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The arguments and conspiracy theories on here are better than the house and the vitriolic comments are at times just as bad. BTW I admit I am guilty of this sometimes but only when provoked. Let me explain.

In the past I have let snippets of info out that I have been fed by a friend (Golf student of mine) who has a source in the studios. I don't know who she is apart from the fact she has been right most of the time. In the past I have reported stuff which was true and this year my first contact was to tell me to lump on Gina because the lads at the studios were putting bets on her to get to the finals. I was also told she has a massive secret which will come out later, that was it. I derived from this that she couldn't be an actor because if she reached the finals Ofcom would be mad if we were misled to vote for her. I thought (maybe wrong but time will tell) that she was transgender and ive said so.

Then the hate posts hit me. I might be right or wrong but in truth the vitriol towards me is uncalled for. On reflection it might be her backstory that's the big news, I don't know. All I do know is that she is a strong fav with the prods who seem to be slow walking her to the final through the edits and airtime.

I also was told that the prods know all their back stores and the biggest gamer in there is a Dexter Koh who is a total fruitcake but expected to do well. That was right but nothing else about him. I was told the other day, and I posted it well before the announcement that daley was banned from the final. I was also told that the prods knew gina and Sophie had cheated and the vote lines wouldn't open till they sorted it out and found a way to deal with it. I reported this as I was also told Sophie and Gina have a surprise in store and I thought they would be up but maybe my guess of how was a bit wrong but don't forget the prods have contingency plans for everything under the mantle of secrets and lies.

I posted very early yesterday that there would be a division of assets and one Hm was going with money from them dividing up amounts between them but the twist was that they would be staying and there was one more surprise, I was right there as well.

I also posted that there would be 2 leaving on or before Friday but that might not come off as the prods now have dex and gina where they wanted them I the final for the vote fight. I also said that the bookies were looking into bets from in and around the studios and that remains to be seen but I can assure you that the votes as they come in are pretty much common knowledge because the prods need to prepare and emma has said on occasions before voting closes, its tight etc.

I also reported BEFORE THE DECISION TO EVICT that callum had loads lumped on him well before his odds dropped form 4/1 to 6/4 and that proved to be right as well.

The only other thing I know is that the finals night will be vote to save not win so that will keep some people happy. In closing I have said loads that maybe I should not have and argued with some that maybe I should ignore but I have been spot on for the most part and the times I was wrong were due to last minute changes by the prods themselves to suit their own aims.

I do know one more thing about this week but I am not saying anything until I am sure but it will involve gina, end of transmission, now please accept this and stop winding me up as all I have done is share knowledge with this forum openly for discussion purposes not vitriolic or kudos reasons ok.
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Cool story, bro.
Its fact actually. nobody could make that up and have so many predictions right from outside the show. I don't lie and have no need to mate.
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Its fact actually. nobody could make that up and have so many predictions right from outside the show. I don't lie and have no need to mate.
It's not really a fact. I don't doubt you have a sauce who has fed you snippets, and I don't doubt you believe them, but the snippets you've been fed seem like nothing more than guesses anyone watching the show for themselves could have made.

If in week one you'd been told that the final eviction would be a cash to leave task, for example, then you'd have something to show, but you didn't. The rest of it is little more than educated guesses that most people on here would have come up with independently. Have you read the 3 trillion hm threads a day - each one with a new conspiracy theory?

I believe you, but I don't believe your sauce. If producers were that loose-tongued, then they wouldn't be in a job for very long.

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Great! Hope you made a killing on those predictions now please let us know your thoughts on whos gonna win?
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What's a sauce?

Oh a source! I see.

Seems pretty viable to me, especially the Division of assets tip off. At that point on here nobody knew a thing, not even what the twist was connected to. Plus I do feel there's something big still to emerge about Gina. A lot of little hints have been dropped, including by Emma, intrigued to see what comes out.
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It's not really a fact. I don't doubt you have a sauce who has fed you snippets, and I don't doubt you believe them, but the snippets you've been fed seem like nothing more than guesses anyone watching the show for themselves could have made.

If in week one you'd been told that the final eviction would be a cash to leave task, for example, then you'd have something to show, but you didn't. The rest of it is little more than educated guesses that most people on here would have come up with independently. Have you read the 3 trillion hm threads a day - each one with a new conspiracy theory?

