[Crimson Dynamo]

Young told to get a job or lose benefits: Tory 'earn or learn' plan to be at the heart of Cameron's first Queen's Speech

• Cameron says Jobs Bill to form centrepiece of Queen's Speech on May 27
• 18-21-year-olds banned from Jobseekers Allowance or Housing Benefit
• School leavers will have to get a job, apprenticeship or start training
• Osborne says it will help to curb firms' reliance on migrant workers

School leavers will be forced to take a job or sign up for training under government plans to prepare young people for the world of work.

A Jobs Bill will be ‘at the heart’ of David Cameron’s first Tory Queen’s Speech, creating 3million apprenticeships and banning under-21s from claiming housing benefit or signing on to the dole.

Ministers include Chancellor George Osborne believe that giving young people the skills demanded by employers will also help to curb the number of migrants coming to Britain to take jobs.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz3a2dV3RMk







Another common sense policy from Dave that will chime with the UK wealth creators

[Glenn.]

Sounds good to me

[Cherie]

No argument with that, any job at that age will teach valuable life skills

[Denver]

What a ****ing twat maybe he should stop foreigners claiming benefits before the British

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by adamski94

What a ****ing twat maybe he should stop foreigners claiming benefits before the British

Won't some of these claimants be "foreigners"? Isn't it mainly young men coming to these fair shores to claim bennies allegedly

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Won't some of these claimants be "foreigners"? Isn't it mainly young men coming to these fair shores to claim bennies allegedly

the truth is going to beat yo ass so hard.

[smudgie]

Hopefully more young adults will learn to read and write then.
Win win all round by the look of it.

[Jamesy]

Agree with the housing benefit (as long these young people have parents/guardians with homes to live in).

Although scrapping JSA in favour of a "Youth Allowance" doesn't look like it will make any difference. It will pretty much be the same as JSA judging by that article, if you want to get your benefits you do community work, training or some other form of free work with nothing in return apart from Ł50 or less a week. These things already do not work for people on JSA (under the bullying do-this-or-no-benefit scheme they do in every Job Centre), so shifting the young to an identical system under a difference name seems a waste of money to me.

I would rather see investment made in what already exists and make it better. The money that will be wasted on a new "Youth Allowance" benefit could be used to restructure the JSA and make it actually useful to the unemployed. Instead of the current system where you get literally zero help and get spoken to like you're a convicted criminal.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Won't some of these claimants be "foreigners"? Isn't it mainly young men coming to these fair shores to claim bennies allegedly

I've been to my local job centre where 85% are not British who signed on

[arista]

Yes Get Educated
Or Work


Climb the Ladder

[Tom4784]

Nice idea in theory but it won't work in practice. Apprenticeships and Entry level jobs are very competitive and 'training' and 'placements' seems like it'll just be free labour for companies with no hope of a job by the end of it.

Originally Posted by adamski94

I've been to my local job centre where 85% are not British who signed on

Pray do tell, how do you know they aren't British? Have you spoken to them? do you know their life stories? Also 85% is a specific number, how did you come up with that number exactly?

[Glenn.]

The thing that bothers me with youngsters leaving school these days is they have little or no concept at all about a working life. There are very few that manage to get themselves jobs towards the latter part of education, be it a part time job but a job nonetheless. The rest just file out and do next to nothing.

They should be teaching kids about the real world in school, not wasting precious hours of their school life learning Shakespeare and ridiculous algebra problems. They don't need that in their heads, they need a firm grasp of the real world.

I'm all for this, if it actually comes into fruition. But I think things could be better before these youngsters leave the safety of school.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Nice idea in theory but it won't work in practice. Apprenticeships and Entry level jobs are very competitive and 'training' and 'placements' seems like it'll just be free labour for companies with no hope of a job by the end of it.



Pray do tell, how do you know they aren't British? Have you spoken to them? do you know their life stories? Also 85% is a specific number, how did you come up with that number exactly?

You can tell by there accents. Are staff on this site allowed to be rude to other members and put down every opinion they have? That is all you done to me today its not right

[Glenn.]

Unless you can actually prove that they are in fact foreigners that's a pretty sweeping generalisation. An ignorant one.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Quasar

Unless you can actually prove that they are in fact foreigners that's a pretty sweeping generalisation. An ignorant one.

I live in a town full of foreigners I think I know thank you very much

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by adamski94

You can tell by there accents. Are staff on this site allowed to be rude to other members and put down every opinion they have? That is all you done to me today its not right

I'm asking you questions, it is not a crime.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by adamski94

I live in a town full of foreigners I think I know thank you very much

I could say that about where I live because I see a few in passing on the street. Doesn't make it fact.

[empire]

I believe banning housing benefits is right, but I would increase the dole money to minimum wage level, if they can find work for voluntary place, for two days a week, work schemes are useless and rip you off, you will never find work in those places, work schemes are the biggest waste of money, I think them places make you lazy and come out with less confidence, tory's only got one part of it right but the rest wrong, younger british workers are being turned away from fair paid jobs to cheap eastern Europe workers, who milk the system, and are not forced with the same policy,

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by adamski94

I've been to my local job centre where 85% are not British who signed on

You have to start somewhere, start with those who mainly live at home and have not paid into the system.

Originally Posted by Quasar

The thing that bothers me with youngsters leaving school these days is they have little or no concept at all about a working life. There are very few that manage to get themselves jobs towards the latter part of education, be it a part time job but a job nonetheless. The rest just file out and do next to nothing.

They should be teaching kids about the real world in school, not wasting precious hours of their school life learning Shakespeare and ridiculous algebra problems. They don't need that in their heads, they need a firm grasp of the real world.

I'm all for this, if it actually comes into fruition. But I think things could be better before these youngsters leave the safety of school.

I'm agreeing with Glenn.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Quasar

I could say that about where I live because I see a few in passing on the street. Doesn't make it fact.

Obviously you don't live here so you have no clue about my town.

Only 2 types of foreigners should be allowed to live in the UK

1) Those taking skilled jobs

2) Those whose lives are at risk in there own country

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by adamski94

Obviously you don't live here so you have no clue about my town.

Only 2 types of foreigners should be allowed to live in the UK

1) Those taking skilled jobs

2) Those whose lives are at risk in there own country

Why?

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by adamski94

Obviously you don't live here so you have no clue about my town.

Only 2 types of foreigners should be allowed to live in the UK

1) Those taking skilled jobs

2) Those whose lives are at risk in there own country

Maybe you should move then if they bother you so much?

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Cherie

You have to start somewhere, start with those who mainly live at home and have not paid into the system.

I live in a town where most jobs are seasonal so for me I'm only working 6/7 months a year every job I had I've paid into the system but I know how hard it is to be young and trying to get a job

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Why?

Because it takes jobs/benefits from British people who need them

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Quasar

Maybe you should move then if they bother you so much?

Why should i have to move this is my country I should have rights