[Jake.]

Why is it right for men to be allowed to sleep with 5 women and be a 'lad', but a women does the same and she's a slag? Guareented Dappy has done the same at some point in his life despite having kids? Watching BOTS and this is a brilliant argument mind. But I actually agree with Luisa, and Dappy did backtrack a hell of a lot. Oh and enough of the 'omg she mentioned his mum', they both mentioned eachothers relatives so they are both as bad where that is concerned.

[Jemal]

I agree with jasmine not luisa. But i also agree with dappy. A women sleeping with five men in a night is a slut, what else is she. Where im from thats disgustimg.. Luisa couldnt handle it because she knows shes done stuff like that. If a man sleeps with five men it makes him a pig. Its repulsive either way.
And the 'omg she mentioned my mum' means alot to some people (including me)
Maybe not you or others who really dont care what people say about their mums. She said "your mother should be ashamed of you" then gets pissed when he brings up true facts related to her daughter.
And the IQ comment she made and also when she calls the public peasants tops off how much of an idiot and stuck up bitch she is

Rant over.

[Ammi]

..I agree with Jasmine when she said that Dappy's comment wasn't fact but just his opinion and that his remark was sexist but with the argument, they were as bad as each other ...

[Jake.]

Oh and the IQ comment made him look even more thick, what does 'I've got a B in music' actually have to do with anything?

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Jemal

I agree with jasmine not luisa. But i also agree with dappy. A women sleeping with five men in a night is a slut, what else is she. Where im from thats disgustimg.. Luisa couldnt handle it because she knows shes done stuff like that. If a man sleeps with five men it makes him a pig. Its repulsive either way.
And the 'omg she mentioned my mum' means alot to some people (including me)
Maybe not you or others who really dont care what people say about their mums. She said "your mother should be ashamed of you" then gets pissed when he brings up true facts related to her daughter.
And the IQ comment she made and also when she calls the public peasants tops off how much of an idiot and stuck up bitch she is

Rant over.

The problem is that Dappy didn't agree that it made men pigs at first (and later backtracked), his opinion was completely sexist. And I do care about what people say about my mother thank you very much, read the rest of my post (saying that it makes them as bad as eachother for bringing up their loved ones, nobody came off good in that).

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Jake.

Oh and the IQ comment made him look even more thick, what does 'I've got a B in music' actually have to do with anything?

..yeah but I think that the whole IQ/academic qualifications thing started because Luisa was quite derogatory about his intelligence and then it all started to get a bit silly, which is what so often happens when people just go with their emotions/frustrations/anger etc instead of taking a step back from a situation and thinking about it...not that, that doesn't make entertaining viewing though...

[Jemal]

Originally Posted by Jake.

Oh and the IQ comment made him look even more thick, what does 'I've got a B in music' actually have to do with anything?

Luisa brought up
"I cant talk to people with such low intelligence and IQ"

lol did you watch the arguement? Or are you just clutching at straws.

And sorry for the mum comment. Didnt mean it

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..yeah but I think that the whole IQ/academic qualifications thing started because Luisa was quite derogatory about his intelligence and then it all started to get a bit silly, which is what so often happens when people just go with their emotions/frustrations/anger etc instead of taking a step back from a situation and thinking about it...not that, that doesn't make entertaining viewing though...

Yeah I agree, neither came off looking good and being angry, they just blurterd random drivel, but that's what happens. Whilst I don't agree with her mother comment, I did find him following her around remarking about her daugther constantly a bit too extreme. It was like that she was finished but he needed to go back for a bit more each time.

[Jemal]

She defo hit the core with the mother comment tho

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Jemal

Luisa brought up
"I cant talk to people with such low intellience and IQ"

lol did you watch the arguement? Or are you just clutching at straws.

And sorry for the mum comment. Didnt mean it

Yes, I did watch the argument, I'm not one to form an opinon without seeing it first-hand, and I've said that Luisa brining up the comment was stupid, doesn't make his comment any less thick, it's like school kids going 'yeah well I done better than you in this' and so on. And nope, not clutching at any straws at all, thanks.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Jemal

She defo hit the core with the mother comment tho

So he did the same with the daughter comment then? In all honesty, why should he care how many men she's slept with? Has he not been a wild child?

[Jemal]

Originally Posted by Jake.

So he did the same with the daughter comment then? In all honesty, why should he care how many men she's slept with? Has he not been a wild child?

no i ment that comment set dappy off.

he would never of brought her daughter up, thats for sure.

And it matter how many men shes slept with because of the subject their talking about. Luisa is acting like a saint and a nun when the whole of britain knows the truth. She was bare trying to act like shes never had sex.
It was an arguement filled with hypocrisy thats for sure.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Jemal

She defo hit the core with the mother comment tho

..yeah she did and it was completely out of order but he countered it by saying how would her daughter feel, which kind of 'numbed' and issues he rightly had there, so they were both equally in the wrong...

