[dupin]

Don't get me wrong, Rhydian is clearly the most talented of the remaining acts. BUT, if he wins, I can't see a direction for the producers, or Simon, or whoever to take with him...

Leona was so versitile and modern that it was easy for her to slip into current music ; she also had a voice that was easy to write modern songs for - "Bleeding Love" is a great, and very popular song, as we know.

However, what kind of songs is a song writer going to give Rhydian? He won't be able to sing any songs that fit into current popular music trends without sounding cheesy ; imagine a ballad written for him, it'd be awful. The other idea would be to take the opera route, and realize opera music, but with that, he'd lose a lot of his support which doesn't like this.

Rhydian is a performer, and is amazing at taking songs and making them his own. But I think a huge amount of people will be disappointed if he releases covers filled with albums, and again, he won't be successful.

I really think that he belongs in the theatre, in proper high-class stuff, but I don't think he should be a recording artist in the way the winner of The X Factor should be. I can't see it working, and I don't think he'll be successful at all. To be honest, the only remaining act I see fitting in, and selling records, is Hope, or at a stretch, Leon, but the latter is lacking the talent, and the former is apparently lacking the sheer popularity.

[Jackie]

He mainly suits opera songs and they dont often go into charts,so they are not big sellers as a girl/boy band does.

[Shaun]

Agree completely

[Tom]

Hope, Leon, Alisha and Kimberley are the only contestants out of the whole final 12 that could actually get a half decent mainstream career but have been made a fool of at points in the competition.

[XxShortyxX]

Well I want him, Niki, Bev, Hope or Same Difference to win, I really wouldn't mind out of them. The only I don't want to win is Loen, because I can't stand him and he is rubbish.

Last Year I wanted Leona to win from day 1. This year my fav keep changing lol.

[Arneldo]

The only acts I could see selling records are Leon & Same Difference. Hope would be another one hit wonder, Rhydian could do well in albums but not singles. Niki & Beverley would not be able to compete in today's charts I dont think.

[XxShortyxX]

Originally posted by Arneldo
The only acts I could see selling records are Leon & Same Difference. Hope would be another one hit wonder, Rhydian could do well in albums but not singles. Niki & Beverley would not be able to compete in today's charts I dont think.

Same Difference as much as I luv them, they wouldn't do well in the charts. They should go in panto or something like that, they have the personality Factor, but not the whole X Factor to go on and sell records.

Hope (IMO) will defo get a recording contract. Bev, Niki, not sure about them, who knows, Rowetta brought out an Ablum and she was their age.

Rydian, (IMO) he will sell records, he might not get numbers, but will be in the charts.

As for Leon, I can.t see him being big either. He ent no Leona or Shayne. Unlike them, he doesn't have the X Factor, really none of them do, this years has been a disapoitment, and I can't see the winner getting Xmas Number either.

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by Arneldo
The only acts I could see selling records are Leon & Same Difference. Hope would be another one hit wonder, Rhydian could do well in albums but not singles. Niki & Beverley would not be able to compete in today's charts I dont think.

I don't know I think Hope will do okay. Girls Aloud are getting bored and want to get on with there lives and the Spice Girls are all but finished. So there will soon be a hole in the girl band market they could fill.

As for Rhydian, I have to agree he really shouldn't win the x factor for the reasons stated at the start of the thread.

[Z]

That post summarises everything I think. Thanks!

[andybigbro]

He Shouldnt win as he wont sell records

Leon and Hope will

[KKBL]

i totaly agree with Dupin

[Redmond]

Don't agree whatsoever, just look at all the views his performances get on YouTube there is a huge interest in Rhydian and many people who like his style. He would sell records no matter what. Opera is still popular just look at the likes of Katherine Jenkins or Russell Watson. Plus Rhydian has something extra, he's got great stage presence, so I can imagine him selling records and selling out shows.

I'd go so far as to bet money on Rhydian selling records and lots of them. He's the reason the majority of people are watching this show!

[Red Moon]

He is very good and very different but i can see people getting bored with him once the novelty wears off.

It's like being a kid and getting that must have toy because it so good and different from any thing before you must have it but finding a few weeks down the line it in the bottom of the toy box and never sees the light of day again. I got toys like that at Christmas and then regretted it for the rest of the year.

I can see the same thing happening to him. He produces a hit that everyone thinks is great and then he disappears to the bottom of the toy box which is the pop charts. Eventually we will all wonder how he managed to win the x factor.

[Tom4784]

I think he'll have a Josh Groban appeal as he performs modern and classical very well.

[Wasted]

G4 have the best sales of any X Factor act to date I think, and they did opera.

Of course Rhydian isn't going to suit modern music and I totally agree with your post, but he still has potential to sell many records. But then again, we have had G4 and Paul Potts, being yet another opera act on a reality show may affect Rhydian since we've seen it on these shows before.

