[luminoussun]

Women fought for equality and feminists have fought for womens rights for years so women did'nt have to cook clean and sell there body as the only way of earning a living.
Now women have the choice of any job and can be anything they want to be...so it's a bit worrying to find out that most young women would rather be a wag then anything else.
talentless bimbos whos only skill is being good in the bedroom.
They want to leach off a man and spend all day shopping off his money.
glorified prostitutes who hang around clubs just hoping one day some premiership footballer gets drunk enough to pregnate them.

5 years ago sophie would of been voted out for being a slut...But now she is being looked at as a winner??
I fear for the young girls looking up to her saving up for huge plastic tits and thinking it's ok to sleep with a man after 4 days on tv.
ok sophie seems nice but come on for gods sake grow some morals.Don't slag noirin/bea off for being a tart and then praise a porn star

[prkp12]

oh shut up
shes great!

[DiamondDogTags]

Don't worry.. BB is not a place for role models.

[luminoussun]

Originally posted by prkp12
oh shut up
shes great!

How can i argue with such a well thought out argument hehe

[BBUK4LYFE]

Originally posted by luminoussun
Women fought for equality and feminists have fought for womens rights for years so women did'nt have to cook clean and sell there body as the only way of earning a living.
Now women have the choice of any job and can be anything they want to be...so it's a bit worrying to find out that most young women would rather be a wag then anything else.
talentless bimbos whos only skill is being good in the bedroom.
They want to leach off a man and spend all day shopping off his money.
glorified prostitutes who hang around clubs just hoping one day some premiership footballer gets drunk enough to pregnate them.

5 years ago sophie would of been voted out for being a slut...But now she is being looked at as a winner??
I fear for the young girls looking up to her saving up for huge plastic tits and thinking it's ok to sleep with a man after 4 days on tv.
ok sophie seems nice but come on for gods sake grow some morals.Don't slag noirin/bea off for being a tart and then praise a porn star

[Vicky.]

Hmmm...who would you say is a good rolemodel then?

[reallynow]

Hmmmmm I am just not going to answer this because I know I would get attacked.

But I would simply say, feminism has caused a lot of single mothers out there and children without fathers. Feminism main tool should be to find the best man possible to compliment ones life in work, education, raising children and enjoying life.

[luminoussun]

Originally posted by VickyJ
Hmmm...who would you say is a good rolemodel then?

Any women who don't use her body to get money?
A woman who works in a real job.
Someone who has pride in herself and don't think a man is just a walking wallet.
Basically any woman who has to study or learn a trade just like men do.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Originally posted by luminoussun
Women fought for equality and feminists have fought for womens rights for years so women did'nt have to cook clean and sell there body as the only way of earning a living.
Now women have the choice of any job and can be anything they want to be...so it's a bit worrying to find out that most young women would rather be a wag then anything else.
talentless bimbos whos only skill is being good in the bedroom.
They want to leach off a man and spend all day shopping off his money.
glorified prostitutes who hang around clubs just hoping one day some premiership footballer gets drunk enough to pregnate them.

5 years ago sophie would of been voted out for being a slut...But now she is being looked at as a winner??
I fear for the young girls looking up to her saving up for huge plastic tits and thinking it's ok to sleep with a man after 4 days on tv.
ok sophie seems nice but come on for gods sake grow some morals.Don't slag noirin/bea off for being a tart and then praise a porn star

I actually agree with you.

I think it's really sad that more and more girls nowadays have no ambition other than to snag a footballer, or become glamour models, or go on reality TV shows and have five minutes of fame, make a quick buck and not actually contribute anything to society.

I think it's just a sign of the times we live in though unfortunately. And if they aren't hurting anybody then live and let live I guess.

[reallynow]

Originally posted by luminoussun

Any women who don't use her body to get money?
A woman who works in a real job.
Someone who has pride in herself and don't think a man is just a walking wallet.
Basically any woman who has to study or learn a trade just like men do.

Don't you know this is all down to feminism, and Bea tarting it about with 50 men too!

[Staceee]

Women use big brother contestants as role models?

[luminoussun]

your not lookiing at the bigger picture.
You just see sophie and go on the defence.
I have no grudge against sophie.
It is society i fear for.

[brian3]

In the 80s feminists said that a woman who apears on page 3 or a lads mag was degrading herself and all women


Then in the 90s post-feminists said that women who apeared in lads mag where showing they where strong by using their looks to get ahead

I dont know what the pary line is now.

[WOMBAI]

Originally posted by reallynow
Hmmmmm I am just not going to answer this because I know I would get attacked.

But I would simply say, feminism has caused a lot of single mothers out there and children without fathers. Feminism main tool should be to find the best man possible to compliment ones life in work, education, raising children and enjoying life.

