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Old 27-07-2010, 10:52 PM #1
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Okay, like Sir drama crab-eyes John James himself, I enjoy to analyse and interpret peoples behaviour in successfully understanding them better, however, I am struggling with John James.


On the one hand, he is suffering with some kind of case of bi-polar and constantly changes his mind about Josie and his affections toward her, OR on the other hand he is infact playing the game and is doing this constant changing his mind to attract attention and cause us all to enjoy watching his crazy emotions and thus making good tv. He does always seem to be in shot, I have almost forgotten the other housemates. He does have the highest IQ (or so I read on here) and i'm not altogether surprised, you can tell hes intelligent. But I mostly am trying to work out if he is:

a) Playing the game and is a very good actor and is planning on using big brother as his audition tape for neighbours.
b) Inlove with Josie and doesn't want to start stuff on TV because hes a private person and doesn't want to make a show of his romance
c) ACTUALLY does liken his and Josie's relationship to Caoimhe and Shabbys.

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The guy has spend weeks in very close proximity to a master manipulator who has isolated him from everyone else and told him over and over what to think about himself, how he feels about others and when to take a $hit, no wonder his head is mince.
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I think out of your options b is the most accurate.

He has low self esteem dispite his good looks and does come across as a somewhat shy person when it comes to sex.

Part of his problem is that he is easilly wound up by others. Ben in the nest mentioned the Caoimhe/Shabby comparison today (in the HL show), and he later said it to Josie.

Also I don't believe he is bipolar, I think he suffers from paranoia, he admitted to recording all his friends conversations, like who does that?
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I think his bio on the c4 homepage should be read by everyone, especially the "i would do anything to win" part.

IMO actor, perhaps with an earplug under the hat.
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I think it could be C.

This is because I think John James is very aware that he is leading Josie on, he wants to lead her on because it will gain him a lot of air time (which has proven to have worked), and also because hes going for the girl unlucky in love, rather than some tart, which will make him look very good.

However hes realised that his situation is similar to Shabby and Caoimhe's, with him taken up Caoimhe's role which naturally is the worst of the two as she was the one leading on, and Shabby the one who got hurt, which Josie fits as. Hes now in fear that he'll look bad and will boost Josie's chances on winning sky high, so has pulled out and now needs to decide if he will get with her or tell her straight that they are only friends, and stop the fumbling about. Seems hes gone with option 1, as it comes with lots of juicy air time and showmances often are popular.
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(firstly i think it is worth considering everyone on the show exaggerates their personality in their VT and everyone who goes on the show would like to win)

I think B. Low self esteem + paranoia = teased by people (which he says has happened) + probably hurt by friends (which must have happened otherwise he wouldn't feel as though he should record his freinds' conversations).

He reminds me of Stuart from last year who was attractive and had said that he worked out to make himself look different and better than when he was teased at school. Just think, if JJ didn't have muscle, he would be soooo skinny, he excursuses and worries about his appearance because his has self image issues which spawn from low self esteem and low confidence in himself, which were caused by teasing in earlier life. [we are all a product of our childhood] (stress on IN HIMSELF, he can appear confident with things not about himself)
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interesting posts here.
sometimes i forget he is insecure, he hides it so well.
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Possibly B

Although I think he could have just accidently gotten so close to her that he has dug himself into a hole he can't get out of and thinks far to much of her to hurt her in anyway shape or form
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Although I think he could have just accidently gotten so close to her that he has dug himself into a hole he can't get out of and thinks far to much of her to hurt her in anyway shape or form
This is absolutely what I think. I think he actually fancies Corin but his chance with her has gone.
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It's a tough one, what I can't work out is the fact he tells everyone he has these strong feelings for her and so forth, yet tonight he was saying "sorry, i can't do it to you josie "as he walked out the house..what I want to know is what can't he do to her?

Is he following a pre ordained story line, is he a mole, an actor or what..something just doesn't ring true..

the way he droops his head when he isn't leading the conversation as well draws suspicion from me, it's like he's ashamed of whats around the corner...whats that about!! grr, I wish I knew..


But that "i'm sorry josie" statement has really annoyed me, because he obviously does like her so much that he doesn't want to hurt her,but how will he hurt her if they had already agreed that it's not the right place for anything to happen?

..so to me it's like he has something planned further down the line that he doesn't want to do!!
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It's a tough one, what I can't work out is the fact he tells everyone he has these strong feelings for her and so forth, yet tonight he was saying "sorry, i can't do it to you josie "as he walked out the house..what I want to know is what can't he do to her?
He meant he didn't want to upset her.
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I've seen him described as schizophrenic, has Asperger's Syndrome, psychotic, sociopath, and now bi polar.

It's dead interesting how out of all the housemates he is the one that so many people feel the need to diagnose...well it is to me anyway....he'll never come anywhere near Shabaz for me in terms of 'issues'...
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A! But, he didn't reckon on josie being equally manipulative and getting into his head! I think hes playing the game as is she!
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Sorry I didnt really read the title of the thread and thought it was for people who liked anal sex. My mistake, too many glasses of wine.
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The thing I like about John James is He's in it to win it, he's loyal to his mum, he's a scrappy little survivor.

Go JJ! JJ FTW
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But I don't think he isn't making a move because he's a private person, I think he's ashamed to be seen dating a fatlass to be perfectly honest.
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Okay, like Sir drama crab-eyes John James himself, I enjoy to analyse and interpret peoples behaviour in successfully understanding them better, however, I am struggling with John James.


On the one hand, he is suffering with some kind of case of bi-polar and constantly changes his mind about Josie and his affections toward her, OR on the other hand he is infact playing the game and is doing this constant changing his mind to attract attention and cause us all to enjoy watching his crazy emotions and thus making good tv. He does always seem to be in shot, I have almost forgotten the other housemates. He does have the highest IQ (or so I read on here) and i'm not altogether surprised, you can tell hes intelligent. But I mostly am trying to work out if he is:

a) Playing the game and is a very good actor and is planning on using big brother as his audition tape for neighbours.
b) Inlove with Josie and doesn't want to start stuff on TV because hes a private person and doesn't want to make a show of his romance
c) ACTUALLY does liken his and Josie's relationship to Caoimhe and Shabbys.

Please do not share your opinion if it is merely 'john dont lyk josie coz she iz fat' -because that useless and incorrect.
He is bascially emotionally immature and lost independence, confidence and developed low self esteem due to his dads death. He basically see's Josie as a mother figue. She is pushing it and trying to turn it into something sexual, which it really isn't. Also JJ's Dad used to get jealous of the relationship between JJ and his mum, now think on that...

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He is bascially emotionally immature and lost independence, confidence and developed low self esteem due to his dads death. He basically see's Josie as a mother figue. She is pushing it and trying to turn it into something sexual, which it really isn't. Also JJ's Dad used to get jealous of the relationship between JJ and his mum, now think on that...
Not so much Big Brother as Oedipus Rex.

I think you summed it up quite nicely there InOne.
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I think Josie is like JJ's comfort blanket, he doesn't feel he can really identify with anybody else in there, he ventures out now and again to interact with others and then runs back to a 'safe' place (ie substitute mum Josie's arms) afterwards. I agree we might have seen a very different JJ1 if JJ2 had been in from the start (though I think JJ2 is a plant, do any of them remember him from the time they spent together before the show?)

I was hoping that when he got out of bed to check on Keeva he'd realised how much Josie manipulates everyone but I don't think he has. I believe he genuinely would have left the house if they hadn't stopped him, the thought of being in there without his comfort blanket was just too much for him.

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