[jaxie]

What is clear to me about Ann is that she is not comfortable viewing other peoples displays of affection and physical touching and sexualised play. This isn't' specific to men with men, it's any people. CBB is a television show but at the moment Ann is living inside it and she is fully allowed to feel this way and to be uncomfortable. That isn't a crime, she isn't hurting anyone else.

My own grandmother was the same, she didn't like you draping all over each other in her presence. She wouldn't have wanted to watch me kissing anyone or lap sitting or anything like that. I think this discomfort stemmed from her own life and being raised at a time when people didn't display public affection.

In 2018 we have almost shifted to the other end of the spectrum when you look at shows like Geordie Shore where people have a lot of casual sex on tv. Even BB and CBB have been all about the showmances, and people jumping into bed together.

In some ways Ann's disapproval comes from a different time when moral standards were different but it does make you wonder if society has gone a bit far in the wrong direction with this. Maybe to a degree she has a point. We have almost become immune to the degree of sexuality we are viewing on TV.

If I'm honest I watch BB for the drams and I enjoy seeing the social experiment side to it which has had a wonderful reboot in this years show. But I can't say I really enjoy seeing some Towie/Geordie bird with her tits out or Wayne Sleep's todger. I'd be mortified if I was watching one of my kids behaving in the same way. I'm not even a prude but it isn't what keeps me interested and it's not what I watch for so I can kind of understand Ann to a point not wanting to watch all that stuff, particularly live and right in front of her.

I think a lot of the people criticising her are on the wrong track and a lot of people are influenced by what they've read about her long past voting inclinations in her job as an MP. Even there some of the influence is without the context of her reasoning behind how she voted at the time. She doesn't have an ism or a phobia, she is old fashioned and the product of a different generation.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by jaxie

What is clear to me about Ann is that she is not comfortable viewing other peoples displays of affection and physical touching and sexualised play. This isn't' specific to men with men, it's any people. CBB is a television show but at the moment Ann is living inside it and she is fully allowed to feel this way and to be uncomfortable. That isn't a crime, she isn't hurting anyone else.

My own grandmother was the same, she didn't like you draping all over each other in her presence. She wouldn't have wanted to watch me kissing anyone or lap sitting or anything like that. I think this discomfort stemmed from her own life and being raised at a time when people didn't display public affection.

In 2018 we have almost shifted to the other end of the spectrum when you look at shows like Geordie Shore where people have a lot of casual sex on tv. Even BB and CBB have been all about the showmances, and people jumping into bed together.

In some ways Ann's disapproval comes from a different time when moral standards were different but it does make you wonder if society has gone a bit far in the wrong direction with this. Maybe to a degree she has a point. We have almost become immune to the degree of sexuality we are viewing on TV.

If I'm honest I watch BB for the drams and I enjoy seeing the social experiment side to it which has had a wonderful reboot in this years show. But I can't say I really enjoy seeing some Towie/Geordie bird with her tits out or Wayne Sleep's todger. I'd be mortified if I was watching one of my kids behaving in the same way. I'm not even a prude but it isn't what keeps me interested and it's not what I watch for so I can kind of understand Ann to a point not wanting to watch all that stuff, particularly live and right in front of her.

I think a lot of the people criticising her are on the wrong track and a lot of people are influenced by what they've read about her long past voting inclinations in her job as an MP. Even there some of the influence is without the context of her reasoning behind how she voted at the time. She doesn't have an ism or a phobia, she is old fashioned and the product of a different generation.

My grown up children wouldn't dare drape all over a partner kissing and being vaguely sexual in front of me, I would soon put a stop to it

[-Sue-]

The irony of it all is she considered Shane & Andrew as lewd but didn't seem to kick up a fuss when Ashley was laying on top of G!!! or draped all over him like a cheap suit!double standards!

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by -Sue-

The irony of it all is she considered Shane & Andrew as lewd but didn't seem to kick up a fuss when Ashley was laying on top of G!!! or draped all over him like a cheap suit!double standards!

yes its the same as rolling around pretending to trib like a couple of mma lesbians on XVideos

[Vanessa]

Ann is a hypocrite. So kissing and draping yourself over someone is fine. But a bit if leg wrestling is lewd behaviour?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Ann is a hypocrite. So kissing and draping yourself over someone is fine. But a bit if leg wrestling is lewd behaviour?

No she is not ,she has also shown distain for Ashley and G too and some of the dirty talk

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

No she is not ,she has also shown distain for Ashley and G too and some of the dirty talk

All true

[Vanessa]

Ann should have nominated Ashley and G for the small reason. They were kissing and cuddling.

