[jaxie]

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/20...s-trump-tweets

When you protest and your government tells you to stop or 'pay the price'.

The difference between democracy and dictatorship.

I read in another report that the Iranian government said those shot were killed by foreigners.

[waterhog]

makes me feel grateful I live in the uk even if I rant about everything wrong with it in a poem. might have to change my thought process.

[jaxie]

We are incredibly lucky hog with the rights and freedoms we enjoy.

[DemolitionRed]

The Iranian government will put all these people on trial. Some will be sentenced to death, others will go to prison where many of them will disappear. My late husband once protested against the Ayatollah, not in Iran but in America. That protest caught up with him back in Iran three years later.

[arista]

Yes 2 dead reported

https://news.sky.com/story/two-prote...-iran-11190469

The younger public want more change.

[DemolitionRed]

Some of these protests are about low wages, inflation and rumors that the government are frittering money away on unnecessary resources. The story that's not being told is, some of these protests are hard liners who believe the government are becoming too westernized. An example of that is a large protest that's still ongoing after the government announced it would no longer be arresting women who don't cover their hair.

[bots]

Don't underestimate the role of Saudi Arabia in this either. They want insurgence in Iran

[DemolitionRed]

Interesting to understand that BBC Persian belongs to Britain and is funded by the British Foreign Office. Voice Of America (VOA) is owned by the US government and sent by satellite to Iran in Persian translation. Other media outlets that are directly or indirectly funded by the West are all making an effort to encourage these protests.

Lets also remind ourselves that Trump has put heavy sanctions on Iran and those sanctions are causing a lot of hardship.

[jaxie]

Well the UN put sanctions on Iran that were in place before Trump was even thought of as a Presidential candidate and those sanctions were over nuclear developmemt. The sanctions were actually relaxed due to an agreement over Iran's nuclear programme. Trump isn't solely responsible for everything.

[arista]

[Iran restricts social media apps
as it seeks to control widespread protests,
after two demonstrators are killed.]

https://news.sky.com/story/two-prote...-iran-11190469


Just reported,
The Iran President is going
to talk on national TV tonight

[Nicky91]

what a mess is that political state of that country

[DemolitionRed]

Every country the West meddles with ends up a mess.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Every country the West meddles with ends up a mess.

The problem is the religion and how it is being taught. The Hardline and the control.
http://theconversation.com/is-it-fai...dle-east-32487

[Crimson Dynamo]

id protest too if i lived in that vile country

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by jaxie

The problem is the religion and how it is being taught. The Hardline and the control.
http://theconversation.com/is-it-fai...dle-east-32487

I opened that link to see an American soldier covering the face of Saddam Husseins face with the American flag!

This has nothing to do with religion and all to do with pipe lines, oil and protecting Israel.

[bots]

i would say this particular unrest has nothing to do with the west. Saudi Arabia and Iran have been fighting it out for domination in the region, it's impossible to miss surely? Its a conflict between the 2 branches of their religious cult.

[DemolitionRed]

Its not about terrorism either. ISIS hate Shi'a Muslims. Iran is the enemy of ISIS.

America is on the side of Saudi Arabia and Saudi Arabia are of the same faith as ISIS and are known to support them.

The truth is, America only gets 10% of Irans oil and it wants a bigger share. I have no doubt that America will obliterate Iran, change its regime (once again) and take what doesn't belong to them.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i would say this particular unrest has nothing to do with the west. Saudi Arabia and Iran have been fighting it out for domination in the region, it's impossible to miss surely? Its a conflict between the 2 branches of their religious cult.

But who's supporting SA? America is. We are all appalled when shown ISIS’s public beheadings on TV. What we are not shown is the beheadings routinely performed by the SA government. Why does America support such a barbaric regime... oil?

[DemolitionRed]

Since 1980, we have invaded, occupied and/or bombed at least 14 different Muslim countries. After the sacrifice of thousands of American lives and trillions of dollars, the region is now a cauldron of death and destruction. Yet, we persist, with no end in sight.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeff-...b_7301370.html

[DemolitionRed]

Youtube video

[bots]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

But who's supporting SA? America is. We are all appalled when shown ISIS’s public beheadings on TV. What we are not shown is the beheadings routinely performed by the SA government. Why does America support such a barbaric regime... oil?

There is a difference between cooperating with them and supporting them. Saudi Arabia have a relatively good relationship with the likes the USA and the UK, but it doesn't mean they are actively involved. They don't need to be

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

There is a difference between cooperating with them and supporting them. Saudi Arabia have a relatively good relationship with the likes the USA and the UK, but it doesn't mean they are actively involved. They don't need to be

Saudi is the worlds biggest oil producer which has a massive effect on the world economy and the Saudis are complaint to the West. But Saudi Arabia know that there’s a limited supply. As their oil diminishes, they are faced with declining importance.

There is a very large oil reservoir is in the Caspian Sea and the Iranians presently pipe their crude oil to Russia and Russia sell a percentage to China. Saudi wants to pipe the oil out of the Caspain Sea into the Gulf and America wants to help oversee this project.

There will be a war in Iran. It will be done under the guise of Iran being a threat to the West.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

I opened that link to see an American soldier covering the face of Saddam Husseins face with the American flag!

This has nothing to do with religion and all to do with pipe lines, oil and protecting Israel.

It was a good article.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by jaxie

It was a good article.

It was an opinion piece and one with a lot of inaccuracies.

The West entered Baghdad as liberators against an evil dictator (notice its always America who gets to choose who’s evil). The same evil dictator the U.S put into power. The same evil dictator the U.S supported throughout its long war against Iran.

They didn’t enter Iraq because there was a load of Muslim warring tribes. The entered Iraq to get rid of Saddam who had just declared to the world that he was going to start a gold currency which would inevitably affect the U.S economy. They went into Iraq because of weapons of mass destruction, even though they knew there weren’t any.

If the West were liberators then why did they spend months prior to entering Iraq stirring up agitation amongst the Iraqi people? why after the West destroyed Baghdad did it stop Iraqi companies getting the tender to rebuild. (ensuring their economy couldn’t recover)? Why did the U.S stand back after destroying the forces of order and allow chaos to prevail? Why did they hang the US flag and not the Iraqi flag over Saddam’s statue?

Religion is irrelevant here. The vast majority of Iraq is the same religion as the Gulf states. The invasion of Iraq was a war of aggression to secure resources and stop a gold currency. It was an illegal war and a war that needlessly killed hundreds of Western troops and thousands of Iraqi civilians.

[arista]

['Ten dead' in Iran as anti-government protests continue]

https://news.sky.com/story/two-kille...tinue-11191415




getting worse now