[Crimson Dynamo]

The president of the campaign for France to leave the EU says the European Commission's "terrible" vaccine rollout management is the best advert for Frexit.

Should France leave?

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...latest-news-vn

[The Slim Reaper]

Fortunately for the French, they've watched the disaster over here, and they haven't had Murdoch ramming bendy bananas down their throats for 20 years. The EU is extremely popular in France, so won't be happening anytime soon.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Fortunately for the French, they've watched the disaster over here, and they haven't had Murdoch ramming bendy bananas down their throats for 20 years. The EU is extremely popular in France, so won't be happening anytime soon.

There's already a thread to tell your jokes.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Alf

There's already a thread to tell your jokes.

You said brexit was for our fishermen, but they've been completely ruined by it.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

You said brexit was for our fishermen, but they've been completely ruined by it.

Balderdash

[Crimson Dynamo]

the "disaster" never happened

much to the chagrin of the extreme left

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

the "disaster" never happened

much to the chagrin of the extreme left

Errrr...what?

[Crimson Dynamo]

[DouglasS]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

U.K. are doing incredible

It is literally a fact that if we were part of the EU thousands more people would be dead.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by DouglasS

U.K. are doing incredible

It is literally a fact that if we were part of the EU thousands more people would be dead.

And not one word of thanks to us leavers whom saved their butts.

I don't mind, I expect it.

[Beso]

The eu would have slowed down our vacc process, probably brought on by pure jealousy that we are and always will be one step ahead of them.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by DouglasS

U.K. are doing incredible

It is literally a fact that if we were part of the EU thousands more people would be dead.

No it isn't. Brexit had nothing to do with procurement of the vaccine. Ask bots, as he tried to insinuate this, too.

[DouglasS]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

No it isn't. Brexit had nothing to do with procurement of the vaccine. Ask bots, as he tried to insinuate this, too.

There’s no way looking at that graph that that can be true, the U.K. is literally treble/quadruple all EU countries... unless the U.K. government really is that good/organised... The EU definitely slowed down the procurement

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by DouglasS

There’s no way looking at that graph that that can be true, the U.K. is literally treble/quadruple all EU countries... unless the U.K. government really is that good/organised... The EU definitely slowed down the procurement

It's amazing what is and isn't true if you don't fall for confirmation bias. Forgive me, as the scientist I don't need to explain that to you.

[Scarlett.]

Breaking news: Anti-EU man says the EU are bad

[Tom4784]

I pity anyone who believes that Brexit has been a good thing, they simply have lost touch with reality and have chosen to lick the boots of Tories rather than acknowledge that those same tories told them lies and they didn't even question it. To acknowledge Brexit as a failure is to acknowledge that they have failed by supporting it while being ignorant to the reality of it all and people's egos are far too fragile for them to have the capacity of that kind of self reflection.

Originally Posted by Scarlett.

Breaking news: Anti-EU man says the EU are bad

Pretty much, it's a nothing article.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

The president of the campaign for France to leave the EU says the European Commission's "terrible" vaccine rollout management is the best advert for Frexit.

Should France leave?

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...latest-news-vn

Anti-EU agenda by the british, how not surpising


i don't trust the vaccines so far, my mom doesn't trust the vaccines either, when we read about nasty side effects


also more worrying is UK's how many 16 or 17 million vaccinations done, hope you got enough jabs for their second dose, and hope you guys are aware you have to do this every year now, same as a normal flu jab, sooo i hope you guys indeed have enough doses in storage


also your precious oxford/AZ vaccine only 55% effectiveness so far not enough guarantee that one actually will help, and UK's government just vaccinated millions of people with that garbage nevertheless of what the numbers were saying

also AZ doesn't seem to have much effect in the 55 or older age groups, bc of terrible side effects


my point first look at yourselves, then look at other countries (and i know my own country NL made lot of mistakes but therefore i won't be negative on other EU countries their approach at the coronacrisis)


Boris now suddenly getting praise for vaccinating millions when that might've not been good