I believe you, but I don't believe your sauce. If producers were that loose-tongued, then they wouldn't be in a jod for very long.
Firstly the cash to leave was only forwarded to me this week not in the first week if you read that bit again and if your theory is right, I need a meddle for so many correct guesses but thanks for your input anyway. No doubt my nemesis will say the same but I am past caring as I wont be baited anymore. The whole idea of the post was to bring up the fact that even when people try to be interesting and share info, there are posters out there willing to jump on anything. BTW there were 3 people sack some time ago for gambling on evictions and that's public knowledge so their security isn't all that tight due to secretaries needed to type up eviction questions, leaving music and everything else. Emma does not adlib and when the lines close so do the bookies and she only has 3 mins to get them settled but her cards are printed in advance, how can that be if no body knows the results till they are announced and on loads of occasions presenters have said before the vote closes, its tight folks keep on voting.
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Thanks for all the information you have put up Sam - a lot of it really makes me think a bit deeper than I would have done normally. Anything else you hear please don't hold back.
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Thanks for all the information you have put up Sam - a lot of it really makes me think a bit deeper than I would have done normally. Anything else you hear please don't hold back.
Thanks for that mate but tell me it again later today when the vitriol comes in, and it will. Jesus is only being logical but others will slate the hell out of me because that's what they live to do. I have had it for a while that's why I go nuts. I cant sit back and take crap from people that do it simply because they can. Cheers anyway.
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Firstly the cash to leave was only forwarded to me this week not in the first week if you read that bit again and if your theory is right, I need a meddle for so many correct guesses but thanks for your input anyway. No doubt my nemesis will say the same but I am past caring as I wont be baited anymore. The whole idea of the post was to bring up the fact that even when people try to be interesting and share info, there are posters out there willing to jump on anything. BTW there were 3 people sack some time ago for gambling on evictions and that's public knowledge so their security isn't all that tight due to secretaries needed to type up eviction questions, leaving music and everything else. Emma does not adlib and when the lines close so do the bookies and she only has 3 mins to get them settled but her cards are printed in advance, how can that be if no body knows the results till they are announced and on loads of occasions presenters have said before the vote closes, its tight folks keep on voting.
We've spoken about stuff before Sam, so I'm not rubbishing you. I think you're genuine.

If Emma's cards weren't printed in advance with differing outcomes allowed for, then that would be pretty shoddy planning for a live TV show.
 
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Great! Hope you made a killing on those predictions now please let us know your thoughts on whos gonna win?
Personally the way things are going and the edits going their way, I feel Dexter or Gina will shave it, but \I want Sam to win as he has been true but a little dull at times, but I don't subscribe to the theory that liar and gamers should profit as they didn't play the game, they played the public and that's not fair.
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Going back to your possible theory on Gina Sam - it did make me think. Do you think this might be why she is never seen on the shower? I have noticed that when she sings her singing voice is much deeper than expected?

Do you think there is a big secret about Sophie? I really do not want Sophie or the twins to win - any of the others will be fine since I don't have a favourite this year...
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Going back to your possible theory on Gina Sam - it did make me think. Do you think this might be why she is never seen on the shower? I have noticed that when she sings her singing voice is much deeper than expected?

Do you think there is a big secret about Sophie? I really do not want Sophie or the twins to win - any of the others will be fine since I don't have a favourite this year...
Ive not heard anything about anyone other than Dexter and Gina. These people get vetted to hell and I guess this years demographics worked better for the producers with game players in there as opposed to regular joe publics, so I am assuming on a personal level that most of them were selected because of their scammer back stories but Gina seems to be the one with the biggest holes in it according to my source. Dexters Viagra video smacks of amateurism so the prods must have known he would be interesting and to a degree Daley and hazel had their merits but the jury is still out on Sam and Sophie as they have no defined line of attack for a game plan other than their disabilities and lifestyle. I think Sam is a bit of a player as he has been on another game show so his idea of not caring about money was the wrong thing to say. In saying that I honestly believe that he wants to win, but win fairly that's why he took the 100k figure. I also think he is using his disability to get there but on reflection, why not, he hasn't had an easy ride in life so good on him.
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I doubt there are any big secrets. They're all a bunch of tossers. Lol!

BB has changed a lot with the contestants all very BB-savvy and ultra-conscious of their TV image.
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Don't forget at the end of my summation about this latest twist that there was one more twist which has not yet happened. You will see what it is then the vote lines will open and it will make loads of people happy, trust me. A clue would be to not worry about Friday, think of the final night for true fans of bb because there is a shocker coming if they get Friday right.
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You fool you spelled it wrong, the correct spelling is psychotic. LOL.
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I am really starting to think there will not be an eviction on Friday now.
Lines still not open.
And rewarding the greediest to immunity did not make sense either.

We have been told this twist is not over yet,maybe that is it.



