[krisharris]

This country is way too sensitive at times. The amount of posts and threads I've seen people saying "I am disgusted with Denise" or "she should be arrested" is RIDICULOUS. Females do this kind of thing! They do stupid things after a few drinks and I'm sure when you're in a house for almost 3 weeks, you kind of forget about the cameras. It's not as if Denise deliberately tried to humiliate Karissa on television.

Denise apologised straight away, and tried to calm the situation.. The whole thing erupted due to the twins clearly wanting to kick off some kind of argument.

Can't people see the twins kicked off to try to turn the other housemates and public on Denise? All the twins have been on about for the past 3 days is nominations (which aren't even happening!), so they obviously thought that making a massive deal out of this would 1) Get Denise more nominations than them, 2) Make Denise unpopular with the public so she would stand more chance of being evicted over them.

Does anybody REALLY think that Karissa felt violated or abused by what happened? All of this is coming from the girls who were paid to be simultaneous girlfriends of an 85-year-old man, who have posed naked in magazines, who have been involved in sex tapes and happily let them been leaked. Shy and reserved? Not a chance. They're just terribly desperate to win this show, and if that means making a 53-year-old woman break-down in tears when all she meant for was a bit of fun, then that's what they'll do.

In a nutshell, I don't believe for one second that Karissa truly felt upset or violated about what happened. They're smart girls, and I think Karissa saw this as a perfect opportunity to turn the housemates, and more importantly the public against Denise. It seems like it's worked, which is a shame.. I would hate to see these girls win this show.

Should Denise win? I don't think so. Give it to Frankie.

[InOne]

Boring, predictable arguments.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I totally agree

[Monkey Slut]

She's extremely irritating...that's it basically.

[Roy Mars III]

I have forgiven her bullying Michael, and did feel bad for her at times in tonigts show. Still don't like her though

[Scotty07]

Originally Posted by krisharris

Should Denise win? I don't think so.

I totally agree with this.

[vortex]

Denise is very annoying and if she's on the booze you can't have an argument with her because things will escalate no matter what.

[Sophiee]

because she's mentally disturbed.

[Scotty07]

Originally Posted by Sophiee

because she's mentally disturbed.

You must say emotionally.

[jasper]

I agree with Krisharris totally.But i wish Denise would lay off the booze

[Livia]

I'm female, I don't get pissed and show everyone my tits, start irrational arguments and demand to be the centre of attention. Not ALL females act like Denise and frankly you insult most of us when you suggest we do.

Denise's problem is that she has an alcohol problem. She can't handle it and should lay off.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by jasper

I agree with Krisharris totally.But i wish Denise would lay off the booze

which is precisely why I dont like her, we have all been there...had one two many and made a total ass of ourselves (well I have), BUT I didnt go out the next night and do exactly the same thing...last night when the argument was in full swing, the Twins were on water, Nicola was on lemonade...but Denise was still swigging an alcopops, she uses it as a crutch, she is a mess and while Im sure she is a very nice woman when she is sober, when she had a drink she is a total nightmare, if she wins this, it will be a travesty.

[HBB1508]

Totally agree with the OP IMO the twins took a step too far on this one and their diatribe in the diary room just totally turned me off them. I'm not a Denise fan but I did feel for her in there last night. The only one who came out well for me was Frankie so I hope he goes on to win now.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by krisharris

This country is way too sensitive at times. The amount of posts and threads I've seen people saying "I am disgusted with Denise" or "she should be arrested" is RIDICULOUS. Females do this kind of thing! They do stupid things after a few drinks and I'm sure when you're in a house for almost 3 weeks, you kind of forget about the cameras. It's not as if Denise deliberately tried to humiliate Karissa on television.

Denise apologised straight away, and tried to calm the situation.. The whole thing erupted due to the twins clearly wanting to kick off some kind of argument.

Can't people see the twins kicked off to try to turn the other housemates and public on Denise? All the twins have been on about for the past 3 days is nominations (which aren't even happening!), so they obviously thought that making a massive deal out of this would 1) Get Denise more nominations than them, 2) Make Denise unpopular with the public so she would stand more chance of being evicted over them.

Does anybody REALLY think that Karissa felt violated or abused by what happened? All of this is coming from the girls who were paid to be simultaneous girlfriends of an 85-year-old man, who have posed naked in magazines, who have been involved in sex tapes and happily let them been leaked. Shy and reserved? Not a chance. They're just terribly desperate to win this show, and if that means making a 53-year-old woman break-down in tears when all she meant for was a bit of fun, then that's what they'll do.

In a nutshell, I don't believe for one second that Karissa truly felt upset or violated about what happened. They're smart girls, and I think Karissa saw this as a perfect opportunity to turn the housemates, and more importantly the public against Denise. It seems like it's worked, which is a shame.. I would hate to see these girls win this show.

Should Denise win? I don't think so. Give it to Frankie.

Denise did not try and calm the situation. That's the problem. The silly drunken hag tried to justify her behaviour by saying the twins get there t!ts out for mags so it shouldn't matter. Which of course is ridiculous reasoning spouted by imbeciles.

Then to deflect from her behaviour she dragged up the letter shredding incident that happened days ago. Something that she was perfectly happy to go along with at the time. Telling her group that she doesn't need her letter and agreeing with Gareth that the other group should have theirs. All this faux upset and dramatics were to gain maximum sympathy and to deflect from her own drunken behaviour. She does that alot

The hm's found out that there are no nominations on Sunday afternoon, the row happened Sunday night, so how did they scheme to get Denise nominated?

