[luminoussun]

I have noticed that josie rules the house and if anyone dare upset queen josie they feel the wrath of her subjects....king john james usually does not have to get involved....her loyal knights sir andrew and jj come to her rescue followed by the mad monk.

[Zippy]

Thats not her fault. And she does stick up for herself. Like with Sam. In fact I think she handles him pretty well and mostly has fun with him. Which is why he keeps going back for more.

[billy123]

not anymore she doesnt she had a face like a slapped arse all day/night yesterday after sam served her up her crappy attitude on a plate for her to chew on it was fun to see.
andrew tried his serious face grumpy git trick again to try and defend josy but that just looked stupid too
sam made them look idiots and jj just giggled like a gimp well done sam.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by luminoussun

I have noticed that josie rules the house and if anyone dare upset queen josie they feel the wrath of her subjects....king john james usually does not have to get involved....her loyal knights sir andrew and jj come to her rescue followed by the mad monk.

That's the only thing I am disappointed about in Dave - that he hasn't seen through the madam yet! Too nice for his own good!

[Patricia4]

Originally Posted by bobnot

not anymore she doesnt she had a face like a slapped arse all day/night yesterday after sam served her up her crappy attitude on a plate for her to chew on it was fun to see.
andrew tried his serious face grumpy git trick again to try and defend josy but that just looked stupid too
sam made them look idiots and jj just giggled like a gimp well done sam.

It was just great

[smudgie]

I think Josie will see a big difference in the house now Sam is in. The housemates could well have their eyes opened to her.

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by smudgie

I think Josie will see a big difference in the house now Sam is in. The housemates could well have their eyes opened to her.

Eyes opened to what? She hasn't slagged any of them behind their backs so you can't say she's been false with any of them. Seems to me all her bad faults are associated with her feelings for JJ. Before all that she was a straightforward fun girl in there for a laugh.

I think some are building her up to be some big villain when she really hasnt done anything bad to deserve it. She's not bad just because you want her to be.

[Shiner]

Originally Posted by Zippy

Eyes opened to what? She hasn't slagged any of them behind their backs so you can't say she's been false with any of them. Seems to me all her bad faults are associated with her feelings for JJ. Before all that she was a straightforward fun girl in there for a laugh.

I think some are building her up to be some big villain when she really hasnt done anything bad to deserve it. She's not bad just because you want her to be.

You are kidding right? I can't think of one person including her beloved that she hasn't had a pop at.

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by Shiner

You are kidding right? I can't think of one person including her beloved that she hasn't had a pop at.

Examples plz?

[LeatherTrumpet]

she dominates

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

she dominates

She dominates via popularity. She has always been well liked in the house. Which should tell you that she can't be a bad person.

And still waiting for all these examples of her slagging other HMs off? Maybe I missed all that.

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Zippy

Eyes opened to what? She hasn't slagged any of them behind their backs so you can't say she's been false with any of them. Seems to me all her bad faults are associated with her feelings for JJ. Before all that she was a straightforward fun girl in there for a laugh.

I think some are building her up to be some big villain when she really hasnt done anything bad to deserve it. She's not bad just because you want her to be.

You could not be more wrong, I don't want her to be bad, she was my favoured one. I loved her sense of humour.
You do not have to slag anyone off behind their backs to be false. She is more subtle than that. Just a case of I don't believe all that she says, portraying herself as some sort of innocent dim fool when she is far from it.
Horses for courses, we all see what we want to see I suppose.

[Shiner]

Originally Posted by Zippy

Examples plz?

Well, the biggest example would be the Keeva slagging. I don't think it's worth going too deep into this because if you can't see it now then you probably never will unless she came round to your house and admitted it to your face.

[Shiner]

Originally Posted by smudgie

You could not be more wrong, I don't want her to be bad, she was my favoured one. I loved her sense of humour.
You do not have to slag anyone off behind their backs to be false. She is more subtle than that. Just a case of I don't believe all that she says, portraying herself as some sort of innocent dim fool when she is far from it.
Horses for courses, we all see what we want to see I suppose.

She was up there with my faves too to begin with but then I saw through the jokey exterior and how she actually manipulates with those jokes.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Shiner

She was up there with my faves too to begin with but then I saw through the jokey exterior and how she actually manipulates with those jokes.

Same here!

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by Shiner

Well, the biggest example would be the Keeva slagging. I don't think it's worth going too deep into this because if you can't see it now then you probably never will unless she came round to your house and admitted it to your face.

