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Old 09-07-2015, 09:24 AM #1
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Default Britain's military drone base at RAF Waddington that Kills Isis in Iraq

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25425711


On a Interview on BBC Radio 5 now

These would be the Killer Drones
that would operate in Syria
once the UK Parliament agree's on it


Ethical ?

No its the USA way of getting Terrorists to
attack you at home


You could say Isis need
their own Drone Base out there
to fight fair


The BBC should not give the location of this base
thats Stupid


Hey Fella when you Murder General Public , In Error ,out there with your Killer Drone,
do you feel sick?

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biased post by any chance?

Any technology that allows us to attack those evil bastards while still keeping our forces safe is fine by me
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Any technology that allows us to attack those evil bastards while still keeping our forces safe is fine by me

But the Problem is not every Drone (Reaper) attacks
kills Isis
they Murder General Public near it, In Error

Thats my Dispute

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Any technology that allows us to attack those evil bastards while still keeping our forces safe is fine by me
Biased in favour of whom... Isis?
Naturally people will be thinking of poor civilians trapped in areas at the centre of any conflict.
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You could say Isis need
their own Drone Base out there
to fight fair...

If it's a fair fight you want, maybe we should start cutting off people's heads and posting the video, raping, killing children and anyone else who doesn't agree with us, sending suicide bombers into markets and gunmen into schools and, of course, smashing people's history with a shed load of Semtex. The truth is that the British will be blamed if we don't bomb Syria, we will be blamed if they do. Syrians are already living the worse, most frightening kind of life, and if we can help by targeting IS, then that's got to be a good thing. And really, whatever we do to help rid this planet of the infestation that is IS, the happier I will be because there is no negotiating with them.
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If it's a fair fight you want, maybe we should start cutting off people's heads and posting the video, raping, killing children and anyone else who doesn't agree with us, sending suicide bombers into markets and gunmen into schools and, of course, smashing people's history with a shed load of Semtex. The truth is that the British will be blamed if we don't bomb Syria, we will be blamed if they do. Syrians are already living the worse, most frightening kind of life, and if we can help by targeting IS, then that's got to be a good thing. And really, whatever we do to help rid this planet of the infestation that is IS, the happier I will be because there is no negotiating with them.


No thats not the Wests Style at all.
They Bomb with Drones
that Murder General Public
next to Every Massive Bomb dropped from Reapers
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The only people they fire a drone at are confirmed terrorists. The problem is, drones are only as accurate as the intelligence that feeds it. Thousands of innocents have so far been killed in what was supposed to be 'direct' drone strikes. If we kill 10 out of the 24 terrorists we were targeting, along with 500 innocents; that, in my eyes isn't a successful mission.
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The only people they fire a drone at are confirmed terrorists. The problem is, drones are only as accurate as the intelligence that feeds it. Thousands of innocents have so far been killed in what was supposed to be 'direct' drone strikes. If we kill 10 out of the 24 terrorists we were targeting, along with 500 innocents; that, in my eyes isn't a successful mission.
And people wonder why refugees are flocking west in their 1000s.
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The only people they fire a drone at are confirmed terrorists. The problem is, drones are only as accurate as the intelligence that feeds it. Thousands of innocents have so far been killed in what was supposed to be 'direct' drone strikes. If we kill 10 out of the 24 terrorists we were targeting, along with 500 innocents; that, in my eyes isn't a successful mission.
Do you have any evidence that the Brits have done this, as this thread is about the RAF? Or did you just pluck those figures out of the air?

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Do you have any evidence that the Brits have done this, as this thread is about the RAF? Or did you just pluck those figures out of the air?
Well the Brits obviously haven't as it's the US that have been carrying out lots of drone missions... but the Brits want to start... which is sort of what this thread is about. Someone isn't paying attention
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Well the Brits obviously haven't as it's the US that have been carrying out lots of drone missions... but the Brits want to start... which is sort of what this thread is about. Someone isn't paying attention
Demolition Red used the term "we". Maybe I'm not the one you should be ticking off.
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This is more than likely the main reason we've killed over 2 million innocent civilians, it's not a safe method in the slightest.
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This is more than likely the main reason we've killed over 2 million innocent civilians, it's not a safe method in the slightest.
Who is "we", and where did you get that amazing figure?
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Do you have any evidence that the Brits have done this, as this thread is about the RAF? Or did you just pluck those figures out of the air?
Col", the pilot, has two control sticks in front of him to operate the plane that is flying thousands of miles from where he is sitting.
I ask him if he is ever had to fire the Reaper's Hellfire missiles. He says yes, but adds: "It's not something I like to talk about very often."

From the article in the OP.
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So the figures are plucked out of the air.
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I don't know, Josh may shed some light on that if he responds, although worldwide over recent years over several missions I wouldn't say it was that off if 'we' means US and UK.
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and a missile from a plane is of course 100% accurate and never results in any collateral damage

We didn't ask for there to be mental murderers beheading innocent civilians. From a UK perspective, drone operations are by far our best option to combat the ISIS threat
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Demolition Red used the term "we". Maybe I'm not the one you should be ticking off.
I don't enjoy ticking anyone else off though...
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I don't know, Josh may shed some light on that if he responds, although worldwide over recent years over several missions I wouldn't say it was that off if 'we' means US and UK.
I look forward to the resident military strategists throwing their version of some light on it.
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I'm all for Reaper strikes if it keeps our soldiers from having to go in and put their life on the line.This seems like the safest way we have to fight back.Pretty sure Hellfires are the missile that are also fired from Apache helicopters as tank busters and are accurate.ISIS don't fight fair so if we can kill them without putting our soldiers and pilots lives at risk then all the better.
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I'm all for Reaper strikes if it keeps our soldiers from having to go in and put their life on the line.This seems like the safest way we have to fight back.Pretty sure Hellfires are the missile that are also fired from Apache helicopters as tank busters and are accurate.ISIS don't fight fair so if we can kill them without putting our soldiers and pilots lives at risk then all the better.

Yes Great Points

But what about all the Civilians
murdered in Error
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