[the truth]

1) jay doesnt judge everything and everyone all day every day
2) jay isnt such a hypocrite. he is what he is. he loves the ladies, hes a chav but has a good heart
3) jay always tries to communicate with all housemates even when theyre not his best mates
4) jay doesnt deliberately try and get cheap attention by dragging down the whole house with endless boring petty strops about nothing
5) jay didnt pretend to agree to group vote then go back on how word at the last minute like aaron did pretending it was a moral decison?
6) jay is less superficial than aaron. aaron judges people but trivial nonsense like belching or clothes but not by the qualities beneath
7) jay has never ignored anyone in 10 weeks. aaron ignores people whenever it suits his gameplan
8) aaron tried to be pompous about being interested in bigger things. jay tried to raise the standard of conversation and aaron had nothing to say. what a fraud
9) jay has treated louise well. she has treated him well. they lift each others spirits. aaron ruined whatever hopes faye ad as he endlessly toyed with her emotions. basically hes behaved like a stroppy childish selfish 18 year old girl.
10) jay stayed and lsitened and respected all housemates and tasks. aaron sabotaged several yet when someone else did so, he went in as trop for days

aaron is the most cold blooded calculated mean spirited selfish housemate since the idiotic nasty nick and his see through plan. I dont think es a bore because of his clothes or that he doesnt have sex. nope. I dont care about that and I dont believe a word he says anyway. I dont like his character, his qualities beneath the surface. the ONLy thing I even half res[ected him for is that he doesnt always go with the crowd. trouble is thats not because he sticks up for the underdog its just a preplanned tactic so that he can get all the attention.

anyone who thinks his qualities and character deserve to be a winner is a very morally confused person.

Im not mad keen on most of the housemates but louise has been sweet , tom has been great fun with interesting opinions, jay has been genuine throughout.

[Vicky.]

Ok

[Pyramid*]

I read.

I

[DoM-h]

Maybe your post would be more valid if it had capitals at the beginning of every sentence

[fruit_cake]

he has been genuine I guess, but he's just been far too gross for me.

[the truth]

Try thinking for yourselves guys. shaving your bumfluff doesnt make you a bad person neither does the odd belch. but playing with an insecure girls emotions 24/7 for 10 weeks on live tv, going into daily strops over nothing, ignoring people then using them when it suits you etc etc These are all things Aaron has done for 10 weeks it takes a huge degree of ruthlessness and selfishness. But then again if capital letters at the beginning of every sentence or the odd belch is more important to you than breaking peoples hearts and being mean selfish and nasty, then maybe that says something about you guys on here too?

[Mumbles]

Originally Posted by the truth

1) jay doesnt judge everything and everyone all day every day

He was pretty judgemental in the crypt.

2) jay isnt such a hypocrite. he is what he is. he loves the ladies, hes a chav but has a good heart

Everyone is what they are. The rest of this point is a matter of opinion.

3) jay always tries to communicate with all housemates even when theyre not his best mates

Which shows he is a bit of a hypocrite, or at best two-faced.

4) jay doesnt deliberately try and get cheap attention by dragging down the whole house with endless boring petty strops about nothing

I don't suppose Aaron deliberately tried to get cheap attention by dragging down the house, he was just having a strop. And with BB on his case for most of the time I'm not surprised.

5) jay didnt pretend to agree to group vote then go back on how word at the last minute like aaron did pretending it was a moral decison?

Again, a matter of opinion that it wasn't a moral decision.

6) jay is less superficial than aaron. aaron judges people but trivial nonsense like belching or clothes but not by the qualities beneath

Superficial, like saying someone looks fat, or someone is boring?

7) jay has never ignored anyone in 10 weeks. aaron ignores people whenever it suits his gameplan

Some of the other housemates in there deserve ignoring. It's preferable to rising to their antagonistic behaviour.

8) aaron tried to be pompous about being interested in bigger things. jay tried to raise the standard of conversation and aaron had nothing to say. what a fraud

Tried and failed. We didn't see the full conversations anyway, there was obviously more to them that we didn't see. And Jay's motives for doing so were questionable anyway.

9) jay has treated louise well. she has treated him well. they lift each others spirits. aaron ruined whatever hopes faye ad as he endlessly toyed with her emotions. basically hes behaved like a stroppy childish selfish 18 year old girl.