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

Anti-EU agenda by the british, how not surpising


i don't trust the vaccines so far, my mom doesn't trust the vaccines either, when we read about nasty side effects


also more worrying is UK's how many 16 or 17 million vaccinations done, hope you got enough jabs for their second dose, and hope you guys are aware you have to do this every year now, same as a normal flu jab, sooo i hope you guys indeed have enough doses in storage


also your precious oxford/AZ vaccine only 55% effectiveness so far not enough guarantee that one actually will help, and UK's government just vaccinated millions of people with that garbage nevertheless of what the numbers were saying

also AZ doesn't seem to have much effect in the 55 or older age groups, bc of terrible side effects


my point first look at yourselves, then look at other countries (and i know my own country NL made lot of mistakes but therefore i won't be negative on other EU countries their approach at the coronacrisis)


Boris now suddenly getting praise for vaccinating millions when that might've not been good

What terrible side effects have you read about Nicky? I know lots of people who have had the vaccine now and their side effects have ranged from nothing at best to a sore arm and headachy at worse

The alternative of getting Covid is shortness of breath, hospitalisation and possible death...I can't believe the side effects of the vaccine are worse than that

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

What terrible side effects have you read about Nicky? I know lots of people who have had the vaccine now and their side effects have ranged from nothing at best to a sore arm and headachy at worse

The alternative of getting Covid is shortness of breath, hospitalisation and possible death...I can't believe the side effects of the vaccine are worse than that

headaches, sore arm ummm those are the least bad symptoms

compared to getting fevers, nausea, breathing problems


also i'm not a anti-vaxxer, my mom isn't either but we read more negatives on the vaccines than positives, also quite some who after vaccination got the virus and also very badly, and quite some who died after the vaccination

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

headaches, sore arm ummm those are the least bad symptoms

compared to getting fevers, nausea, breathing problems


also i'm not a anti-vaxxer, my mom isn't either but we read more negatives on the vaccines than positives, also quite some who after vaccination got the virus and also very badly, and quite some who died after the vaccination

Fair enough it is obviously your choice.....but as I said out of the millions of vaccines here there have been very few with serious adverse effects. Our cases are dropping, back by science that its due in part to vaccines.

You have to make your own decision though so I commend that.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Fair enough it is obviously your choice.....but as I said out of the millions of vaccines here there have been very few with serious adverse effects. Our cases are dropping, back by science that its due in part to vaccines.

You have to make your own decision though so I commend that.

cases are dropping globally, WHO had said too recently


so maybe it might fade away at some point on its own, i mean 1918 spanish flu also went away on its own, without vaccines ok after millions of people having died which is horrible but hope you do understand what i'm trying to say


we just need to shield the elderly and most vulnerable, we don't need to make ourselves rely on a vaccine, also not very effective vaccines wouldn't be wise to give those to elderly and most vulnerable, bc if it has no effect and they think they are immune that is quite dangerous and might increase chance for them to get infected

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

Anti-EU agenda by the british, how not surpising


i don't trust the vaccines so far, my mom doesn't trust the vaccines either, when we read about nasty side effects


also more worrying is UK's how many 16 or 17 million vaccinations done, hope you got enough jabs for their second dose, and hope you guys are aware you have to do this every year now, same as a normal flu jab, sooo i hope you guys indeed have enough doses in storage


also your precious oxford/AZ vaccine only 55% effectiveness so far not enough guarantee that one actually will help, and UK's government just vaccinated millions of people with that garbage nevertheless of what the numbers were saying

also AZ doesn't seem to have much effect in the 55 or older age groups, bc of terrible side effects


my point first look at yourselves, then look at other countries (and i know my own country NL made lot of mistakes but therefore i won't be negative on other EU countries their approach at the coronacrisis)


Boris now suddenly getting praise for vaccinating millions when that might've not been good

So much of this is inaccurate Nicky but I don't have time so I'll just pick up one;

If vaccination is needed every year it will be for new emerging strains, so would be a new vaccine... storing doses of the current ones to use in future would be pointless.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

So much of this is inaccurate Nicky but I don't have time so I'll just pick up one;

If vaccination is needed every year it will be for new emerging strains, so would be a new vaccine... storing doses of the current ones to use in future would be pointless.

''If''

vaccination is needed every year, a common fact what we know also from the normal flu

[Captain.Remy]

He's completely unknown in France, and the candidate pro-Frexit scored 0.92% of the votes in the 2017 Presidential Election.
So yeah.

Even Marine Le Pen, that horrible lady (and runner-up to Macron in 2017), wouldn't want to get out of the EU. As much as she hates it, it's one of her biggest funding source.