Tories are being accused of.