I love reading your posts by the way Sampvt.
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You fool you spelled it wrong, the correct spelling is psychotic. LOL.
lol i was going to add that as a joke but didn't know if you'd take it as one lol

i'm psycic knew you'd say that lol
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I like your honesty....sometimes my jaw drops as I read your posts. We dont often agree but your comments are direct and you always justify your reasons.
Sometimes I think you work for BB because you are often one step ahead.
Sam you are brutally honest and for that reason you will get people respond in a similar but less articulate way.... I guess its the old saying 'if you dish it out be prepared to take it back'...just some people get personal and thats uncalled for.
Keep up the good work....I enjoy your posts.
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I like your honesty....sometimes my jaw drops as I read your posts. We dont often agree but your comments are direct and you always justify your reasons.
Sometimes I think you work for BB because you are often one step ahead.
Sam you are brutally honest and for that reason you will get people respond in a similar but less articulate way.... I guess its the old saying 'if you dish it out be prepared to take it back'...just some people get personal and thats uncalled for.
Keep up the good work....I enjoy your posts.
Ok here is the deal.....My nemesis has been silent today so I can only assume he has accepted my explanation and cant or wont hound me because he would need to apologise.....here is a reply I wrote to Vicky this morning which covers everything from last night, hopefully you are now up to speed as I am with the exception of one more thing I am keeping to myself as I want to have a bet on it and I know BB follows these forums.....here it is, it was written an hour ago roughly...

I wont insult your intelligence but this is what I was told....honestly......BB are expecting the twins to go low as one of them wants out and they both think they cant win so 20k would have been acceptable and they were gone. That would leave the prods to tell Gina and Sophie they were up with the rest of the house due to cheating which they had to address and the vote to save was now in place with the least popular going on Friday. That's why I said 2 to go before Friday and the division of assets label.

No guesses or plants, that's what they wanted but it backfired when Dexter went low and they couldn't give him that much. What they did however guess right was that he would bring the cheater Sophie into the mix and they have skirted over ginas poo pah because it wasn't that blatant as Sophies.

There you have it truth and lock stock and barrel. In fact the VTS might come in tonight for the final with one going Friday as they need a lamb for the live eviction, that has to take place no matter what unless they come up with another twist before tonight.
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The arguments and conspiracy theories on here are better than the house and the vitriolic comments are at times just as bad. BTW I admit I am guilty of this sometimes but only when provoked. Let me explain.

In the past I have let snippets of info out that I have been fed by a friend (Golf student of mine) who has a source in the studios. I don't know who she is apart from the fact she has been right most of the time. In the past I have reported stuff which was true and this year my first contact was to tell me to lump on Gina because the lads at the studios were putting bets on her to get to the finals. I was also told she has a massive secret which will come out later, that was it. I derived from this that she couldn't be an actor because if she reached the finals Ofcom would be mad if we were misled to vote for her. I thought (maybe wrong but time will tell) that she was transgender and ive said so.

Then the hate posts hit me. I might be right or wrong but in truth the vitriol towards me is uncalled for. On reflection it might be her backstory that's the big news, I don't know. All I do know is that she is a strong fav with the prods who seem to be slow walking her to the final through the edits and airtime.

I also was told that the prods know all their back stores and the biggest gamer in there is a Dexter Koh who is a total fruitcake but expected to do well. That was right but nothing else about him. I was told the other day, and I posted it well before the announcement that daley was banned from the final. I was also told that the prods knew gina and Sophie had cheated and the vote lines wouldn't open till they sorted it out and found a way to deal with it. I reported this as I was also told Sophie and Gina have a surprise in store and I thought they would be up but maybe my guess of how was a bit wrong but don't forget the prods have contingency plans for everything under the mantle of secrets and lies.

I posted very early yesterday that there would be a division of assets and one Hm was going with money from them dividing up amounts between them but the twist was that they would be staying and there was one more surprise, I was right there as well.

I also posted that there would be 2 leaving on or before Friday but that might not come off as the prods now have dex and gina where they wanted them I the final for the vote fight. I also said that the bookies were looking into bets from in and around the studios and that remains to be seen but I can assure you that the votes as they come in are pretty much common knowledge because the prods need to prepare and emma has said on occasions before voting closes, its tight etc.

I also reported BEFORE THE DECISION TO EVICT that callum had loads lumped on him well before his odds dropped form 4/1 to 6/4 and that proved to be right as well.

The only other thing I know is that the finals night will be vote to save not win so that will keep some people happy. In closing I have said loads that maybe I should not have and argued with some that maybe I should ignore but I have been spot on for the most part and the times I was wrong were due to last minute changes by the prods themselves to suit their own aims.

I do know one more thing about this week but I am not saying anything until I am sure but it will involve gina, end of transmission, now please accept this and stop winding me up as all I have done is share knowledge with this forum openly for discussion purposes not vitriolic or kudos reasons ok.
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