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Old 08-06-2013, 10:21 PM #1
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Would you like to see Save & Replace brought back or something similar?

I think I prefer just the normal nominations process if i'm honest and no messing around with results although I think it would be better if hm's had to nominate 3 people instead of just 2.

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Nah, mainly because it was a lot of physical stuff and only the physical knob heads will survive.

Plus it ruined poor Keeley's chances

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Veto > S&R

So Veto and minimum of three people up plz
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So Veto and minimum of three people up plz
What's that?
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What's that?
It's part of the US format. Once the Head of Household has nominated two people, six people (two nominees, the HoH and three people chosen at random) take part in a competition. The winner has the opportunity to save one of the nominees, in which case the HoH must name a replacement nominee. Or they can keep the noms the same, their choice...though obviously an element of the game is trying to influence the winners decision so that it benefits them or people they're close to.

So in the UK you could have a Power of Veto competition and if it was used the winner of it is the one to name a replacement (which I guess is S&R anyway LOL), though everyone should take part, not just the nominees.
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It's part of the US format. Once the Head of Household has nominated two people, six people (two nominees, the HoH and three people chosen at random) take part in a competition. The winner has the opportunity to save one of the nominees, in which case the HoH must name a replacement nominee. Or they can keep the noms the same, their choice...though obviously an element of the game is trying to influence the winners decision so that it benefits them or people they're close to.

So in the UK you could have a Power of Veto competition and if it was used the winner of it is the one to name a replacement (which I guess is S&R anyway LOL), though everyone should take part, not just the nominees.
Interesting. I've never watched the US version so I've never really looked at their nominations process, but it's interesting and different. It could bring a different dynamic to our noms process.
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No. I prefer it when it's jut normal nominations, although I like the idea of nominating three housemates.
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Thought about this and came down on the no side.

It wasn't too bad but I prefer like you Josy, the normal nominations process.
I agree it could be 3 nominations rather than 2.

I actually also wouldn't mind where they vote to save 2 or 3 housemates rather than to nominate them for eviction then the ones with the least saved votes go up, hopefully that may ensure more than 2 are up each week.

Just as happy to see it all left alone though.
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I like the idea of nominating three.

Or maybe introducing a new system where the housemate nominates someone for eviction and someone to save. A kind of + and - points system, then whoever has the most points is up for eviction.
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I'd like to see them nominate three housemates and then obviously the three with the most noms goes up for eviction. Would be interesting to see at least three up to eviction each week. But then again, some of the housemates don't half take an age to nominate, BB would give up half way through.

I thought the Save & Replace process was just a pain in the ass when it was done the other year. If it was tweaked slightly or some of the same effect done differently, then maybe, but the format of the process as it was, was just painful.
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I do want it back, but I'd prefer it if say 3 or 4 housemates that weren't nominated could do the challenge too and keep the noms the same if they want.
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That makes it too gameshow-y and complicated tho

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That makes it too gameshow-y and complicated tho
Trust me, the gameshow element is really interesting to watch. I like you was apprehensive for years and always slated the US format but after giving BBCAN a go I'm converted and regret not ever trying it and judging it unfairly. You should give it a try!

I do like the UK format (I've watched it for 8 years), but I do think it needs updating and I'd really love them to trial a more game orientated format for one series, I think it'd interesting.
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not really, I didn't like it during bb11.
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Tbh I'd also like the HoH format added to our show too, although keeping some elements of the UK format as someone else suggested a few weeks back.

HoH competition, the winner nominates two people.
The rest of the house then nominates as usual, the person with the most noms joins the other two.
Then a Veto competition as I explained where everyone takes part
Once the three nominees are then confirmed, the public votes to save one
The rest of the housemates (other than the HoH and two remaining nominees) then vote to evict one

Continue until there's three left, winner of the last HoH chooses who comes to the final 2 (as in the US, or the public could vote idc) and then a jury of the last six evicted housemates (+ the public being the 7th vote) choose who wins out of the final two.
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Tbh I'd also like the HoH format added to our show too, although keeping some elements of the UK format as someone else suggested a few weeks back.

HoH competition, the winner nominates two people.
The rest of the house then nominates as usual, the person with the most noms joins the other two.
Then a Veto competition as I explained where everyone takes part
Once the three nominees are then confirmed, the public votes to save one
The rest of the housemates (other than the HoH and two remaining nominees) then vote to evict one

Continue until there's three left, winner of the last HoH chooses who comes to the final 2 (as in the US, or the public could vote idc) and then a jury of the last six evicted housemates (+ the public being the 7th vote) choose who wins out of the final two.
Fantastic idea for a revamped format, unfortunately wont happen
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Fantastic idea for a revamped format, unfortunately wont happen
Oh I know, I'd love it though when BB's next axed I think a network should bring it back perhaps under a different name and give a format similar to that a go, we don't have any proper gameshows of that kind on British TV (well, at least none I can think of off the top of my head)
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Oh I know, I'd love it though when BB's next axed I think a network should bring it back perhaps under a different name and give a format similar to that a go, we don't have any proper gameshows of that kind on British TV (well, at least none I can think of off the top of my head)
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I loved this in BB11, one of the few good things about the series. Im all up for the HMs having more of a say keeping their position in the house, rather than us just voting em all out. Its a game show after all.
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I hate the idea of our version of the HoH format. I detested it during BB9.

Id love a shakeup of the nominations format like Josy suggested. With three housemates being nominated every week it would be refreshing to see three or more up for eviction every week.
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I hate the idea of our version of the HoH format. I detested it during BB9.

Id love a shakeup of the nominations format like Josy suggested. With three housemates being nominated every week it would be refreshing to see three or more up for eviction every week.
BB9 was nothing at all like what I've just suggested though, in fact looking back now I know how the US show works it was laughable. Did they even have any power or was it just immunity? I remember Luke and Dale doing a political type speech to become the HoH, it was cringey in hindsight
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I don't like the HoH stuff, don't think our format needs it.

But I'd welcome some actual active chances for the housemates to save themselves from eviction. More actual game playing is a bonus.
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YES! C4 implemented it so poorly though haha.

And 3 nominee minimum puhlease. Having two negates vote to save.
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