Rather narrow-minded don't you think?

It is not feminism that has created single mothers - it does take two to tango you know!!!!!!!

A large part of it is boys/men not being held accountable for their behaviour ie, they often don't much care about contraception, they abandon their children and run away from their responsibilities. At least the mothers in that position are taking responibility and looking after their children. They rarely abandon their children!! They do a damn good job in the circumstances - whilst the guys often continue to go around impregnating other young girls - often much younger - and just repeating the cycle!!

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by luminoussun

Any women who don't use her body to get money?
A woman who works in a real job.
Someone who has pride in herself and don't think a man is just a walking wallet.
Basically any woman who has to study or learn a trade just like men do.

Sorry, obviously totally missed your point, thought you were trying to say someone else in the house was a better role model.

Very sensible post.

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by COMMONSENSE

Rather narrow-minded don't you think?

It is not feminism that has created single mothers - it does take two to tango you know!!!!!!!

A large part of it is boys/men not being held accountable for their behaviour ie, they often don't much care about contraception, they abandon their children and run away from their responsibilities. At least the mothers in that position are taking responibility and looking after their children. They rarely abandon their children!! They do a damn good job in the circumstances - whilst the guys often continue to go around impregnating other young girls - often much younger - and just repeating the cycle!!

I agree totally with one of your posts. What the hell is wrong with me?!

[Staceee]

Originally posted by luminoussun

Any women who don't use her body to get money?
A woman who works in a real job.
Someone who has pride in herself and don't think a man is just a walking wallet.
Basically any woman who has to study or learn a trade just like men do.

'Just like men do'

Men are models too.

[WOMBAI]

Originally posted by VickyJ

I agree totally with one of your posts. What the hell is wrong with me?!

Were both women - and don't like those sort of double-standard attitudes, I guess.

[halfacrown]

A feminist doesn't have to be all 'high morals and low heals', Sophie can look great in a sort of over the top glam, slightly ******, way, but she lacks integrity. I'm not fussed about her wanting to be a porn star but she's let herself down by going around with Kris and being nasty about people, whilst acting innocent.

I can even forgive her incessant farting, I'm just appaled by how she treats people who have gone out of their way to support her, Marcus for example.

[luminoussun]

Originally posted by Staceee

'Just like men do'

Men are models too.

True
Hey why not do a post about bad men role models?

[GypsyGoth]

If other girls want to be married to a footballer, I don't mind. But if that is all they aspire to, then it bugs me. And I'm not in the least jealous. I want them to have bigger dreams, but who am I to impose what I want upon them. Anyway I hate shopping.

Sophie being the winner would annoy me as well. She hasn't done much. I think Bea deserves it more than her.

[BitterFruit]

Now men have the choice of any job and can be anything they want to be...it's a bit worrying to find out that most young men would rather be a premiership footballer then anything else.
talentless himbos whos only skill is being good on the grass.
They want to leach off high spending clubs and spend all day shopping their money.
glorified prostitutes who hang around clubs just hoping one day some girl gets drunk enough to dance with them.


I remember in my day when you ..........

[Oooo_get_her]

Originally posted by reallynow
Hmmmmm I am just not going to answer this because I know I would get attacked.

But I would simply say, feminism has caused a lot of single mothers out there and children without fathers. Feminism main tool should be to find the best man possible to compliment ones life in work, education, raising children and enjoying life.

Feminism has not caused single mothers.

And the idea the 'feminism' has anything to do with finding a man at all (good, bad or indifferent) is quite frankly laughable.

Feminism, if it is any one thing today (which really it isn't) is quite simply the philosophy that women are not subservient to, nor lesser than, men and that therefore they (we) should be completely free to choose any path in life. That's all - it isn't about telling women what the 'right' path is, but simply provide women with the same choices as men and allowing both to get on with it.

It is an interesting reflection on society that a lot of young women aspire to wag-dom - but I disagree that that is a majority aspiration. I also disagree that a woman being a 'glamour model' is equivalent to pre-emancipation prostitution. A lot of the women who choose the route of selling sex (in whatever form) are doing quite the opposite of being sexual chattels. That's not true of every woman in 'glamour' or hardcore of course, it's still a minority thing unfortunately - but it has made a lot of very successful business women and the very fact that there are some that do not need a man pimping for them (literally or metaphorically) is a positive thing in that industry.

[kisywisy]

i don't see why we should blame the media for not giving girls positive role models. that's up to us as parents to instill proper values to our children.

[Oooo_get_her]

Originally posted by kisywisy
i don't see why we should blame the media for not giving girls positive role models. that's up to us as parents to instill proper values to our children.

Good point.

The media are only answering a demand - they wouldn't push this sh1t if there wasn't a market for it.