He's been quite snappy with Louise lately, and if Aaron treated Faye so badly she'd hardly proclaim to have had the happiest time of her life and stuck by Aaron and defended him after she came out.

10) jay stayed and lsitened and respected all housemates and tasks. aaron sabotaged several yet when someone else did so, he went in as trop for days

Aaron sabotaging tasks was far more entertaining than them passing them. And look how stroppy (and aggressive) Jay got at the prospect of limited budgets or no food.

[Doodleydo]

Originally Posted by the truth

1) jay doesnt judge everything and everyone all day every day
2) jay isnt such a hypocrite. he is what he is. he loves the ladies, hes a chav but has a good heart
3) jay always tries to communicate with all housemates even when theyre not his best mates
4) jay doesnt deliberately try and get cheap attention by dragging down the whole house with endless boring petty strops about nothing
5) jay didnt pretend to agree to group vote then go back on how word at the last minute like aaron did pretending it was a moral decison?
6) jay is less superficial than aaron. aaron judges people but trivial nonsense like belching or clothes but not by the qualities beneath
7) jay has never ignored anyone in 10 weeks. aaron ignores people whenever it suits his gameplan
8) aaron tried to be pompous about being interested in bigger things. jay tried to raise the standard of conversation and aaron had nothing to say. what a fraud
9) jay has treated louise well. she has treated him well. they lift each others spirits. aaron ruined whatever hopes faye ad as he endlessly toyed with her emotions. basically hes behaved like a stroppy childish selfish 18 year old girl.
10) jay stayed and lsitened and respected all housemates and tasks. aaron sabotaged several yet when someone else did so, he went in as trop for days

aaron is the most cold blooded calculated mean spirited selfish housemate since the idiotic nasty nick and his see through plan. I dont think es a bore because of his clothes or that he doesnt have sex. nope. I dont care about that and I dont believe a word he says anyway. I dont like his character, his qualities beneath the surface. the ONLy thing I even half res[ected him for is that he doesnt always go with the crowd. trouble is thats not because he sticks up for the underdog its just a preplanned tactic so that he can get all the attention.

anyone who thinks his qualities and character deserve to be a winner is a very morally confused person.

Im not mad keen on most of the housemates but louise has been sweet , tom has been great fun with interesting opinions, jay has been genuine throughout.

This ^^

[Brother Leon]

11. Anton wants him to win.

[chuff me dizzy]

Each to their own as they say,but not for me ,thanks,but no thanks

[the truth]

yes jay got moody after weeks on bananas and flakes as aaron and the posh bloke sabotaged task after task. hilarious>? nope. jay is a big guy about 15 stones and eats a lot. the man was plain hungry. the whole sabotaging endless tasks is mindlessly dull stupid boring and pointless

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by the truth

yes jay got moody after weeks on bananas and flakes as aaron and the posh bloke sabotaged task after task. hilarious>? nope. jay is a big guy about 15 stones and eats a lot. the man was plain hungry. the whole sabotaging endless tasks is mindlessly dull stupid boring and pointless

Correct me if Im wrong,but who was the first to pull out of the rowing task saying"******* it" ?

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by DoM-h

Maybe your post would be more valid if it had capitals at the beginning of every sentence

Now don't be daft.....it's a thread about Jay deserving to win over Aaron - that AUTOMATICALLY makes the thread invalid surely!!

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Correct me if Im wrong,but who was the first to pull out of the rowing task saying"******* it" ?

*Drums fingers on chin and contemplates question*

Now...it wouldn't happen to have been JAY ....... would it.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

*Drums fingers on chin and contemplates question*

Now...it wouldn't happen to have been JAY ....... would it.

Got it in one my good Pyramid !!

[Angus]

