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Old 14-08-2007, 11:11 PM #1
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ok first off i no alot will find this offensive so i will say sorry now !!! with all the child murders and sickos in britian would you agree with forenic evidence we have today it should be brought back yes or no .
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That is all.
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That I'm saying
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i have deleted all please forgive
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No, that's so cruel, every person deserves to live
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What was wrong with the thread?
It was a simple question. There was nothing offensive about it.
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i thought people were finding it an offensive thread so i stopped it , but thank you chrizzle .
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What was wrong with the thread?
It was a simple question. There was nothing offensive about it.
I agree. Nothing offensive and a good debate and discussion. If people are offended, they know what it's about so don't look into the topic.
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thank you do you want me to re-do it so we can carry on or leave it
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sarahtheangel I think this would have been a good discussion point. It was a legitimate thread that you shouldn't have had to change.
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ok i will re-do it matt thanks .
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Hmm I have mixed feelings about this, so many people were put to death only to be found not guilty many years later. I dont like the thought of being responsible for making the decision to put someone to death. Each of us could be called for jury service in our lifetime and if the death penalty were available would you want to be one of the people making that decision, I know I wouldnt!!

I see where you come from Sarah with the amount of sick people we have in this world but surely to restrict their liberty forever and a day has more impact than putting them to death. Take away priveliges etc..

I dont know I think I am a fence sitter on this issue.
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We have the same debate in France, obviously we are against but I still think it could work only and only if the person deserved this and only if it's a national crime. But our new french President Nicolas Sarkozy didn't tell anything about it and it's not his priority. Acutally he's in holidays with Bush.
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I too have mixed feelings on this, and have came to a conclusion. If we bring back "capital punishment" as such, then we need to have strict guidelines surrounding it. The punishment should depend on many factors such as 'strength of evidence', 'aggression/violence of crime' and 'likelihood to re-comitt' as well as taking into account Psychological reasoning.

I think if the conditions are that there is very strong evidence/a confession, a very violent crime, and under Psychological analysis are likely to re-comitt then I see capital punishment as something that could be used in this instance.

However, people saying this is a good way to ease prison crowding - so would getting rid of luxuries, sticking the prison in a remote place, and providing them with the bare minimum to survive - this will discourage future offences, suddenly prison doesn't seem such a viable option, will also prevent early releases and re-offences, cheaper to run, and there won't be overcrowding.
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i dont think britan should bring back the death penelty!evryone should have the right to live no matter what theyve done!
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I say no for a few reasons. Mistakes happen. Look at country's that do have the death penalty. Do they have less murders? And as for the re-offending issue, if the crime was serious enough to consider taking their life would they ever be released?
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Short Answer : No.

Theirs really no need anyway. Keep em' in prison , and they may rehabilitate - it does happen people.
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my answer is also no soz but i agree with the others but its that government that needs to wake up and stop drinking blooming tea and coffee all day and make this country a better place to live
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You don't need to apologise for it being offensive - it's a topic of discussion, and this is a forum. Plus, this particular topic has been discussed in the past:

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...d=52361&page=3
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An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, etc blah blah blah.....
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No

Prisons should be places of incarceration in the severest terms, it should be a punishment not a holiday

and a life sentence should mean a life sentence.

One innocent person wrongfully executed is not worth the price of it.

You can say we have amazing forensics and DNA tests etc etc, but we also have human beings, and human beings lie, for a number of reasons - to cover up incompetence, to frame somebody, there have been miscarriages of justice in recent times involving what would be capital cases where the convictions are now being questioned.

Add to that we know the prosecution teams don't always hand over all they should - they get the conviction - looks good on a CV, and years, often many years later the convicted eventually gets his conviction overturned.

Its a bit pointless overturning a conviction when you have executed the innocent.

As far as I am concerned, a supporter of capital punishment when an innocent is executed is an accessory to murder.

Capital punishment is state murder, if you support it what is the difference between you and the murderers ?.



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I think that no matter how bad or sick or unforgivable your crime is, you don't deserve to die. We have no rights to decide if anyone dies or not. You can lock them up, but I feel that killing them is not fair.
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i dont think britan should bring back the death penelty!evryone should have the right to live no matter what theyve done!
The victims also have a rigt to live but are not given that chance. We spend a fortune keeping cold blooded killers in jail for years while at the same time refuse expensive drugs for some of the sick in many cases sentencing them to a premature death. With finite recources which is more important. Cold blooded killers or sick people....

I agree with the concerns that others have that the inoccent could get the death penalty by mistake. that is my only reservation about bringing it back. Deadly crimes have become so brutal. so random and so cold blooded that it is clear the goody goody approach is not working.
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