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Old 09-11-2024, 12:22 PM #1
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Default Why is it okay for Ali to actively be a man hater all series but..

Marcello makes the odd sexual comment and none pg Joke and he gets called a misogynistic who hates women even though half of his friends in their are women and he clearly has alot of love for them... yet Ali actively was very open about her clear dislike of straight men but thats fine because shes a woman the double standards this series piss me off.
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She hasn’t said anything man hating she’s just pointed out certain behaviours that are exhibits of toxic masculinity.
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She hasn’t said anything man hating she’s just pointed out certain behaviours that are exhibits of toxic masculinity.
What exactly was Khaleds toxic masculinity when she picked on him for weeks?
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What exactly was Khaleds toxic masculinity when she picked on him for weeks?
She wanted him gone ,and her plan worked .... it's as simple as that, it just took longer than she anticipated,so her game plan kept changing .

Once he was getting saved ,and once she was losing her friends in the house ,she started buddying up with him. But yeah she started the whole " Khaled is fake" BS
...which destroyed him in the end, as other housemates
started jumping on the bandwagon to slag him off . Then she did a 180 and suddenly felt " bad for him", when she instigated the whole thing.
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She wanted him gone ,and her plan worked .... it's as simple as that, it just took longer than she anticipated,so her game plan kept changing .

Once he was getting saved ,and once she was losing her friends in the house ,she started buddying up with him. But yeah she started the whole " Khaled is fake" BS
...which destroyed him in the end, as other housemates
started jumping on the bandwagon to slag him off . Then she did a 180 and suddenly felt " bad for him", when she instigated the whole thing.
Exactly and some how people have forgiven her and are now acting like she didn't start this in the first place
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She’s not a man hater for having opinions on men she has to interact with, if Marcello doesn’t want to come across like a misogynist, he should probably change the way he talks about women
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She’s not a man hater for having opinions on men she has to interact with, if Marcello doesn’t want to come across like a misogynist, he should probably change the way he talks about women
Im not just talking about Marcello though am i Dean was the exact same he seemed to hate masculine men
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Exactly and some how people have forgiven her and are now acting like she didn't start this in the first place
Probably because she does subliminal messages with the attire she wears. She's trying to come across as some SJW with a cape, she throws in buzz words like
" toxic masculinity" ,whilst shielding herself as some victim.

She repeatedly said her group were being " picked off 1 by 1 ", but really that's just made her position far stronger
now.....and she knows this. It just means she had to
move around the chess board a bit more . And now that Lily has gone , that's pretty much handed Ali the win now.

It actually would have been fitting if Ali got evicted with Lily.
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Probably because she does subliminal messages with the attire she wears. She's trying to come across as some SJW with a cape, she throws in buzz words like
" toxic masculinity" ,whilst shielding herself as some victim.

She repeatedly said her group were being " picked off 1 by 1 ", but really that's just made her position far stronger
now.....and she knows this. It just means she had to
move around the chess board a bit more . And now that Lily has gone , that's pretty much handed Ali the win now.

It actually would have been fitting if Ali got evicted with Lily.
Everything you said is so true but some people are so blind to it.
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She should be out this week

3 Must be Evicted before the Grand Final on Friday

Ali will be one of them
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Im not just talking about Marcello though am i Dean was the exact same he seemed to hate masculine men
Yes, because like a lot of gay men he’s obviously had bad experiences with traditionally masculine men that has forged his opinions, it’s not man hating no matter which way you try and twist it
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She should be out this week

3 Must be Evicted before the Grand Final on Friday

Ali will be one of them
Keep voting Marcello and or Hanah to win we need her gone
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3 Must be Evicted before the Grand Final on Friday

Ali will be one of them
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Yes, because like a lot of gay men he’s obviously had bad experiences with traditionally masculine men that has forged his opinions, it’s not man hating no matter which way you try and twist it
Ok by that same logic

Marcello would be in his every right to say something like " I don't trust women as I've experienced gold digger bitches" , hmm somehow I don't think it would be accepted though .
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I very much doubt he has any male straight friends in her life...
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I can’t stand her toxic femininity tbh
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Keep voting Marcello and or Hanah to win we need her gone
See, this is why Ali won't be gone. The people against her can't decide on a single other HM to put there votes behind and so the anti Ali vote will split.

I see Emma as the natural choice for that, but clearly others won't.

To the original point of the OP though... X and Reddit, and by extension the BB production team, give zero ***** about misandry. In fact they actively enjoy it. It's an acceptable bigotry to that crowd.
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See, this is why Ali won't be gone. The people against her can't decide on a single other HM to put there votes behind and so the anti Ali vote will split.

I see Emma as the natural choice for that, but clearly others won't.

To the original point of the OP though... X and Reddit, and by extension the BB production team, give zero ***** about misandry. In fact they actively enjoy it. It's an acceptable bigotry to that crowd.
You are actually right we all need to come together and decide on a hm between us who to vote the most for because otherwise Ali will win.
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You are actually right we all need to come together and decide on a hm between us who to vote the most for because otherwise Ali will win.
Sure, but everyone will always think it should be 'their guy' and there is no way of changing that.

The only way that Ali is going is if she is up against one other HM who we can all focus behind and the production team in unlikely to allow that at this point.
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She’s not a man hater for having opinions on men she has to interact with, if Marcello doesn’t want to come across like a misogynist, he should probably change the way he talks about women
Spot on. it’s actually scary how people ignore the way he “jokes” about women and objectifies them but god forbid someone call him out on it and they’re a man hater.
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Spot on. it’s actually scary how people ignore the way he “jokes” about women and objectifies them but god forbid someone call him out on it and they’re a man hater.
Is this a deliberate misunderstanding of what has actually happened over this series?
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Is this a deliberate misunderstanding of what has actually happened over this series?
No actually. Are we not allowed to disagree with you and call out behaviour like he’s displayed at all?
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No actually. Are we not allowed to disagree with you and call out behaviour like he’s displayed at all?
I didn't say you weren't allowed to disagree with me... I just wondered if you were deliberately misunderstanding what has been happening all season (not just with Marcello) or if it was genuine.

If you say genuine, that's fine. Just asking.
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I didn't say you weren't allowed to disagree with me... I just wondered if you were deliberately misunderstanding what has been happening all season (not just with Marcello) or if it was genuine.

If you say genuine, that's fine. Just asking.
That’s fine then. No problems.
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Yeah, she hates straight men and loves herself. Still, she'll win because she has the nutters on her side. She's gay, wore a t-shirt etc.
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