Originally Posted by the truth

1) jay doesnt judge everything and everyone all day every day
Jay is constantly sniping about Aaron and more so now he knows Aaron is more popular than he is!
2) jay isnt such a hypocrite. he is what he is. he loves the ladies, hes a chav but has a good heart
Jay IS a hypocrite, he pretends to be a straight up guy, but lies through his teeth when confronted.
3) jay always tries to communicate with all housemates even when theyre not his best mates
Jay can't stand it when people don't acknowledge that he is boss of the house (in his tiny mind). Aaron is not interested in chatting about sh*t, farting and deviant sexual acts and doesn't feel the need to curry favour by pretending to be interested.
4) jay doesnt deliberately try and get cheap attention by dragging down the whole house with endless boring petty strops about nothing
Jay is an intimidating, mardy bully when he doesn't get his own way, or if he's deprived of his food.
5) jay didnt pretend to agree to group vote then go back on how word at the last minute like aaron did pretending it was a moral decison?
Aaron already said he was going to vote his own way, and not try to cheat in the noms. Jay was just trying to save his own skin.
6) jay is less superficial than aaron. aaron judges people but trivial nonsense like belching or clothes but not by the qualities beneath
Jay is totally superficial, and shallow as a puddle. He has zero social awareness or consideration for other people's sensibilities. He is totally dazzled by exteriors else he'd be with Alex not Louise.
7) jay has never ignored anyone in 10 weeks. aaron ignores people whenever it suits his gameplan
Jay's way of dealing with frustration is to shout and be aggressive, punching cushions, trampelling food and making threats. Aaron's is to take himself out of the situation. Everyone in the house has a game plan and anyone who thinks otherwise is watching the wrong game show.
8) aaron tried to be pompous about being interested in bigger things. jay tried to raise the standard of conversation and aaron had nothing to say. what a fraud
Aaron is ACTUALLY interested in bigger things and what's more can talk knowledgeably about them, Jay is thick as two short planks and his sorry attempts to "raise the standard of conversation" were pitiful and laughable. Aaron can't respond to points not made.
9) jay has treated louise well. she has treated him well. they lift each others spirits. aaron ruined whatever hopes faye ad as he endlessly toyed with her emotions. basically hes behaved like a stroppy childish selfish 18 year old girl.
Jay just wants to bang Louise till "her lungs pop", once he has had her he'll move on. Aaron was on the receiving end of being toyed with by Faye, he has never nommed her and in fact tried to increase her chances of survival by putting himself up for eviction.
10) jay stayed and lsitened and respected all housemates and tasks. aaron sabotaged several yet when someone else did so, he went in as trop for days
Aaron and Harry sabotaged tasks which provided terrific entertainment and deprived greedy Jay of his food thereby sending him into a strop for a full week.
aaron is the most cold blooded calculated mean spirited selfish housemate since the idiotic nasty nick and his see through plan. I dont think es a bore because of his clothes or that he doesnt have sex. nope. I dont care about that and I dont believe a word he says anyway. I dont like his character, his qualities beneath the surface. the ONLy thing I even half res[ected him for is that he doesnt always go with the crowd. trouble is thats not because he sticks up for the underdog its just a preplanned tactic so that he can get all the attention.
Aaron has carried the show and without him it would have gone down the toilet weeks ago. FACT.
anyone who thinks his qualities and character deserve to be a winner is a very morally confused person.
I think you'll find it's Jay that is a morally confused person with his vile, obnoxious, obscene views on women and their role in society. He has zero social awareness, and is a neanderthal in every way. I'm baffled that he has any fans.
Im not mad keen on most of the housemates but louise has been sweet , tom has been great fun with interesting opinions, jay has been genuine throughout.

Jay has been a genuine plonker throughout alright. I mean a 27 year old man starting a gang is beyond pathetic.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Mumbles

He was pretty judgemental in the crypt.



Everyone is what they are. The rest of this point is a matter of opinion.



Which shows he is a bit of a hypocrite, or at best two-faced.



I don't suppose Aaron deliberately tried to get cheap attention by dragging down the house, he was just having a strop. And with BB on his case for most of the time I'm not surprised.
I DISAGREE 100% ITS NOT A ONE OFF ITS AN HOURLY RITUAL


Again, a matter of opinion that it wasn't a moral decision.

YES IT WAS

Superficial, like saying someone looks fat, or someone is boring?
I JUDGE PEOPLE BY THEIR CHARACTER AND THEIR QUALITIES AND VALUES NOT SUPERFICIAL NONSENSE LIKE BELCHING OR HAIRY ARMPITS.


Some of the other housemates in there deserve ignoring. It's preferable to rising to their antagonistic behaviour.

HE IS THE ANTAGONISTIC ONE WHO FUELS MOST ARGUMENTS. AARON TENDS TO IGNORE IT WHEN PEOPLE BEHAVE IN A FRIENDLY MANNER, HE COMES TO LIFE WHEN THERES ARGUMENT AND UNHAPPINSESS, THATS KIND OF EVIL REALLY

Tried and failed. We didn't see the full conversations anyway, there was obviously more to them that we didn't see. And Jay's motives for doing so were questionable anyway.

