[Denver]

Heidi Allen doesn’t see Theresa May staying as Prime Minister for longer than six months, the Conservative MP for South Cambridgeshire has said.

In a frank interview with LBC, Ms Allen said she does not think Ms May will remain Prime Minister "indefinitely" and her time at Number 10 could even be a "period of transition" as the UK negotiates Brexit.

"If this was any other election in any other time in our history you could say yes the Prime Minister needs to stand down, but this is different of course because we are about to start negotiating Brexit so that puts an entirely different complexion on that," she told LBC's Iain Dale.

"We do need a Prime Minister at this moment."

In reference to Ms May's speech outside Downing Street, Ms Allen, who was returned to the House of Commons with a majority of 15,952, added: "It's almost like she's unaware of what's happened in the past 24 hours.

http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news...rview-13165429

[bots]

She certainly wont fight the next election, the tories don't accept failure

[Kizzy]

Mind you if she sidesteps does that mean essentially we could have an unelected Bojo for the next 5yrs?... :/

[Oliver_W]

I see her as a bit of a necessary evil at the moment - unless some random backbencher or minor Cabinet member comes from the woodwork, there's just no suitable alternative right now.

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Mind you if she sidesteps does that mean essentially we could have an unelected Bojo for the next 5yrs?... :/

All PMs are unelected. They represent the largest party, the UK doesn't vote for the Prime Minister

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I see her as a bit of a necessary evil at the moment - unless some random backbencher or minor Cabinet member comes from the woodwork, there's just no suitable alternative right now.


All PMs are unelected. They represent the largest party, the UK doesn't vote for the Prime Minister

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Alf

Hmmmm, I could see him as a leader.
Mind you, you would need at least three hours for PM questions.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Mind you if she sidesteps does that mean essentially we could have an unelected Bojo for the next 5yrs?... :/

I actually think the Cons may not think of looking to Buffoon Boris really.

He bottled the challenge last year and in a really humiliating way, stabbed by Gove,yet Boris threw the towel in.

He looks on paper as much a liability as Mrs May has proved to be.
The first overall majority won by the Cons since 1992,nearly a quarter of a century.
Blown out and lost by her really shocking judgement and leadership, just 2 years later.

Having the Cons going from being a majority govt to have to near plead for full regular support from the DUP,of all Parties.

Johnson may be a charismatic stronger cabinet Minister but could prove another liability like Mrs May, in the real top job.

[Anaesthesia]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I actually think the Cons may not think of looking to Buffoon Boris really.

He bottled the challenge last year and in a really humiliating way, stabbed by Gove,yet Boris threw the towel in.

He looks on paper as much a liability as Mrs May has proved to be.
The first overall majority won by the Cons since 1992,nearly a quarter of a century.
Blown out and lost by her really shocking judgement and leadership, just 2 years later.

Having the Cons going from being a majority govt to have to near plead for full regular support from the DUP,of all Parties.

Johnson may be a charismatic stronger cabinet Minister but could prove another liability like Mrs May, in the real top job.

Tell you what, I actually thought Boris might be a good asset for the Tories. After having seen him run like **** from reality, when he had a chance to lead, I see him now as a little coward who is more about image than anything else.

[JTM45]

Good riddance! Byyyyeeee!

The way she conducted herself through this whole debacle (that SHE, against all the rules of common sense, initiated!) was absolutely shameful and an insult to the Great British public!

I actually think we should rename this section of the Forum as ''The Jeremy Corbyn Serious News & Debate Suite'' in honor of his truly fantastic performance against all the odds and nefarious slander. Other Party 'leaders' need to take notes on how it's done.

[Kizzy]

Has there been any word on the blatant hypocrisy?...

https://www.thecanary.co/2017/06/09/...rorists-video/

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Has there been any word on the blatant hypocrisy?...

https://www.thecanary.co/2017/06/09/...rorists-video/

Yet another U turn, not a word will be said about this because they are English terrorists who never got any condemnation in the British press, they were only killing Irish Catholics so no need to report that

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Yet another U turn, not a word will be said about this because they are English terrorists who never got any condemnation in the British press, they were only killing Irish Catholics so no need to report that

Amen to that... And still that is not being highlighted in the press, out current govt is a lying, hypocritical, shambles and thank god people have woken up to that!

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Has there been any word on the blatant hypocrisy?...

https://www.thecanary.co/2017/06/09/...rorists-video/

May's alliance now is out of neccesity. Corbyn's alliance is through choice and has been going on for years, decades. If you can't see the difference?

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

May's alliance now is out of neccesity. Corbyn's alliance is through choice and has been going on for years, decades. If you can't see the difference?

Not forgetting Corbyn's alliance was whilst his friends were bombing innocent men, women and children in both Northern Ireland and mainland Britain.
The DUP are legitimate members of the U.K. Parliament, as of course are Sinn Fein if they ever decide to take up their seats in parliament.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Has there been any word on the blatant hypocrisy?...

https://www.thecanary.co/2017/06/09/...rorists-video/

Thanks for that link Kizzy. A lot of media outlets have egg on their face.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Thanks for that link Kizzy. A lot of media outlets have egg on their face.