He's my favourite but I admit, I wouldn't buy his CD. I wouldn't buy any of their CDs really (except maybe Alisha, her voice sounds great and appeals to my tastes more than the other acts, but I doubt she will have an album out), I wouldn't pay to see any of them live, so I'm basing my choice of favourite purely on performances and talent as seen on the show, and not how I think they'll do afterwards (for the record, I don't see any of them doing well as recording artists, but best of luck to any of them who do get that chance!).

[Loukas]

rhydian will sell records but not as much as hope and leon will

rhydian will fade away i think after like 2 months

[dupin]

Don't agree whatsoever, just look at all the views his performances get on YouTube there is a huge interest in Rhydian and many people who like his style. He would sell records no matter what. Opera is still popular just look at the likes of Katherine Jenkins or Russell Watson. Plus Rhydian has something extra, he's got great stage presence, so I can imagine him selling records and selling out shows.

I don't think the average veiwer or voter of The X Factor listens to Katherine Jenkins ; Rhydian is entertaining to watch, but can stage prescence really come across when listening to a CD?

Regarding G4 ; as that was the first series, the whole concept was new, so releasing three cover albums, as they did, wasn't something particularly common or related to reality show contestants. After four series, people are now expecting more, and cover albums are a disappointment.

I think G4 had one original song on their three albums, and it was really crap. (My sister used to be a big G4 fan, though she wasn't by their third album, so I can't comment on that)

[Dan_]

I really don't think this year is going to produce anyone that's going to have a big impact on the charts.

Hope are the most marketable act but they just don't seem to have the public support to stay out of the bottom 2 already, so is there really going to be enough people actually going out and buying their material to get them anywhere in the charts?

Leon is a difficult one to judge, he seems to be pretty popular but I'm wondering what route they would take him down? Do we really need another singer like him?

Beverley and Niki have good voices but just aren't marketable in this day and age and would probably just end up being like Steve Brookstein and fade away after an album of covers.

Same Difference are a novelty act, they would end up doing a whole load of cheesy songs that would most likely just appeal to the younger audience.There's plenty of acts around like them at Butlins and it's really nothing new.It would be hugely embarrassing having them as winners.

Rhydian could do well but not in the singles chart really, he'd be better suited to the stage in my view but there are quite a few Opera acts around that have success in the album charts.Some say this might not appeal to people watching X-Factor but I'd imagine those watching also watched Britain's Got Talent which was won by Paul Potts and he's gone on to have a number 1 album and is now starting to do well in America.

The point about original material for Rhydian is a good one, there's not too many Opera singers that really get too much original material so it would probably come down to taking different types of songs and putting his own slant on them but I do think given songs like Josh Groban, he'd be a success.I don't really understand how a ballad would be awful by Rhydian, you can easily make it work given the right arrangement.Take February song by Josh Groban as an example, that was an original song and if that had been given to Rhydian he'd have done a great job with it.

[Billy]

IMO they got rid of the two most marketable acts, in Alisha and Kim

[GiRTh]

I totally disagree with the OP. I agree with Redmond, Wasted and Dan_. Opera singers like Andrea Bocelli, Russell Watson and Katherine Jenkins sell millions. Opera, easy listening or whatever you want to call it is a HUGE market. Rhydian may never get a number one single, win a BRIT award, be played on Radio one or be loved by the NME but he definitely WILL sell records.

[CassetteFinger]

Rhydian should win he can sell millions i think anyway. I wouldent mind same difference winning either.

[Tom]

Originally posted by GiRTh
I totally disagree with the OP. I agree with Redmond, Wasted and Dan_. Opera singers like Andrea Bocelli, Russell Watson and Katherine Jenkins sell millions. Opera, easy listening or whatever you want to call it is a HUGE market. Rhydian may never get a number one single, win a BRIT award, be played on Radio one or be loved by the NME but he definitely WILL sell records.

But they want someone who can become a global superstar, winning awards etc not just selling records. There is no doubt about it that Rhydian will get a deal if he wins or not, and he will sell but he will never be a big artist or "up there" with the best. In the operatic world he will be up there with the best, but not in the mainstream market and they want someone for the mainstream market.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Tom_

But they want someone who can become a global superstar, winning awards etc not just selling records. There is no doubt about it that Rhydian will get a deal if he wins or not, and he will sell but he will never be a big artist or "up there" with the best. In the operatic world he will be up there with the best, but not in the mainstream market and they want someone for the mainstream market.

I don't agree. THe show is called X factor not Pop Idol. If we were talking about Pop Idol I'd agree that the judges want someone to apeal to a mainstream audience. If they don't want someone like Rhydian to win then they should have never let him through at the auditions. In the end the public decide who wins so if what you're saying is true then the judges are stuffed.

[Tom]

I agree with what you are saying but think about it. Rhydian was put through on the fact he can sing more than just opera. Remember the other 2 opera singers which featured heavily? Andrea and Paris? They both got knocked out at bootcamp but they were outstanding singers and could go far, the only difference is Rhydian proved he wasn't a one trick pony.

[GiRTh]

That may be true. I didn't watch the Bootcamp.