[Brillopad]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...eat-government

Talk about getting too big for his boots.

May won even with a minority. But Corbyn thinks he is above that and trying to mess with things. Jumped up little man.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...eat-government

Talk about getting too big for his boots.

May won even with a minority. But Corbyn thinks he is above that and trying to mess with things. Jumped up little man.

has he not got it yet? he LOST,even against a poor manifesto from the Tories, haven't they lost the last 3 elections?

[Withano]

I dunno, i think theres some pretty complex rules when nobody gets a majority. Next to nobody that voted tory wanted a dup coalition. Everyone is looking and hoping for an alternative. We cant have 5 years of antiwomen rights for the sake of settling this sooner

[Tom4784]

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[Kizzy]

May does not have a majority she can't get one without getting in bed with the DUP.
He has the right to table an alternative.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

has he not got it yet? he LOST,even against a poor manifesto from the Tories, haven't they lost the last 3 elections?

He thinks he has it in the bag with all his young fans trailing behind him like the pied piper. Can you imagine what he would be like with any real power. This 'mild mannered' little man has suddenly got very cocky! Is this the real Corbyn I wonder.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

has he not got it yet? he LOST,even against a poor manifesto from the Tories, haven't they lost the last 3 elections?

They made bigger gains than could ever have been realistically expected, and the Conservatives - far from gaining the landslide majority they hoped for - actually lost their slim majority and ended up in a far worse position than they would have been had they simply not called an election at all.

It's not a "win", no, but if you think that's a "loss" then frankly you have a very poor understanding of current UK politics.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Withano

I dunno, i think theres some pretty complex rules when nobody gets a majority. Next to nobody that voted tory wanted a dup coalition. Everyone is looking and hoping for an alternative. We cant have 5 years of antiwomen rights for the sake of settling this sooner

Even drama queen dramatics won't make that true. No anti women rights unless of course Islam ever have any real say in British politics. Desperate or what.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Even drama queen dramatics won't make that true. No anti women rights unless of course Islam ever have any real say in British politics. Desperate or what.

Yeah, DUP certainly don't have anti-women's rights views at all.

The delusion is real.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Yeah, DUP certainly don't have anti-women's rights views at all.

The delusion is real.

They may - but they won't have aenough power to get it passed. Dramatics and scaremongering.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Even drama queen dramatics won't make that true. No anti women rights unless of course Islam ever have any real say in British politics. Desperate or what.

The torys need dup. The dup do not need the torys. The dup will not agree to a coalition unless all of their policies are considered. Thats like obvious. You cant hide from the truth forever, Brillo!
If this coalition ever exists, both parties will help each others policies through parliament. Thats the entire point to it. May is historically anti-female herself anyway isnt she.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

They may - but they won't have aenough power to get it passed. Dramatics and scaremongering.

They are the only thing giving the Tories a majority and unlike the Lib Dems in the previous coalition, they aren't likely to play ball if the Tories propose something that goes against their beliefs.

The Tories will likely have to make concessions to the DUP to keep them onside.

As for the 'dramatics and scaremongering' remark, how can you tell? It seems like you have your head buried quite deeply in the sand.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Withano

The torys need dup. The dup do not need the torys. The dup will not agree to a coalition unless all of their policies are considered. Thats like obvious. You cant hide from the truth forever, Brillo!

The DUP do need the tories if they want some negotiations over their borders and Brexit. Whose hiding.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Withano

The torys need dup. The dup do not need the torys. The dup will not agree to a coalition unless all of their policies are considered. Thats like obvious. You cant hide from the truth forever, Brillo!

She's certainly going to try though!

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

The DUP do need the tories if they want some negotiations over their borders and Brexit. Whose hiding.

The ball is in dups court. They can make a coalition with the tories under their terms, or they can refuse and force torys to make another snap election, one that they would likely lose.

[Oliver_W]

There's not enough of the minor parties willing to coalesce with Labour for them to form a government. Let Corbyn show himself up, when the Tories get a new leader they can meet at PMQs

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

They are the only thing giving the Tories a majority and unlike the Lib Dems in the previous coalition, they aren't likely to play ball if the Tories propose something that goes against their beliefs.

The Tories will likely have to make concessions to the DUP to keep them onside.

As for the 'dramatics and scaremongering' remark, how can you tell? It seems like you have your head buried quite deeply in the sand.

Yes they may have to make some concessions but it won't be women's rights, not in England. Besides the DUP want some say in their borders and Brexit so they can't be too pushy.

[Withano]

Werent you fighting for the abortion limit to be lowered in a different thread anyway Brillo? I dont think you understand antiwomen rights. You seem to be fine with it.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Withano

The ball is in dups court. They can make a coalition with the tories under their terms, or they can refuse and force torys to make another snap election, one that they would likely lose.

THis is probably the most publicity the DUP have had in a while and they want a say in Brexit - I doubt they will refuse. As for an election - nothing in politics is certain and anything could happen.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

THis is probably the most publicity the DUP have had in a while and they want a say in Brexit - I doubt they will refuse. As for an election - nothing in politics is certain and anything could happen.

'Doubt' being the keyword. Everybody, including the dup knows that the ball is in their court. They can demand the world and the tories will have to accept or face a snap election. You have an odd amount of faith in the tories.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Yes they may have to make some concessions but it won't be women's rights, not in England. Besides the DUP want some say in their borders and Brexit so they can't be too pushy.

The DUP are extremists, they'll walk away if the Tories don't entertain their wishes.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Withano

Werent you fighting for the abortion limit to be lowered in a different thread anyway Brillo? I dont think you understand antiwomen rights. You seem to be fine with it.

Like many I said it wouldn't be a bad thing for it to be lowered from 24 weeks. I think you will find most on that thread felt that way.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Like many I said it wouldn't be a bad thing for it to be lowered from 24 weeks. I think you will find most on that thread felt that way.

Thats cool, you must be pretty psyched about the dup and tory coalition then! All the tory austerity with the antiwomen rights you love.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

The DUP are extremists, they'll walk away if the Tories don't entertain their wishes.

We will see. Let's wait and see shall we rather than trying to convince everyone that Corbyn will be the next PM - that is reaching. Don't know what you hope to achieve.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Like many I said it wouldn't be a bad thing for it to be lowered from 24 weeks. I think you will find most on that thread felt that way.

It's pointless to do so though since abortions only occur that late when it's a medical emergency. The vast majority of abortions take place when the foetus is not viable so the act of lowering the time limit for abortions is quite pointless.