[arista]

Starmer
can keep saying he will do no deals with SNP?


But on the General Election
in 2 years he will need SNP MP's
to get into power


Its all in the numbers


Starmer has given an interview
to Rigby on SkyNewsHD
(Friday at the Roundhouse,London)


Not on this topic, though

[Oliver_W]

Not necessarily.

One would hope that the current government can be gotten rid of without siding with a party that wants to split up the country.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Not necessarily.

One would hope that the current government can be gotten rid of without siding with a party that wants to split up the country.

At this time
No splits in the UK


Labour can only get in power with the help of the SNP.

[joeysteele]

If Labour are anything around 9+% above the Cons.
Labour could have a small to well into double figure majority.

The average of all polling at present which I have little faith in.
Have never however had the Cons ahead by even 1% for a good few months now.

Labour could easily be the largest party in such scenarios with anything from being short by 10 seats to around 20.

However with the Speaker and deputy speakers who usually don't vote plus Sinn Feinn with around 6 seats who don't come to Westminster.
326 is NOT the figure needed for an overall majority.
321 is.

I would doubt with great certainty of such doubt that the Lib Dems will not jump in the deceitful Con circus, even with either of these 2 candidates leading the Cons.

Plaid Cymru would never support the Cons.
Nor would any Greens.

The Alliance party in N Ireland wouldn't either just as the SDLP would not too.

So really it's more like unless the Cons got an unexpected overall majority or with around 8 DUP MPs, then that's the only way the Cons could govern.


However too, I think not necessarily with any deals or coalitions, a Labour led government able to rely on the SNP could prove to be an extremely good scenario.
The SNP couldn't ever dare to put in or risk putting in another Con administration, they'd pay likely heavily for that in Scotland.

I'd have no concerns whatsoever however of a Labour and SNP connection of a deal or even coalition.

After all IF it was fine for the Cons to do a deal with the bigoted DUP from N Ireland to be in government then it would be hypocritical to moan at any kind of Labour and SNP connection.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

At this time
No splits in the UK


Labour can only get in power with the help of the SNP.

That's not really correct arista.
Sorry.

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

That's not really correct arista.
Sorry.

It's in the numbers


Labour Leader ignores that
that is crazy

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

It's in the numbers


Labour Leader ignores that
that is crazy

Really it's not.

The only number that matters is if they were ahead,how many percentage points Labour was ahead of the Cons on polling day.

The SNP could have close to 50 seats.
However if Labour were 9%+ ahead of the Cons, they would much more than likely have an overall majority.
The bigger the lead the bigger the majority.

Plus even if the Cons ended up 2% ahead of Labour.
The Cons then would not have an overall majority.

[bitontheslide]

labour can win the election on their own, obviously, they don't need the SNP. Whether they will or not remains to be seen. There is nothing more unpredictable than politics. The fact that the SNP are going to make the next GE a de facto independence vote, could push a lot of scottish seats back to labour

[arista]

On the Day of the General Election
2024 May

That is when we will see

Even Labour MP's are saying they will need the SNP

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by arista

Starmer
can keep saying he will do no deals with SNP?


But on the General Election
in 2 years he will need SNP MP's
to get into power


Its all in the numbers


Starmer has given an interview
to Rigby on SkyNewsHD
(Friday at the Roundhouse,London)


Not on this topic, though

No he doesn't I think people are heartily sick of the Tories and Liz Truss in charge will tip people over the edge