[Ollie!]

Charley and Chanelle are all over the papaers and magazines selling their stories, making stories up and milking it for all it's worth. The likes of Jade and Chantelle have become millionaires through being famous on BB. Instead of being a social experiment and a game is BB merely a fame factory?

[Stu]

Can it not be both? If you are to make that claim then we are to assume that virtually every TV show out their is a fame factory.

[~Beachbum~]

of course its a fame factory (ever since bb5), thats why people like chanelle, chantelle, charley etc go on it!!

[Ollie!]

Originally posted by Stu
Can it not be both? If you are to make that claim then we are to assume that virtually every TV show out their is a fame factory.

I'm not making any claim, I'm just puttuing the idea out there for discussion.

Personally I want to forget about the hms when they've left the house. They never have any talent. We have enough nobody celebs.

[Juelz]

who cares.......

it stopped being a social experiment after BB1.....

its comercialised now but who cares we enjoy it
and ppl enjoy reading aboutn the HMs in magazines...

[aj2463]

Yea thats the main reason people go on it now, to get famous x

[Stu]

You should not have much of a hard time forgetting them. Most of them drift around for 4 months before passing on to the farplane anyway.

As for the post BB5 thing - id disagree with that. most of the 'celebrity' housemates have emerged from the first four series.

[~Beachbum~]

Originally posted by Stu
You should not have much of a hard time forgetting them. Most of them drift around for 4 months before passing on to the farplane anyway.

As for the post BB5 thing - id disagree with that. most of the 'celebrity' housemates have emerged from the first four series.

yes they may have, but people only started going in with the INTENTION of getting fame at bb5, jade from bb3 didnt go in for fame, and neither did brian bb2.

[Stu]

Originally posted by ~Roo~

yes they may have, but people only started going in with the INTENTION of getting fame at bb5, jade from bb3 didnt go in for fame, and neither did brian bb2.

Thats judgemental but the term 'fame FACTORY' applies to the first four because they PRODUCED minor/short term celebritys.

[Ollie!]

Yeah I don't think the people on the first BB expected to be famous. They weren't so naive afterwards with the 2nd and 3rd but the pennt didn't drop yet in those...

I think Jade Goody changed that with her success IMO. After that the fame hungry types like Charley and Nikki have become standard housemates.

[Stu]

Originally posted by Ollie!
Yeah I don't think the people on the first BB expected to be famous. The same with the 2nd and 3rd.

I think Jade Goody changed that with her success IMO. After that the fame hungry types like Charley and Nikki have become standard housemates.

Yep , Jade was defo the turning point.

[Ollie!]

They weren't so naive afterwards with the 2nd and 3rd but the penny didn't drop yet in those for the fame seekers.

I think BB actively started to seek different types after BB4(bore). Before that the Jade effect couldn't be seen because the people only interested in furthering their careers were rejected in favour of 'real' people. So it took a series after Jade to get the likes of Michelle Bass etc...

[Wildcat!]

The fact that you are a big brother fan nad you have watched all the shows, you wont forget them anyways, weather they are in magazines or not. The only people that forget them, are the ones who dont watch BB. As for them being in magazines, I would, so would everyone else offered the opportunity.

[Ollie!]

For me BB has become firstly a soap opera with characters, secondly a popularity contest, thirdly a fame factory and lastly a game. You don't even have to come anywhere near to winning the thing to be famous. And the winners no longer do the best for themselves.

The first one was merely a social experiemnt, but even in that there was the first character: Nasty Nick.

The producers have a soap to produce, storylines to keep up and goodies and baddies to create. All about those ratings baby!

[GlitterEyes]

I think the days of BB1 are long gone and normal people are not interested in the show now. It is the fame hungry wannabes that apply and get chosen...the more unstable the more chance they have of getting on.

[Stu]

Originally posted by GlitterEyes
I think the days of BB1 are long gone and normal people are not interested in the show now. It is the fame hungry wannabes that apply and get chosen...the more unstable the more chance they have of getting on.

Well thats been dispelled this year hasent it?!

[Ruth]

Housemates these days are definitely applying because they think it's their ticket to fame - most of them say that themselves. But usually they have their 15 minutes of fame, and then that's it.

BB hasn't been a 'social experiment' for years, and if the producers think that people are still falling for that line, they must be deluded. It's hardly an experiment when all the situations and conflict is deliberately engineered.

[Ruth]

Originally posted by nowsthebturn
The fact that you are a big brother fan nad you have watched all the shows, you wont forget them anyways, weather they are in magazines or not. The only people that forget them, are the ones who dont watch BB. As for them being in magazines, I would, so would everyone else offered the opportunity.

Yes, but just because you remember them doesn't mean that they are famous.

And there's no way you would get me in Heat magazine or any other of those trashy type rags!

[Ruth]

Originally posted by Ollie!
For me BB has become firstly a soap opera with characters, secondly a popularity contest, thirdly a fame factory and lastly a game. You don't even have to come anywhere near to winning the thing to be famous. And the winners no longer do the best for themselves.

The first one was merely a social experiemnt, but even in that there was the first character: Nasty Nick.

The producers have a soap to produce, storylines to keep up and goodies and baddies to create. All about those ratings baby!

[James]

I think the difference with the early series is that a lot of the housemates were fame hungry but they thought they could get media jobs out of it (and some of them did).

But since BB5 onwards there haven't been any media opportunities - or hardly any at least - so the show attracts people who want to be famous-for-being-famous; people who want to emulate Jade.

It seems to me that the only housemates that make good money after Big Brother these days are women who are good-looking enough to interest the lads' mags. Which is a pity really because people are being judged ultimately on how good-looking they are instead of their personalities.

Heat will also pay a couple for an exclusive about their Big Brother 'romance'... which breaks up about a month later.