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Old 22-06-2014, 12:07 AM #1
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Question Is she really that bad?

I didn't really like Toya at the beginning. I found her to be very forced and she seemed to start agreements for no reasons, but I never found her to be "vile","spiteful" or mean because to me she she started pointless arguments more to prove a point rather than to be malicious or to bully someone. Her main problem really is that she doesn't accept other peoples opinions, but does that make her a bad person? She's definitely not as bad as Pauline and Helen.

Lately she has really grown on me because she seems to be thinking for herself rather that following the popular group. I don't think she's a bad person I just think she needs to look at things from an outside perspective and think before jumping the gun. I think people should give a more of a chance.

Yeah so do you think Toya really as bad as she is made out to be?
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Deana, Gina, Charley etc all acted the same way she's acted and yet they were all loved by forum members... I don't understand why she's being hated on, if anything she's more of an outsider than Charley/Gina were after this big fight that's just happened.

And all this "she won't let anyone speak" stuff is bull. Everytime she makes her point she gets interrupted, which is why she gets louder. That's just a natural thing to do.
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No, I actually think she's nice girl but it's so easy to label her otherwise because she isn't afraid to voice her opinion.
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Toya is a great housemate regardless and people need to see this
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Deana, Gina, Charley etc all acted the same way she's acted and yet they were all loved by forum members... I don't understand why she's being hated on, if anything she's more of an outsider than Charley/Gina were after this big fight that's just happened.

And all this "she won't let anyone speak" stuff is bull. Everytime she makes her point she gets interrupted, which is why she gets louder. That's just a natural thing to do.
"everybody just better calm the f..k down"

she wouldnt tell me what to do either, bossy cow, she may be the power hm and BB will give her decisions to make, but one of them aint how Ash (or anyone else in there) behaves

She's another Pauline, ugly gob****e!

Glad to see Winston putting the bitch in her place too!!
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I like Toya as a housemate. I think the mistake she made was befriending Poline, now it seems like the dislike for her has transferred onto Toya.

I hope Toya avoids facing eviction this week as it seems like she really could be in danger.
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Deana, Gina, Charley etc all acted the same way she's acted and yet they were all loved by forum members... I don't understand why she's being hated on, if anything she's more of an outsider than Charley/Gina were after this big fight that's just happened.

And all this "she won't let anyone speak" stuff is bull. Everytime she makes her point she gets interrupted, which is why she gets louder. That's just a natural thing to do.
How can you possibly put Deana and Gina in the same category as that shameful hunt Charley bitchface Uchea and the gobby bint that is Toya??
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I'm really hoping that Toya stays an extra week I really think she could turn things around for herself. Hopefully it's Matt who goes up because I highly doubt he would go.
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"everybody just better calm the f..k down"

she wouldnt tell me what to do either, bossy cow, she may be the power hm and BB will give her decisions to make, but one of them aint how Ash (or anyone else in there) behaves

She's another Pauline, ugly gob****e!

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I think Toyah could have dealt with that situation a lot better , she needed to stop shouting people dont listen when you scream at them.
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I'm really hoping that Toya stays an extra week I really think she could turn things around for herself. Hopefully it's Matt who goes up because I highly doubt he would go.
If she stays she could become the underdog, kinda like what happened with Deana - was hated by the whole house but became such of an outsider that the public warmed to her.
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I think Toyah could have dealt with that situation a lot better , she needed to stop shouting people dont listen when you scream at them.
I do agree with you I think she should listen to other people more instead of just going off but I don't think that makes her a bad person.
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After the most recent vids I think she is unhinged.
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Deana, Gina, Charley etc all acted the same way she's acted and yet they were all loved by forum members... I don't understand why she's being hated on, if anything she's more of an outsider than Charley/Gina were after this big fight that's just happened.

And all this "she won't let anyone speak" stuff is bull. Everytime she makes her point she gets interrupted, which is why she gets louder. That's just a natural thing to do.
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Charley and Gina were loved by forum members?

Uhhh, was that on a different forum?

Not to mention, Toya/Gina/Charley/Deana weren't at all the same as one another. Charley and Gina maybe but even then there were stark differences.

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I do agree with you I think she should listen to other people more instead of just going off but I don't think that makes her a bad person.
No she isn't a bad person , just a person in a bad situation.
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Uhhh, was that on a different forum?

Not to mention, Toya/Gina/Charley/Deana weren't at all the same as one another. Charley and Gina maybe but even then there were stark differences.
Gina was loved last year.
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imo Toya is better than Gina even tbh I loved Gina
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She is delude and what she accuses others of is what she does .
However this week I will be voting Steven out ,he brings nothing to the show .
I also reserve the right to change my mind .
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Charley and Gina were lovable.

Toya is anything but.
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Yes. But there is nobody in the right tonight imo. All blown out of proportion in a very annoying manner.
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Uhhh, was that on a different forum?

Not to mention, Toya/Gina/Charley/Deana weren't at all the same as one another. Charley and Gina maybe but even then there were stark differences.
Were you even here during last years BB, I don't remember

Gina was loved last year, and Dexter was too. And Charley has her own Social Group Appreciation Society on here... when will Winston?
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Look at her trying to exert her authority. she's a joke!
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Were you even here during last years BB, I don't remember

Gina was loved last year, and Dexter was too. And Charley has her own Social Group Appreciation Society on here... when will Winston?
Yes, I was here. Don't care if you remember me.

Gina and Dexter got a lot of hate, particularly in the first half.

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..no I really don't think she is that bad and nothing like on the level of Pauline..and unlike Pauline who I think stifled personalities, Toya seems to be 'bringing them out'...and so is someone I think should stay for a while..I'm not a fan but I do think she adds to the house and also discussions etc...I think her biggest flaw is that she just doesn't allow for other people's opinions or anyone else to talk and just talks at them..(well sometimes shouts at them..)..but doesn't also give them a voice or when they do speak she interrupts again and never seems to listen...it's like she has a script in front of her and she's going to get to the end of it no matter what...and how dare they talk while I'm talking.....


..but yeah, love her or hate her, I do think she's a huge part of the show and hopefully won't be going anywhere for a while...
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