Not least the Canary.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Not least the Canary.

What's the Canary

[jet]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Has there been any word on the blatant hypocrisy?...

https://www.thecanary.co/2017/06/09/...rorists-video/

Only yours.

Corbyn is well known in N Ireland as an IRA sympathiser.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...IRA-links.html

Do you condemn his links to terrorism? His IRA buddies with links to Sinn Fein including their leader McGuiness killed and maimed thousands of innocent people, including women and children.
Much as I dislike the DUP, they are nothing compared to Sinn Fein and their buddies the murderous IRA.

Educate yourself before you pontificate about a country you haven't lived in all your life like I have. Perhaps if you had friends killed by the IRA you wouldn't think Corbyn such a great guy. That great guy spoke at rallies every year commemorating the loss of IRA killers. He makes me sick.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by jet

Much as I dislike the DUP, they are nothing compared to Sinn Fein and their buddies the murderous IRA.

OK I am still reading up about Irish Politics. But am watching an argument between some Irish friends about Sin Fein and the DUP and I am seeing..

As a female catholic in NI I must say it's an unbelievable situation, most people in Northern Ireland accept the DUP have terrorist links. Although I do agree that this spotlight might do something to help drag those dinosaurs into the reality of modern life. It does seem as though people in England didn't care about NI politics until now, I'm actually glad they will be scrutinised.

What is craziest is people saying that the DUP are not as bad as Sinn Fein because what the IRA were doing was worse.

I dare you to go to a Catholic area of NI and say that.

Read up on the **** the loyalist groups did during the Troubles before you start mouthing off about who was worse.

There are literally photos of Peter Robinson, who until very recently was the leader of the DUP, wearing paramilitary gear and leading the Ulster Resistance.

How the hell are the DUP, then, not linked to terrorism? Do you think the Ulster Resistance were just a friendly bunch of fellas who happened to enjoy running around in army gear for the lols?

And by getting into bed with them, I'm afraid TM does indeed condone terrorism.

Oh, but when loyalists do it, it's not terrorism, is it? It's 'defending your country' or 'refusing to surrender' something.

Seems to...depend on which side of the coin you are on?

[jet]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

OK I am still reading up about Irish Politics. But am watching an argument between some Irish friends about Sin Fein and the DUP and I am seeing..





Seems to...depend on which side of the coin you are on?

For a lot of people it does depend on which side of the coin you are on...and therefore a lot of lies/misconceptions are put out there to influence those who haven't lived through it all.
I was born a N.Irish Catholic and I support neither party - Sinn Fein nor DUP. I don't practice my religion. I am on nobody's 'side'. I tell the truth.

What is craziest is people saying that the DUP are not as bad as Sinn Fein because what the IRA were doing was worse.

I dare you to go to a Catholic area of NI and say that.

Read up on the **** the loyalist groups did during the Troubles before you start mouthing off about who was worse.

The DUP to my knowledge have had no murderers or terrorists among them. Not that I've ever heard of anyway. The loyalist paramilitaries support the party for obvious reasons - they want to stay part of the UK and retain their identity and culture as such.
Sinn Fein's own late leader, Martin McGuiness, was Chief of Staff of the IRA at the time 18 British soldiers were killed in Warrenpoint, NI and Mountbatten was assassinated, among many other atrocities. Many Sinn Fein members were IRA related - I'm not sure if this is still the case today.

The Troubles started because the Catholic community felt they didn't have equal rights to Protestants. This was true in some cases when it came to housing and jobs but that was more a social problem than a political one because Catholics had much larger families. Many Catholics didn't want to be ruled over by the British and wanted to identify with the Irish Republic. It's all much more complicated than that but that's the gist of it.

Who was worse, the IRA or the Loyalist Paramilitaries?

To me, the IRA, hands down.

They used bombs to target and kill thousands of innocent people in restaurants, bars, clubs, shops, fun run days out - it didn't matter that innocent woman and children were killed and maimed. Protestant OR Catholic.
Including dear Catholic friends of mine.

The Loyalist Para's? They did a few bombings but mostly targeted Catholics in isolation, many of them just because they happened to be Catholic. Shooting and vicious beatings were their preferred methods.

If it wasn't for the IRA, there would have been no Paramilitaries.

I lived in a Catholic area and have never had a problem from anyone of either religion. I had and still have Protestant friends. If you want trouble, it will find you anywhere.

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by jet

Only yours.

Corbyn is well known in N Ireland as an IRA sympathiser.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...IRA-links.html

Do you condemn his links to terrorism? His IRA buddies with links to Sinn Fein including their leader McGuiness killed and maimed thousands of innocent people, including women and children.
Much as I dislike the DUP, they are nothing compared to Sinn Fein and their buddies the murderous IRA.

Educate yourself before you pontificate about a country you haven't lived in all your life like I have. Perhaps if you had friends killed by the IRA you wouldn't think Corbyn such a great guy. That great guy spoke at rallies every year commemorating the loss of IRA killers. He makes me sick.

