[MrMinaj]

Not wishing to start another endless debate on which voting system is better out of `save` and `evict`.
I just want to know, do we have an official reason for why they changed it back ?

It could not have been endemol, as they use vote to `save` on every other big brother around the world as far as I am aware.

I'm sure the big brother execs would not of been happy with the change back, as we have for example seen the old tricks again this year of fixing up nomination results to keep certain characters in, knowing they have more chance of going under the `evict vote` oh how spectacularly that backfired this week!

So does anyone know the ACTUAL reasoning and logic behind it ?

[Marsh.]

I think they saw it as part of going back to the way the show was.

Along with the house design, the age mix of housemates etc it seems they've responded to fans wanting the show to revert back to a lot of the pre-C5 elements but then presumed it included the vote to evict. But then when you point it out, you get people like Emma on BOTS saying "They wanted vote to save, then evict and now they want save back" when that's not technically true.

[CaudleHalbard]

All I know is, when we had VTS, there were endless moans on here and demands we should revert to VTE.

Be careful what you wish for!

[Headie]

I'm as baffled as you are.

Vote To Save generates more money too. If it had been VTS this year, they would've made loads of money because people would have to have picked up the phone and voted multiple times every week to save Dexter & Gina, whereas with VTE they don't need to do anything really.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

I think they saw it as part of going back to the way the show was.

Along with the house design, the age mix of housemates etc it seems they've responded to fans wanting the show to revert back to a lot of the pre-C5 elements but then presumed it included the vote to evict. But then when you point it out, you get people like Emma on BOTS saying "They wanted vote to save, then evict and now they want save back" when that's not technically true.

Yeah, pretty much this

[RichardG]

I don't think we've been given an official reason, but I assumed it was because they were trying to revamp the show. They got rid of Brian Dowling, they completely redesigned the house, they finally gave us a proper title sequence rather than floating heads in the clouds, they had the whole 'secrets and lies' theme. I think they wanted to try and go back to the old C4 days to try and pull more viewers in, hence bringing back VTE as part of the revamp.

[CaudleHalbard]

TBH, I doubt voting generates much money, whatever system you have.

It is the advertising and sponsorship which brings in the bulk of the cash.

[bez87]

Originally Posted by HB123

I'm as baffled as you are.

Vote To Save generates more money too. If it had been VTS this year, they would've made loads of money because people would have to have picked up the phone and voted multiple times every week to save Dexter & Gina, whereas with VTE they don't need to do anything really.

really???? I'm pretty sure we live in a country of moaners and people are alot more up for phoning to get people out than to phone to keep them in, i'm pretty sure channel 5 would of looked at the money side and went with what gets them more, i mean do you actually know the figures or something

[MrMinaj]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

I think they saw it as part of going back to the way the show was.

Along with the house design, the age mix of housemates etc it seems they've responded to fans wanting the show to revert back to a lot of the pre-C5 elements but then presumed it included the vote to evict. But then when you point it out, you get people like Emma on BOTS saying "They wanted vote to save, then evict and now they want save back" when that's not technically true.

The issue I have with this is, the show is now about as far away from how it used to be than ever !!
This weeks outside world task being a prime example.

[CaudleHalbard]

If the show was the way it used to be it would have been cancelled by now due to extremely low ratings.

BB only had high ratings years ago because it has a monopoly as a reality show and it was a novelty. It is now old hat and has loads of competition from other reality-type programmes.

[JPG2502]

slowly losing faith in this channel.
i would be amazed if they used negative voting during the next CBB.
surely there biggest most controversial signings would be out first ?

[rusticgal]

If they were going back to the old ways...then they wouldnt have messed with nominations.
It HAS to be vote to SAVE...then they can mess with noms as much as they want because the public will vote to save the interesting characters all the time.
Last year the crowds boos on eviction night were a complete contrast to the voting.
Now we are left with a boring bunch of housemates...

[Jemal]

Lets be flipping honest here. When there was VTS people were complaining and asking for VTE. Now there's VTE people are moaning for VTS.

[JPG2502]

Originally Posted by Hadouken

Lets be flipping honest here. When there was VTS people were complaining and asking for VTE. Now there's VTE people are moaning for VTS.

im so bemused by this, i rarely used this forum, more digitalspy, and i saw minimal complaining about the change to 'save'.
infact it was widely seen as about the only decent change channel 5 had made to the show when they first took over

[kefln]

People are never happy, they wanted vte back, now it is, they want vts.

VTE is easier to understand, it direct, it does what is says. VTS is confusing, its unpredictable, it leaves people annoyed

[aj2463]

They were all about a "total overhaul" and changed the one thing that should have stayed! I think they think 'vote to evict' is the way it should be and in some ways it is if you want it to be like the old days but there is no denying that 'vote to save' is the way to go! Dan would still be there for a start

[CaudleHalbard]

The problem is nominations, not the voting system

The quiet dull ones don't get put up. So it doesn't matter if it is VTE or VTS. We get stuck with the dullards.

How do we resolve this? Answers on a postcard!

[JPG2502]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

The problem is nominations, not the voting system

The quiet dull ones don't get put up. So it doesn't matter if it is VTE or VTS. We get stuck with the dullards.

How do we resolve this? Answers on a postcard!

well they managed to get the dullards up this week. on vote to evict unfortunately

[King Gizzard]

People are way more inclined to vote out people they hate than to vote people in who they like

Maybe not the mega fans/forum users, but the general audience for sure

[CaudleHalbard]

Originally Posted by JPG2502

well they managed to get the dullards up this week. on vote to evict unfortunately

Yes by not by nominations. They can't do what they did EVERY week.

No evidence that Dan would have been saved on VTS, anyway.