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Jemal

no i ment that comment set dappy off.

he would never of brought her daughter up, thats for sure.

And it matter how many men shes slept with necause of the subject their talking about. Luisa is acting like a saint and a nun when the whole of britain knows the truth. She was bare trying to act like shes never had sex.
It was an arguement filled with hypocrisy thats for sure.

How does she act like a nun lol, she's been open about her sex life previously and Dappy was fine with it if it meant that he could view her and Jasmine snogging in the bath, funny how he didn't think about how 'heartbroken' her daughter would be then? The argument was fine until Dappy used her sex life as an insult and made it personal. But yes, I agree with your last line.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..yeah she did and it was completely out of order but he countered it by saying how would her daughter feel, which kind of 'numbed' and issues he rightly had there, so they were both equally in the wrong...

Exactly!

[Jemal]

Originally Posted by Jake.

How does she act like a nun lol, she's been open about her sex life previously and Dappy was fine with it if it meant that he could view her and Jasmine snogging in the bath, funny how he didn't think about how 'heartbroken' her daughter would be then? The argument was fine until Dappy used her sex life as an insult and made it personal. But yes, I agree with your last line.

Lord..
I ment she was acting like one in the heat of the arguement for **** sake.
How is jasmine and luisa playing a dare game, kissing in the bathroom compare to a girl sleeping with five men in a night?
Im sorry but you just made a point that was quite invalid.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Jemal

no i ment that comment set dappy off.

he would never of brought her daughter up, thats for sure.

And it matter how many men shes slept with because of the subject their talking about. Luisa is acting like a saint and a nun when the whole of britain knows the truth. She was bare trying to act like shes never had sex.
It was an arguement filled with hypocrisy thats for sure.

..yeah but the sexist comment Dappy made originally was what set her off also and from what I could see, sparked the entire argument, and they both said things they had no right to say...

..I'm not particularly a Luisa fan btw, I quite like Dappy but just because we like people or they're our favourites etc, doesn't mean to say they're not in the wrong in some things...

[Samm]

I agree with Luisa all the way and Jasmine too.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Jemal

Lord..
I ment she was acting like one in the heat of the arguement for **** sake.
How is jasmine and luisa playing a dare game, kissing in the bathroom compare to a girl sleeping with five men in a night?
Im sorry but you just made a point that was quite invalid.

Why are you getting so vented, have you seen me swear? Chill dude. I wasn't comparing the two at all, I said that despite Dappy constantly going 'how would your daughter feel about this', 'how would your daugther feel about that', he didn't consider it when he was asking her to snog another woman for his own entertainment. That was my only point, and I wouldn't disregard it as an invalid one.

[Jemal]

Ive admitted numerous times that what dappy said originally was sexists.
So me getting accused of favouritism cause dappy is my fav is annoying me now abit.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..yeah but the sexist comment Dappy made originally was what set her off also and from what I could see, sparked the entire argument, and they both said things they had no right to say...

..I'm not particularly a Luisa fan btw, I quite like Dappy but just because we like people or they're our favourites etc, doesn't mean to say they're not in the wrong in some things...

This is my main gripe.

[AnnieK]

They both are idiots...if you have to stoop to personal insults to get your point across then you lose the argument IMO. Nothing annoys people more than keeping your calm and not raising your voice....it drives people crazy especially if they are irate

[Northern Monkey]

It is worse for a woman,Women get pregnant and if they don't know who the dad is,They have fatherless kids with emotional problems and a hard time as a single mother.Like i said in another thread - Equalty should not overide common sense.

[Jemal]

Originally Posted by Jake.

Why are you getting so vented, have you seen me swear? Chill dude. I wasn't comparing the two at all, I said that despite Dappy constantly going 'how would your daughter feel about this', 'how would your daugther feel about that', he didn't consider it when he was asking her to snog another woman for his own entertainment. That was my only point, and I wouldn't disregard it as an invalid one.

But luisa isnt playing a truth or dare game when sleeping with loads of men is she?
She was only playing a game in the bathroom which is why dappy wouldnt and neednt off brought up anything about her daughter.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Jemal

Ive admitted numerous times that what dappy said originally was sexists.
So me getting accused of favouritism cause dappy is my fav is annoying me now abit.

..sorry, that wasn't aimed at you Jemal, but in general when their are arguments in BB, a lot of people will see it from their 'favourites' perspective or someone they like and especially if they don't like the other person..generally in most things, there is no 'right or wrong' but only points of view, I agree with jasmine about that...

..I don't like 'sides' anyway because normally there are faults with both people...such is the way in emotive situations...