[Paula D]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Ann is a hypocrite. So kissing and draping yourself over someone is fine. But a bit if leg wrestling is lewd behaviour?

More lies

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

yes its the same as rolling around pretending to trib like a couple of mma lesbians on XVideos

At noms both Andrew and his bitch were doing hand gestures which looked to me like they were faking a sexual position while "innocently wrestling " did you think same ?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by -Sue-

The irony of it all is she considered Shane & Andrew as lewd but didn't seem to kick up a fuss when Ashley was laying on top of G!!! or draped all over him like a cheap suit!double standards!

She HAS shown distain at Ashely and Ginuwine though,so it's no different for them.

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

She HAS shown distain at Ashely and Ginuwine though,so it's no different for them.

Yes she did, she spoke to Ashley about it as well.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Ellen

Yes she did, she spoke to Ashley about it as well.

But she didn't nominate them for it

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

But she didn't nominate them for it

Well i dont remember them doing a lewd sex act or did they

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

But she didn't nominate them for it

Maybe she likes Ashley better her choice

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by -Sue-

The irony of it all is she considered Shane & Andrew as lewd but didn't seem to kick up a fuss when Ashley was laying on top of G!!! or draped all over him like a cheap suit!double standards!

She did though, several times she left the room and there was a discussion about it.

[Paula D]

Originally Posted by -Sue-

The irony of it all is she considered Shane & Andrew as lewd but didn't seem to kick up a fuss when Ashley was laying on top of G!!! or draped all over him like a cheap suit!double standards!

How many times do you have to be told that she did object to Ashley and G??

Do you watch the show at all or just come on the forum to scream homophobe?

[-Sue-]

Originally Posted by Paula D

How many times do you have to be told that she did object to Ashley and G??

Do you watch the show at all or just come on the forum to scream homophobe?

calm yourself I am neither blind nor a subject for you to rant at! and just for the record I have not screamed homophobe if you must get mad at me for having an opinion that doesn't match yours at least please quote me correctly thanks

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Paula D

How many times do you have to be told that she did object to Ashley and G??

Do you watch the show at all or just come on the forum to scream homophobe?

Yes she did

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by -Sue-

The irony of it all is she considered Shane & Andrew as lewd but didn't seem to kick up a fuss when Ashley was laying on top of G!!! or draped all over him like a cheap suit!double standards!

she did, didn't G accuse her of racism in a round about way?

[Robertocarlo]

Originally Posted by -Sue-

The irony of it all is she considered Shane & Andrew as lewd but didn't seem to kick up a fuss when Ashley was laying on top of G!!! or draped all over him like a cheap suit!double standards!

Precisely. That's why I believe Anne to be not only a prude but also a homophobe as well. As a Gay man myself I am amazed at the level of support given to this bigoted woman in this group. Shows me that old hatreds against people like myself still simmer under the surface.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Robertocarlo

Precisely. That's why I believe Anne to be not only a prude but also a homophobe as well. As a Gay man myself I am amazed at the level of support given to this bigoted woman in this group. Shows me that old hatreds against people like myself still simmer under the surface.

Oh please .... Give it a chuffing rest Poor me poor me

[-Sue-]

Originally Posted by Robertocarlo

Precisely. That's why I believe Anne to be not only a prude but also a homophobe as well. As a Gay man myself I am amazed at the level of support given to this bigoted woman in this group. Shows me that old hatreds against people like myself still simmer under the surface.

((hugs)) sadly on forums come varying opinions and not all of them kind just know some of us don't think it should be tolerated all I can say is I can't wait for Ann to get off my TV

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by -Sue-

((hugs)) sadly on forums come varying opinions and not all of them kind just know some of us don't think it should be tolerated all I can say is I can't wait for Ann to get off my TV

I've gone off her completely. I can't tolerate homophobia. Also, she rules that house. What she says goes and everyone just agrees in there. This is why I hope Shane survives. He will challenge her.

[-Sue-]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I've gone off her completely. I can't tolerate homophobia. Also, she rules that house. What she says goes and everyone just agrees in there. This is why I hope Shane survives. He will challenge her.

I have to admit ann is doing my nut! I do agree people fear her backlash/ comments/afraid of saying/doing things incase they offend.. sure respect your elders but when does respect your elders stop and become do what ann says /wants its her house and stop being everyone else's once in a lifetime experience too!

I do think Shane is quieter because of the fear from Ann repercussions.. which is such a shame as he started off so well