[fruit_cake]

he was stirring it up behind her back saying how he knew someone had been bitching about her but not telling her who it was. He's lost all my respect, poor Jem doesn't deserve that at all

[Angus]

I have no problem with game playing, since they are all doing it in one way or another. But the sheer malice, spite and hatred spewing from Jay and Anton is way out of order. Do they seriously think either of them have any chance whatsoever of getting to the final, never mind winning, when we can all see them for what they are? - a pair of nasty, deluded, cowards.

[chuff me dizzy]

What i cannot understand is when she went in the house Jem had sussed Anton out, but now believes his lies? She nominated Jay because he was a trouble causer,but shes fell for his lies too !!

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by angus58

I have no problem with game playing, since they are all doing it in one way or another. But the sheer malice, spite and hatred spewing from Jay and Anton is way out of order. Do they seriously think either of them have any chance whatsoever of getting to the final, never mind winning, when we can all see them for what they are? - a pair of nasty, deluded, cowards.

This is why you MUST vote for Jem tonight, its VERY close between her and Anton, IF Anton,Jay leaves the nice hm8s will suss out WE have seen them, WE have seen the lies and the spite, then Jay will go next week ,If you dont vote you are condoning Anton,Jays vile actions

[jo1791]

From what I saw last night, Jay told Jem and Faye to their faces...

Aaron would have done just the same and I class him as a coward for not speaking up about Jem and Louise when Harry was being particularly nasty about them!

Now Harry is the one who is being nice to their face and then calling them once their back is turned...!

[jo1791]

Don't save Jem, she wants to go anyway....

Keep Anton!!

[Visage]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

What i cannot understand is when she went in the house Jem had sussed Anton out, but now believes his lies? She nominated Jay because he was a trouble causer,but shes fell for his lies too !!

Not forgetting Anton puts her up for the public vote this week and she still believes him....

[jo1791]

Originally Posted by Visage

Not forgetting Anton puts her up for the public vote this week and she still believes him....

What choice did he have, Jem was the obvious choice to make and I don't think she fell for his excuse.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

he was stirring it up behind her back saying how he knew someone had been bitching about her but not telling her who it was. He's lost all my respect, poor Jem doesn't deserve that at all

Again I agree with you, I never liked Jay anyway but he was not only malicious the way he was doing it but also cowardly in that he was loading the gun but leaving Anton to fire the bullets.

Jemma knew Anton was a liar though,I really am amazed she would believe a word he said after what she saw before she went in the house.

She doesn't deserve it, she shouldn't even be up for eviction,it should just be those 2 false and hypocritical liars facing the public vote this week, no one else.

How she hasn't worked out it's lies they are telling surprises me in the fact that Anton chose her to be up for eviction too this week, if they were really concerned about people talking about her, she must be asking why Anton chose her and not one of the supposed people saying bad things about her.

Surely she can work that out, she's an intelligent woman.

[Visage]

Originally Posted by jo1791

What choice did he have, Jem was the obvious choice to make and I don't think she fell for his excuse.

I'm talking about Jem believing what Anton had said even though he voted her, questioning why she would believe in him. Not about why Anton put her up against him.

[exoticrosebud]

Jem had seen the show prior to going in! she vowed to stir it up with the trouble makers...did she ?? no. just whined on and on about faye and anton and tried to break them up....bit of jealousy there ??? and why dont they show the bit were Jay and Anton were discussing her so called age of errrrrrrrr 25 i think they said she was supposed to be..and the nasty comment they made after.....Jem looked like a frurstrated headmistress in the diary room after her pupils had let her down at break time ! waste of space.

[soundslike]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

he was stirring it up behind her back saying how he knew someone had been bitching about her but not telling her who it was. He's lost all my respect, poor Jem doesn't deserve that at all

Thats not being nasty to her though is it? He didn't call her names or be spiteful to her, he is just playing a game with her big difference.

[psychtracker]

Originally Posted by Visage

I'm talking about Jem believing what Anton had said even though he voted her, questioning why she would believe in him. Not about why Anton put her up against him.

Yeah well, that's Jem's fault then..if she's had the benefit of watching the show.

I think Anton & Jay where fairly accurate on what Harry was saying to Aaron about Jem. If memory serves he said some worse stuff about Jem before they where in the Crypt, so he was a bit lucky!! He should have been more on guard, like Aaron was, knowing they'd be likely watching, and come back to spill the beans!

[auntysplat]

Originally Posted by angus58

I have no problem with game playing, since they are all doing it in one way or another. But the sheer malice, spite and hatred spewing from Jay and Anton is way out of order. Do they seriously think either of them have any chance whatsoever of getting to the final, never mind winning, when we can all see them for what they are? - a pair of nasty, deluded, cowards.

We need a double eviction to get them out, Their attitude is out of order, at least Harry and Aaron are not as low as them.

[joeysteele]

What really astounds me and particularly as to Jemma,who I see as being strong is this.

No matter who it was or what it was about, if someone told me that someone had been talking about me negatively I would immediately go and confront them, if necessary I would say in Jemma's case, ''Harry what is this Anton says you have been saying about me'', and collared Aaron too as he carefully implicated him in it too.

That is firstly, the only way to get at the facts,Anton and Jay would have had to answer why they said that but, secondly too, it would likely stop them from being so manipulative with comments as to others in the future.

Further, being in the BB house, I would have asked BB to see the comments, as they were about me, if they were said as Anton and Jay said they were, if BB would not do so,I would assume it was Anton and Jay's gameplaying.
Which Jemma knew full well about when she went in so I am amazed she cannot work out they are stirring.

[psychtracker]

I guess the thing is, it was known that Jay & Anton had been watching footage. Seemed like Harry had gone to ground, knowing he was in a bit of trouble. She was probably taking what they said on face value until she heard Harry's side..

[psychtracker]

We have to remember here that Harry gave em the ammunition...without that they would've been screwed!!