NO THEY WERENT. JAY HAS TRIED TO GET ON WITH EVERYONE ALL THE WAY THROUGH. ITS PRETTY DULL TO IGNORE EVERYONE FOR NO REASON MOST OF THE TIME. JAY TRIED HIS UTMOST TO IMRPOVE RELATIONS AND GET A BETTER ATMOSPHERE IN THERE. HE ALSO SHOWED MORE PASSION FOR THE SUBJECTS AARON ALLEGEDLY LIKES, AARON HAD NOTHING TO SAY TOTAL FRAUD.

He's been quite snappy with Louise lately, and if Aaron treated Faye so badly she'd hardly proclaim to have had the happiest time of her life and stuck by Aaron and defended him after she came out.

NOT PARTICULARLY. HES CERTAINLY NEVER HURT HER OR REDUCED HER TO TEARS ENDLESSLY. IM NOT BLAMING AARON ENTIRELY FOR FAYS MOOD SWINGS THOUGH(I LOOK AT BOTH SIDES OF EVERY ARGUMENT UNIKE THE ONE EYED AARON FANS HERE). BUT HE WAS PLAYING HER MOST OF THE TIME.

Aaron sabotaging tasks was far more entertaining than them passing them. And look how stroppy (and aggressive) Jay got at the prospect of limited budgets or no food.

NO IT WAS INTERESTING IT WAS MINDLESSLY DUMB IGNORANT BORING AND SELFISH. he then went oon to lecture others when they sabotaged tasks.
I notive aaron and harry had zero humour when the others dyed some tshirts? they sabotaged hundreds of pounds on task after task. yet they went berserk over a few discoloured tshirts and pants. total hypocrites

Before you get all preachy like your anti hero aaron , about capital letters (again superficial stuff thats more important to you than hurting peoples feelings, morals and values) I put my answer in capitals as Im quoting to your quotes to my quotes so it makes it easier to differentiate between your words and mine

comprende?

[the truth]

Originally Posted by angus58

Jay has been a genuine plonker throughout alright. I mean a 27 year old man starting a gang is beyond pathetic.

Unlike you I form my own opinions and I dont get them given to me by the likes of victor anton or uber bore aaron

[Roy Mars III]

Originally Posted by the truth

Unlike you I form my own opinions and I dont get them given to me by the likes of victor anton or uber bore aaron

I think just about everyone does that.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by the truth

Unlike you I form my own opinions and I dont get them given to me by the likes of victor anton or uber bore aaron

So anyone who disagrees with you does not form their own opinions?

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

1 reason why aaron deserves it over jay

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

So anyone who disagrees with you does not form their own opinions?

no just the ones who need to quote people like victor or anton to support them. thats kind of pathetic

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by angus58

Jay has been a genuine plonker throughout alright. I mean a 27 year old man starting a gang is beyond pathetic.

Originally Posted by the truth

Unlike you I form my own opinions and I dont get them given to me by the likes of victor anton or uber bore aaron

Deary me...... whatever makes you think Angus is unable to voice her own opinion. You are so barking up the wrong tree with that one.

*goes and orders popcorn*

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Got it in one my good Pyramid !!

Yeah.... I iz smart !!

*puts flowers in vase and says thank you*

Originally Posted by the truth

NO IT WAS INTERESTING IT WAS MINDLESSLY DUMB IGNORANT BORING AND SELFISH. he then went oon to lecture others when they sabotaged tasks.
I notive aaron and harry had zero humour when the others dyed some tshirts? they sabotaged hundreds of pounds on task after task. yet they went berserk over a few discoloured tshirts and pants. total hypocrites

Before you get all preachy like your anti hero aaron , about capital letters (again superficial stuff thats more important to you than hurting peoples feelings, morals and values) I put my answer in capitals as Im quoting to your quotes to my quotes so it makes it easier to differentiate between your words and mine

comprende?

You wouldn't be losing the rag, just a little would you?

As for comprende? Personally I prefer the word 'Capiche', sometimes the visual effect has such more oomph.....sometimes a picture says it all.... here, like this:-

[InOne]

After the public made that horrible mistake with Hutton, we must never let a Geordie win again

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Scott

1 reason why aaron deserves it over jay

AARON.


There you go. One word. That's all you need.