Sorry, I don't accept Cameltoe as an undeserving target of Josie's. Not to drag it all up again but Cameltoe has admitted that she was making her jealous but "for a laugh". Josie may have not grasped that and its not hard to understand why really. Jealousy is an unflattering trait and Cameltoe shouldnt be playing those games with a so called friend.

So Cameltoe is not a good example of anything accept stupid games and understandable jealousy.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Zippy

Eyes opened to what? She hasn't slagged any of them behind their backs so you can't say she's been false with any of them. Seems to me all her bad faults are associated with her feelings for JJ. Before all that she was a straightforward fun girl in there for a laugh.

I think some are building her up to be some big villain when she really hasnt done anything bad to deserve it. She's not bad just because you want her to be.

she's slagged dave off behind his back and nominated him on a weekly basis, yet swoons over him in the house.Not to mention her little bitch about rachel on last nights highlights show as well.

[Shiner]

Originally Posted by Zippy

Sorry, I don't accept Cameltoe as an undeserving target of Josie's. Not to drag it all up again but Cameltoe has admitted that she was making her jealous but "for a laugh". Josie may have not grasped that and its not hard to understand why really. Jealousy is an unflattering trait and Cameltoe shouldnt be playing those games with a so called friend.

So Cameltoe is not a good example of anything accept stupid games and understandable jealousy.

Well, if you choose not to accept the biggest example of her slagging someone off then I rest my case about what it would take for you to accept any of the other more human examples the rest of us have seen and know about.

[LukeBBukfan]

I think sam does'nt realise what he getting himself if he upsets Josie then John James,JJ and Andrew will stick up for her I think sam may have to watch what he says to Josie

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by parmnion

she's slagged dave off behind his back and nominated him on a weekly basis, yet swoons over him in the house.

What did she say and how does she swoon over him exactly? She's had disagreements with him and has nominated him. Big deal. Thats BB.

She gets on with everybody so she's always gonna look a hypocrite whoever she noms.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Zippy

What did she say and how does she swoon over him exactly? She's had disagreements with him and has nominated him. Big deal. Thats BB.

She gets on with everybody so she's always gonna look a hypocrite whoever she noms.

she's called him a wierdo and a dickhead, and what about her little bitch about rachel last night..

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by LukeBBukfan

I think sam does'nt realise what he getting himself if he upsets Josie then John James,JJ and Andrew will stick up for her I think sam may have to watch what he says to Josie

I hope not - pointless putting him in otherwise! The whole idea of putting him in is because he won't be intimidated by those idiots - and will stir up an otherwise stagnent pot!

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by Shiner

Well, if you choose not to accept the biggest example of her slagging someone off then I rest my case about what it would take for you to accept any of the other more human examples the rest of us have seen and know about.

Huh? I accept she slagged her off Im saying it was thoroughly deserved. Cameltoe isnt innocent regards slagging folk off either and was treading on another womans toes...for whatever reason. I just understand how Josie may have taken it the wrong way and not appreciated her for doing it. Its really not hard to understand.

And nobody looks pretty when jealous but we're all capable of it.

[Shiner]

Originally Posted by Zippy

Huh? I accept she slagged her off Im saying it was thoroughly deserved. Cameltoe isnt innocent regards slagging folk off either and was treading on another womans toes...for whatever reason. I just understand how Josie may have taken it the wrong way and not appreciated her for doing it. Its really not hard to understand.

And nobody looks pretty when jealous but we're all capable of it.

I'm sure you are capable of justifying her slagging anyone off but that doesn't deter from the fact that she does do it and you said she didn't*. Whether or not you feel they "deserved it" doesn't make it any nicer.

*

Originally Posted by Zippy

...She hasn't slagged any of them behind their backs.....

Did JJ "deserve it" when she went around everyone spreading her crap about him before the fauxmance kicked in properly?

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by Shiner

I'm sure you are capable of justifying her slagging anyone off but that doesn't deter from the fact that she does do it and you said she didn't*. Whether or not you feel they "deserved it" doesn't make it any nicer.

*

Did JJ "deserve it" when she went around everyone spreading her crap about him before the fauxmance kicked in properly?

If you feel strongly that somebody has done you wrong then OF COURSE youre gonna speak badly about them. Jesus!

And she was slagging JJ off to his face at that time too so it wasnt really behind his back. He was moaning and bitching incessantly back then and constantly looking for arguements. She hated him for it and told him so. The whole house noticed it so she wasnt alone.