Good to see it from somebody who lives there and actually witnessed it Jet.
People only see what they want to and skip over the other stuff, or pass it off as fake news or whatever the buzzword of the day is.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by jet

Only yours.

Corbyn is well known in N Ireland as an IRA sympathiser.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...IRA-links.html

Do you condemn his links to terrorism? His IRA buddies with links to Sinn Fein including their leader McGuiness killed and maimed thousands of innocent people, including women and children.
Much as I dislike the DUP, they are nothing compared to the murderous IRA.

Educate yourself before you pontificate about a country you haven't lived in all your life like I have. Perhaps if you had friends killed by the IRA you wouldn't think Corbyn such a great guy. That great guy spoke at rallies every year commemorating the loss of IRA killers. He makes me sick.

How about you educating yourself? The topic about Corbyn and his supposed or not relationship with Sinn Fein has been talked about and argued about on here to tedious levels. Enough government links have been added and supplied to this site. (you need to go and find them yourself now if you really do want to be educated about this) to prove your accusations are 100% incorrect.

I'll say it one more time but the rest is up to you to research; if it wasn't for people like Corbyn, Mo Mowlam and others, (under government instruction) having peace negotiations with Sinn Fein; Good Friday wouldn't of happened and the IRA would probably still be bombing the UK

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

How about you educating yourself? The topic about Corbyn and his supposed or not relationship with Sinn Fein has been talked about and argued about on here to tedious levels. Enough government links have been added and supplied to this site. (you need to go and find them yourself now if you really do want to be educated about this) to prove your accusations are 100% incorrect.

I'll say it one more time but the rest is up to you to research; if it wasn't for people like Corbyn, Mo Mowlam and others, (under government instruction) having peace negotiations with Sinn Fein; Good Friday wouldn't of happened and the IRA would probably still be bombing the UK

Oh dear, so you are still saying that what you believe is true, and anyone else who dares to acknowledge the truth of the matter is uneducated.
You couldn't make it up.
Corbyn not only had NOTHING to do with the peace talks but he actually was against the original ones.
To mention Corbyn and Mo Molam in the same sentence is ludicrous.

[jet]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

How about you educating yourself? The topic about Corbyn and his supposed or not relationship with Sinn Fein has been talked about and argued about on here to tedious levels. Enough government links have been added and supplied to this site. (you need to go and find them yourself now if you really do want to be educated about this) to prove your accusations are 100% incorrect.

I'll say it one more time but the rest is up to you to research; if it wasn't for people like Corbyn, Mo Mowlam and others, (under government instruction) having peace negotiations with Sinn Fein; Good Friday wouldn't of happened and the IRA would probably still be bombing the UK

I haven't been on this site for some time, excuse me for being so neglectful.
What accusations are incorrect, exactly?
We in N.Ireland know Corbyn well from long long ago. The article I linked to brings back many memories of Corbyn in the 70's and his speeches at IRA rallies mourning the loss of murderers, witnessed by people who actually live here. Did you even read it?

Corbyn had peace talks with Sinn Fein in the 80's? I bet they did. I wonder what kind of talks they were having. He opposed the Anglo Irish Agreement.

John Hume, David Trimble, Martin McGuiness brought about the Good Friday Agreement. Hume and Trimble were awarded the Nobel Peace prize for their efforts, it was nothing to do with Corbyn.

Bury your head in the sand if you must.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by jet

I haven't been on this site for some time, excuse me for being so neglectful.
What accusations are incorrect, exactly?
We in N.Ireland know Corbyn well from long long ago. The article I linked to brings back many memories of Corbyn in the 70's and his speeches at IRA rallies mourning the loss of murderers, witnessed by people who actually live here. Did you even read it?

Corbyn had peace talks with Sinn Fein in the 80's? I bet they did. I wonder what kind of talks they were having. He opposed the Anglo Irish Agreement.

John Hume, David Trimble, Martin McGuiness brought about the Good Friday Agreement. Hume and Trimble were awarded the Nobel Peace prize for their efforts, it was nothing to do with Corbyn.

Bury your head in the sand if you must.

I never bury my head in the sand, just examine and scrutinize some very reliable sources. Hume and Trimble took the glory but they couldn't of done it without men like Corbyn. I can't stress this enough, Corbyn met with the 'Ras political representatives when there was a war on to try and open the way towards a peaceful political solution to the violence. Arlene foster met Jackie McDonald, a UDA terrorist leader, last week, now long after the end of the shooting war when the paramilitaries exist as organised crime syndicates who rule their own communities with an iron fist and don't do much else.

Also, while they don't quite have the same relationship with the Loyalist terror organisations that Sinn Fein have with the PIRA, they do funnel funds to their leadership from the public purse through the Social Investment Fund (which is basically a vehicle for bribing the leaders of the paramilitary organisations not to shoot people from the other side) and were publicly endorsed by the UDA, UFF and UVF leadership the week before this election.

They were also responsible for the flag protests that crippled Belfast city centre during 2013 and have been the vehicle of knuckle dragging reaction since they sucked up all the hard line unionist micro-parties and brought over the hard liners from the UUP. They are the embodiment of the reasons why Northern Ireland have not been able to move on.