[Blowout]

I know that the new three have come in close to the end but Liam, Ziggy, Brian and Gerry must remember there not originals themselves and how it felt for them to join an already formed group.

[andybigbro]

Yeah i was thinking that

[iem]

yeah exactly!

[imagination]

especially LIam. Frankly he is the one I am most shocked about. Ziggy came in 2 days after the girls, so he never really way a newby. Brian and Liam where, but Liam was given 100K fund, 5 days after he entered the house. Thats why I always thought he didnt deserve it. If he were treated like they are treating these newbees, he wouldnt have lasted a week. Shame people didnt suss him soon enough! Get him out ASAP!

[Dan_]

The thing is they came in fairly soon into the show but now that they've been in the house so long and bonded it's hard to be really be accepting of new people over the one's you have built up such an understanding with.It's not as if they are being totally nasty or anything to them.

They just have their loyalties and trust in other housemates and on the whole each of them all get along with each other now, they cannot change that.

[Wildcat!]

They are cocky now, they have become smug, and even singled Gerry out of it. Unfortunately, I might start liking Gerry if it continues! BUt I still want Bri to win

[Abraxas]

It wasn't that well formed when ziggy got in there.

[JeanP!]

So the only original housemates are Sam&Amanda, Tracey and Carole

[Abraxas]

What does all this mean? So what if they were in first. The boys have been in there long enough now to be part of the group. Amy, kara and jonty haven't.

[joniebee]

Liam again has shown himself to be a cocky so and so,When he first entered the house he was overwhelmed and hardly said a word,And then if you remember when David came he tore him to bits,Saying to Ziggy,"who the hell does David think he is,Like,Getting al cosy and strutting about",More like who the hell does Liam think he is,Liams tactic is to be a walkover IMO,On the outside he would have blown his cool many times,Take Carole for example,Hes terrified of even looking at her the wrong way,And as soon as he thinks hes in her bad books hes brown nosing her,Pathetic.

[Abraxas]

I think liam was right about david. I didn't like him either, probably why he got put up and voted out.

[Rory]

Originally posted by Abraxas
What does all this mean? So what if they were in first. The boys have been in there long enough now to be part of the group. Amy, kara and jonty haven't.

You're missing the point of it.

The boys have all been newbies and they've gotten so conceited that they can't remember how hard it was to try to fit into a group.

[Abraxas]

The boys have all been newbies and they've gotten so conceited that they can't remember how hard it was to try to fit into a group. [/quote]

No I haven't. It's the way it always works, you can't expect the new people to be treated the same. Like you say, it wasn't easy for ziggy or the others when they first went in. Why should it be any different for Jonty, amy and kara?

[sl3ptsolong]

they came in a week after it started i dont think that constitutes newbies to be honest. after a week bonds wont be very strong its not the same at all

[Dan_]

I don't get what more people expect of them, they've been fairly welcoming of the newbies but of course the bond is not there with them and they are a tight knit group now, so it's hard for anyone else to come in and be part of that.

[Stu]

You can say everyone was a newbie at one point. But their not now. Thats the point.