[Ammi]

..there has been...since giving her immunity from being nominated, she's fairly much had all the 'power' in the house but not in a good way...she's just 'ruled' by isolating people who go against her or won't fall in with being one of her minions....it's annoying that so many people feel that Ashleigh has been the bigger bitch and two faced etc because Helen is also extremely two faced and has said things behind people's backs just as much if not more..there are lots of things she hasn't said to people's faces but added to that she's someone who also takes pleasure in insulting, abusing and disrespecting people for 'attention' as she only ever does that with an audience..if she was an 'honest and up front' person, then she would take them to one side...I also think she does it to isolate people because her cronies are aware that if they go against her, it'll probably not be long before they're targeted as well and who would want to be on the receiving end of her screeching abuse...I also don't believe that Ashleigh has isolated herself so much as Helen has probably isolated her and Danielle has remained loyal to her...Ashleigh no more 'huddles and bitches' than Helen, it's just that Helen has got a bigger group of people to do it with..anyway, kudos to Danielle for remaining loyal and putting herself in the firing line as well...she was great with Marlon in the button fallout as well and whatever else she may be, I think she's actually an ok person/good heart etc....

...anyway, what I'm personally seeing is that some of Helen's clique aren't too bad, it's just that it's hard to 'see them' because she stifles them and it's harder to see them as individuals..Winston's ok..Marlon has his flaws but actually impressed me with his apology..(which shouldn't have been necessary..)..because he also knew that the group could have 'turned on him' and it all gone horribly wrong but as it was, they actually listened..but until BB revoke Helen's immunity and she leaves, we'll never fully see anyone else as we should...and it isn't because Helen's 'carried the show'..(sorry Jack..)...it's because she's just been given a very long task by BB which started with her immunity, which she's used as nothing but spite...

..I don't really care who wins as such out of a few of them but I would hate to see Helen or Ash win because I think Ash is someone who actually doesn't care whether she's awful or who that awfulness effects others, so long as he doesn't have to get off his bony backside and actually have to make an effort at anything and is one of the most shallow BB housemates of all time...Mark was a bit disappointing in his treatment of Marlon after 'the button' after defending the treatment of Ashleigh but he still seems ok..I still like Chris and Winston is starting to grow on me in a Tim nice but dim way....


..anyway, I've actually forgotten the purpose of this thread.....but just general thoughts on how Helen's 'power' is effecting the house in a stifling way and do you think it has to be revoked pretty soon and she has to go ..?...and I don't think we would lose the 'entertainment' factor either because we would start to see individuals more, rather than just see a clique..(sorry Jack, some day you may forgive me....)...