[Jack_]

But I think it was accidental, I've just rewatched this clip a handful of times (and slowed it down) and if you look closely her hand clips the back of her head in the scuffle

Youtube video

If someone cba to highlight where Ellie and Hannah are on the clip that'd be great cause it's difficult to explain at the distant camera angle (I wish they'd stop using these in these instances). Ellie is at the back (furthest up the stairs of the group, and the closest to the camera - if that makes sense) and Hannah is below her to the right, with her back turned wearing pink and with a green thing on her head (sorry idk what it's called)

Pause the video at 00:20, then set the speed to 0.25 and watch closely, the hit happens at 00:22 and Hannah turns around (presumably in acknowledgement)

[sampvt]

absolute twaddle, she hit nobody, but if her hand glanced her, it was not ellies fault as she was being forced back up the stairs by the twisted sisters showing loads of aggression. Grasping at straws there mate.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by sampvt

absolute twaddle, she hit nobody, but if her hand glanced her, it was not ellies fault as she was being forced back up the stairs by the twisted sisters showing loads of aggression. Grasping at straws there mate.

Try reading the post again 'mate' (I'm getting so tired of having to say this on here), the first six words of the OP were 'but I think it was accidental'. Nowhere have I implied it was Ellie's (or in fact anyone's) fault. I suggest you retract your lies.

[Epic.]

Even if it was accidental, I still ultimately blame Ellie for not hearing out Hannah's claim and instead just denying denying denying and her not at least getting a talking to for this hit, albeit accidental, slightly aggravates me

[Rob!]

It was probably accidental but who cares really, it was one of the best moments in BB history

[Headie]

[TomC]

it's hannah who was wearing the green thing on her head i guess that's why hannah was the one saying 'she swung at my face'? idk.

[Brother Leon]

Deborah running up the stairs is still iconic.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by TomC

it's hannah who was wearing the green thing on her head i guess that's why hannah was the one saying 'she swung at my face'? idk.

Oh I thought it was Deborah who was accusing her of that? I stand corrected then

But same thing applies, I'll edit the post

[Headie]

(and yeah it's Hannah who gets hit not Deborah)

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Try reading the post again 'mate' (I'm getting so tired of having to say this on here), the first six words of the OP were 'but I think it was accidental'. Nowhere have I implied it was Ellie's (or in fact anyone's) fault. I suggest you retract your lies.

copied from you

Pause the video at 00:20, then set the speed to 0.25 and watch closely, the hit happens at 00:22 and Deborah turns around (presumably in acknowledgement)

Hit infers a strike, the accidental contact would be more understandable. Dont blame me for your bad grammar. ''MATE''

Also misrepresentations are not lies anyways. Lies are deliberately misleading facts. I dont tell lies. I get things wrong sometimes but never call me a liar.

[Ross.]

The footage doesn't lie!

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by sampvt

copied from you

Pause the video at 00:20, then set the speed to 0.25 and watch closely, the hit happens at 00:22 and Deborah turns around (presumably in acknowledgement)

Hit infers a strike, the accidental contact would be more understandable. Dont blame me for your bad grammar. ''MATE''

Also misrepresentations are not lies anyways. Lies are deliberately misleading facts. I dont tell lies. I get things wrong sometimes but never call me a liar.

No it doesn't, you can hit someone accidentally.

hit
hɪt/
verb
1.
bring one's hand or a tool or weapon into contact with (someone or something) quickly and forcefully.

Nowhere does it mention the word 'deliberately'. Don't blame me for your misunderstanding of dictionary definitions, MATE. It also seems a bit absurd to criticise me for having 'bad grammar' when you've forgotten an apostrophe in 'don't' twice in your post.

You seemed happy to call me whatever you wanted in your first abrasive reply to this thread, so I'll call you whatever I like.

[Mystic Mock]

I've got to be honest I still didn't see Ellie hit Hannah, it looked more like her arm brushed against Hannah, but I don't know if that was even intentional on Ellie's part.

But I'm gonna watch 1:14 again where Deborah runs up the stairs.

Edit... I slowed it down like you said Jack, Hannah did dodge a swing from someone upstairs, I'm presuming it was Ellie then.

[Amy Jade]

Eject the evil!

Deborah and Hannah are the ones called aggressive yet Ellie is the one hitting people. Ellie is pure scum.

[Jessica.]

I just made this, you can see the impact.



her arm hits her, she moves her arm back and then puts it out again in a defensive manner on the railings.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Eject the evil!

Deborah and Hannah are the ones called aggressive yet Ellie is the one hitting people. Ellie is pure scum.

Ellie was provoking it, and really acting as a immature brat, Charlotte had to drag her upstairs, like a mother who drags her child when he/she's naughty


really embarrassing this looked for Ellie

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

I just made this, you can see the impact.



her arm hits her, she moves her arm back and then puts it out again in a defensive manner on the railings.

Thanks Jess

[chuff me dizzy]

DEBORAH hit Hannah, if you look closely the arm that caught her was in a back top, Ellie was wearing pink

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

DEBORAH hit Hannah, if you look closely the arm that caught her was in a back top, Ellie was wearing pink

Deborah's hand moves in front of Hannah I can see that, but Ellie's hits Hannah's head from the back (see the gif Jess posted)

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

DEBORAH hit Hannah, if you look closely the arm that caught her was in a back top, Ellie was wearing pink

So the video and gif are wrong? You can clearly see Ellie's hand making contact with the side of her head.

[pontyboi]

Originally Posted by Epic.

Even if it was accidental, I still ultimately blame Ellie for not hearing out Hannah's claim and instead just denying denying denying and her not at least getting a talking to for this hit, albeit accidental, slightly aggravates me

But Hannah kept screeching "she hit me in the face" which was a complete lie I can see why Ellie got so wound up. Hannah does herself no favours she continuously makes mountains out the of mole hills.

[Amy Jade]

Hiting someone in the back of the head

Not only is Ellie scum but she is a coward.

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by pontyboi

But Hannah kept screeching "she hit me in the face" which was a complete lie I can see why Ellie got so wound up. Hannah does herself no favours she continuously makes mountains out the of mole hills.

She did hit/brush her face though, it wasn't a lie, the misunderstanding is about the motive, whether it was on purpose or not, but it definitely happened.

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by Jack_

No it doesn't, you can hit someone accidentally.

hit
hɪt/
verb
1.
bring one's hand or a tool or weapon into contact with (someone or something) quickly and forcefully.

Nowhere does it mention the word 'deliberately'. Don't blame me for your misunderstanding of dictionary definitions, MATE. It also seems a bit absurd to criticise me for having 'bad grammar' when you've forgotten an apostrophe in 'don't' twice in your post.

You seemed happy to call me whatever you wanted in your first abrasive reply to this thread, so I'll call you whatever I like.

Sorry about not using the apostrophe but im typing with one hand, my left, as my right is strapped to my chest after all my lymph nodes were removed recently and to get the comma I need 2 hands. Thats why I type without caps occasionally. by the way you even got the names wrong so how the hell can we get the whole picture from you. Please proof read before you post then we dont need to argue do we. simples.