Why are you speaking of the twins as one housemate? Kristina didn't mind flashing her bra. Karissa did, which is why she didn't flash. It doesn't matter if they've posed nude or made a sex tape. It's irrelevant. Karissa didn't appreciate being exposed, without her consent, by a drunken ole hag.

In a nutshell. Denise is a mess. She's the instigator of the rows in the house. She can't handle her drink. She turns aggressive (Michael, a number of times) or oversteps boundaries (exposing Karissa) and when her bad behaviour is pointed out to her she squeezes out a few tears, relays a sugar-coated version of her behaviour or deflects by bringing up things about others that have zero relevance.

She's made an utter t**t of herself.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by HBB1508

Totally agree with the OP IMO the twins took a step too far on this one and their diatribe in the diary room just totally turned me off them. I'm not a Denise fan but I did feel for her in there last night. The only one who came out well for me was Frankie so I hope he goes on to win now.

The twins had drunk as much alcohol as Denise had. Of course their reaction was over the top.

[Toxic]

I agree, what is wrong with people?

[Clanger]

Denise is a bit of a wild women and I imagine when she is with her own crowd even when pissed is probably kept under control and it’s less likely to go wrong. However she is in a mine field now as she is surrounded by other strong characters who want to win and won’t take no prisoners or tolerate her mad behaviour.

The twins will do anything to win. If you noticed it took a while for it to sink in when the pants where pulled down before the light came on she thought "Oh. Opportunity to bring another one down here". Please don’t tell me anyone believes that this girl was actually embarrassed and felt violated. Nobody surely believes that do they?

Denise may be a bit of a mad cow but those two are nasty pieces of work, in a different league. I suspect many twins voters that actually “liked” them will see that now but will be trying to convince themselves they are still backing the right horse. Those that backed them for the uproar they bring will be loving it even more now!

[HBB1508]

Originally Posted by Livia

The twins had drunk as much alcohol as Denise had. Of course their reaction was over the top.

That maybe the case but IMO they were fully in control of what they were up to and what turned me off was the smug smiling look on their faces when they came out of the diary room which changed back to full attack mode when they went back into the house.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Scotty07

You must say emotionally.

You shouldn't make light of what is a potentionly a very disabling affliction.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Clanger

Denise is a bit of a wild women and I imagine when she is with her own crowd even when pissed is probably kept under control and it’s less likely to go wrong. However she is in a mine field now as she is surrounded by other strong characters who want to win and won’t take no prisoners or tolerate her mad behaviour.

The twins will do anything to win. If you noticed it took a while for it to sink in when the pants where pulled down before the light came on she thought "Oh. Opportunity to bring another one down here". Please don’t tell me anyone believes that this girl was actually embarrassed and felt violated. Nobody surely believes that do they?

Denise may be a bit of a mad cow but those two are nasty pieces of work, in a different league. I suspect many twins voters that actually “liked” them will see that now but will be trying to convince themselves they are still backing the right horse. Those that backed them for the uproar they bring will be loving it even more now!

How about this. In work today, pull down one of your work collegues trousers, exposing their arse. Then ask them if they feel embarrassed or violated?

Denise is much more than a mad cow. She's a manipulative, drunken, mess who's been the instigator of most of the rows in the house.

[rusticgal]

You are right OP.... as I keep saying on here most people who have too many drinks often display behaviour they wouldnt do without a drink. Some people like Denise dance around flashing their tits....some people will do Karaoke after a few drinks and some people get violent..... The twins obviously get argumentative,bitchy and somewhat aggressive. Denise has not done anything wrong....ok she gets on Michaels nerves...she cant be everyones cup of tea.
Its funny how people defend the twins outburst and reaction 'because they had had a drink'.... but dont defend Denise's.....double standards and hyporcritical to say the least.

Denise or Frankie to win!!!

[Livia]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

You are right OP.... as I keep saying on here most people who have too many drinks often display behaviour they wouldnt do without a drink. Some people like Denise dance around flashing their tits....some people will do Karaoke after a few drinks and some people get violent..... The twins obviously get argumentative,bitchy and somewhat aggressive. Denise has not done anything wrong....ok she gets on Michaels nerves...she cant be everyones cup of tea.
Its funny how people defend the twins outburst and reaction 'because they had had a drink'.... but dont defend Denise's.....double standards and hyporcritical to say the least.

Denise or Frankie to win!!!

No one's defending the twins. They behaved as idiotically as Denise always does when she's drunk.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

You are right OP.... as I keep saying on here most people who have too many drinks often display behaviour they wouldnt do without a drink. Some people like Denise dance around flashing their tits....some people will do Karaoke after a few drinks and some people get violent..... The twins obviously get argumentative,bitchy and somewhat aggressive. Denise has not done anything wrong....ok she gets on Michaels nerves...she cant be everyones cup of tea.
Its funny how people defend the twins outburst and reaction 'because they had had a drink'.... but dont defend Denise's.....double standards and hyporcritical to say the least.

Denise or Frankie to win!!!

Denise apologists -

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by MrWong

How about this. In work today, pull down one of your work collegues trousers, exposing their arse. Then ask them if they feel embarrassed or violated?

Denise is much more than a mad cow. She's a manipulative, drunken, mess who's been the instigator of most of the rows in the house.

Denise was not at work.... Denise was in the BB house having drinks with 3 women who make money out of flashing their tits and arse..... one of the twins had previously pulled her jumper up flashing her bra along with Denise.That was on a clip but not shown last night but I saw it.

Completely different scenario.... if you are going to make a comparison keep it real.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by MrWong

Denise apologists -

You crack me up... LOL